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War and RacismView MessagesHaile Selassie/Bob Marley “Until the philosophy which holds one race Superior and another inferior Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned Everywhere is war, me say war That until there is no longer first class And second class citizens of any nation Until the colour of a man's skin Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes Me say war That until the basic human rights are equally Guaranteed to all, without regard to race Dis a war That until that day The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship Rule of international morality Will remain in but a fleeting illusion To be pursued, but never attained Now everywhere is war, war And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes That hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique, South Africa sub-human bondage Have been toppled, utterly destroyed Well, everywhere is war, me say war War in the east, war in the west War up north, war down south War, war, rumours of war And until that day, the African continent Will not know peace, we Africans will fight We find it necessary and we know we shall win As we are confident in the victory Of good over evil, good over evil, good over evil Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil” 2:04:02 PM 10/29/02 “Bob Marley is such an a$$ kicker!” 2:25:44 PM 10/29/02 “Good'n Ped!” 2:27:18 PM 10/29/02 “Serious tune!” 2:28:14 PM 10/29/02 “That is good vibe for all the people in the world! 8)” 4:53:52 PM 10/29/02 “OHMAGAWD! Marley was Jihad Talibanese?!” 5:04:59 PM 10/29/02 “LOL @ Gojo!” 5:18:12 PM 10/29/02 “"And until that day, the African continent Will not know peace, we Africans will fight We find it necessary and we know we shall win As we are confident in the victory" Okay, now that the Africans have their countries back, do you think they have stopped killing each other. Reference: Congo, Rwanada, Uganda, Ivory Coast, Nigeria etc,” 7:36:29 PM 10/29/02 “"People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character." --Ralph Waldo Emerson” 8:31:31 PM 10/29/02 “Poets, Preachers and Politicians - they've all had there say and now we've got 10,000 years devoted to nothing, but tomorrow and yesterday 10,000 years.... - Live” 8:43:36 PM 10/29/02 “the time has come, the song is over, thought i'd something more to say -Time” 8:51:16 PM 10/29/02 Speaking of War.. “SP4 Jones was assigned to the induction center,where he advised new recruits about their government benefits, especially their GI insurance. It wasn't long before Captain Smith noticed that SP4 Jones had almost a 100% record for insurance sales, which had never happened before. Rather than ask about this, the Captain stood in the back of the room and listened to Jones's sales pitch. Jones explained the basics of the GI Insurance to the new recruits, and then said: "If you have GI Insurance and go into battle and are killed, the government has to pay $200,000 to your beneficiaries. If you don't have GI insurance, and you go into battle and get killed, the government only has to pay a maximum of $6000." "Now," he concluded, "which bunch do you think they are going to send into battle first?" Too Funny! Probably true!!!” 6:06:59 AM 10/30/02 “That's hallarious, Bug!” 6:08:52 AM 10/30/02 “LOL Bug! - an oldie, but goodie - and timely once again!” 7:33:33 AM 10/30/02 “"The Africans have their countries back." Not so fast! The foreign interests are still controlling those countries and its not for their natural beauty. This time its from the board room instead of the war room. Places like central Africa are important for strategic materials. If these materials were not important, no one would fight over them. Congo, for instance, has been a real hot spot for decades because of a material called Tantalum: "Chem, a gray, hard, rare, metallic element with a very high menting point, occurring in columbite and usually associated with niobium: used, because of its resistance to corrosion by most acids, for chemical, dental, and surgical instruments and apparatus and in electrolytic rectifiers and capacitors" This, from a 1968 dictionary. Tantalum has been ONE of the reasons that foreigners have used and abused THAT part of Africa for many years. Today it is hotter than ever. This stuff is in cell phones and other wireless communication apparatuses. Colonialism is alive and well. It is just dressed in native clothes now with none of the old pretense.......racism has gone out of fashion, don't you know. Instead of wasting lives and treasure on military domination as in the past, the capital interests simply buy the natives and get them to fight each other. Like it or not, we are all involved in the exploitation of people in these places. We share the benefits while the natives get buggered. They pay with their lives for our conveniences.” 7:58:52 AM 10/30/02 “I shouldn't poke fun at my deceased fellow Rastafarians... my >hack< bad.” 8:11:21 AM 10/30/02 BUG “When I signed up, I met SP4 Jones!!Darn right I bought the insurance! That is just to funny.” 9:20:43 AM 10/30/02 “Wow Tom, I'm impressed not only do you work in the library, but you know how to use it too! So tell me, what corporate interests were involved when the Hutus and Tutsis were wiping each other out?” 11:38:36 AM 10/30/02 “I don't know, savage, try some Belgian source. They were the ones who played those two ethnic groups against each other. There was a lot of trouble in the Katanga region around forty years ago. What ever material that was extracted from there was worth fighting over then and I reckon it still is now. Tantalum capacitors are excellent for vacuum tube stereo amplifiers. Audiophiles seem to like them. You think the Hutu and Tutsi fight for fun?” 11:57:30 AM 10/30/02 “People fight and kill for many reasons Tom.If you really look at the information on the war between the Hutu and Tutsi,The Hutu would cut off the legs of the taller Tutsi when they were killed.Seems odd to kill someone because they are taller BUT odder still to kill anyone.” 1:47:01 PM 10/30/02 “Read "King Leopolds's Ghost" to get an idea of what set the stage for conflicts like that.” 5:20:01 PM 10/30/02 “power baybe, power......... some people will stop at nothing to gain it. look at the democratic party......” 5:23:45 PM 10/30/02 “OK, stratdude, the Democrats are evil......so what else is new? And OF COURSE the Repubs are honest and lookin' out for the common people. Isn't that what your guru tells you.......or is it your dog?” 7:44:20 AM 10/31/02 you leave buckshot outta this! “my guru? dood, i average about 15 minutes a day being able to listen to limbaugh. see, i have a REAL job, in the REAL world. I'm not feeding at the public trough, dependant on the gubment for my livelyhood. I'm actually out there, PRODUCING something for the economy, rather than sucking at the teit of the taxpayers. i don't get paid to sit around and read tom dashle speaches all day. there are A BUNCH of other places i get my info from. i'm open minded, but not blind. i AM the common man, you are the elite. so who looks out for who? the dems have NEVER looked out for me on ANYTHING. they take from me & give to you. they look out for the people that are dependant on them....people like you.” 9:12:31 AM 10/31/02 “Excellent Stratdewd. I am also the common man. The guy who gets up every day and goes to work to pay ever increasing taxes to support society only to be told that everything in the world is my fault. Tribal war in Africa - my fault, car bomb in the Middle East - my fault, famine in Asia - my fault, drug war in South America - my fault, ozone hole - over Antarctica - my fault. The good news is that the common man is starting to wake up and throw off the shackles of the brain washing liberal machine.” 9:29:48 AM 10/31/02 “^5 savage!” 9:50:33 AM 10/31/02 “Hey, Tom has some good points. The people of Africa have been used by others in some of the most despicable ways. However he doesn’t have a very high opinion of the intelligence of those people. If Tom is correct, those people are pretty easy to control or manipulate. Does that make him a racist? (intelligence does not = education) Now about that sucking off the government thing. I work for a government agency now, but I also produce new wealth in that work. It just happens to be wealth that is owned by the government. Follow the money. Republicans get a higher percentage of their money from the “common” man, individual contributions (at least in Idaho). Liberalism is all about keeping people dependant on the government and the elite that run it. This it the method of maintaining power. – Give a man a fish and he will be back tomorrow to ask for another and will keep you in the position of fish giver, teach him to caught his own fish and you’ll have to get a real job.” 10:15:17 AM 10/31/02 “WOW! I'm an elite! Ha ha! I'm just another faceless bureaucrat.....a piece of the state education machine. mtngal- So I'm a racist? You go girl! I have no opinion of the intelligence of "those people". That was just a smidgen of why there is fighting going on in "former" colonies. "Those people" do seem to love to "get it on" in some pretty awful ways, but its not solely for the love of mayhem. savage- If you think all of those things are yo' fault(kinda like "no fault")....you should get help. "The liberal machine", huh? Yeah, OK, liberals are running everything......HooHoo! Talk to that liberal in the White House. "Ever increasing taxes"?!?!? Didn't Butch give you a nice tax-cut? Or was that only for his elite friends in business? stratdewd- Who is this that reads those Tom Daschle speeches all day? And, I'll bet you have a mullet! Come on, give us a little "Achy Breaky Heart"!” 10:34:47 AM 10/31/02 “Tom and stratdewd, I would like to go on a trip with you two. What an interesting and hot topic there would be around the fire. stratdewd, you only get to listen to Limbaugh for 15 mintues, man that is way to long....lol” 10:46:39 AM 10/31/02 Africa “TT Not all of us are involved in this exploitation. I don't buy diamonds or amplifier tubes. Yes, foreign corps are involved in many of the problems but then so are the Africans themselves...... like when they sold their own people into slavery. The evil whites stopped that years ago while Africans still enslave each other today. They are intelligent enough to figure it out. While we're talking about exploitation how about the demand for drugs here and the effect on poor peolpe elsewhere? Those commercials that got ridiculed here a while back are accurate. An entire family in Baltimore was terrorized and then murdered by firebomb last week by drug-businessmen.” 10:48:04 AM 10/31/02 “Tom, it was a question not a statement. Only you can answer it. As bad as some Africans have been, the same kind of war, mayhem, and down right evil has taken place in other places including Europe, Asia and even the USA. I think there is something wrong with some of the people in Africa but it has nothing to do with race.” 10:51:45 AM 10/31/02 “Tom: I didn't say I believed that those things were my fault, only that I, as an American, get blamed for them. As far as the tax cuts go, I would say that it was a good start.” 10:53:53 AM 10/31/02 “We share the benefits while the natives get buggered. They pay with their lives for our conveniences." Tom Terrific 07:58:52 AM 10/30/02 My newest bumper sticker reads "Live simply - so that others can simply live".” 11:11:41 AM 10/31/02 “Nice! I like that!” 11:13:51 AM 10/31/02 “ ">” 11:30:50 AM 10/31/02 Hellllllllllpppppppp!!! “Those meanies are gangin' up on me:( This is fun! Hi JO! Yeah, and it seems the press had more to say about the "sniper"(Johnny Moe-Hah-Med) than the family of 7 that was wiped out by that crack-dealin' mook in Baltimore. The bit about tanltlum was just one example of strategic materials that are at the heart of some conflicts......someone mentioned Congo(Rawanda/Burundi/Katanga). There are certainly bigger fish to fry than the "liberal brain-washing" that stratdewd and company have to fend off daily. Try some aluminum foil caps(I challenge you to actually find "tin foil"). stratdewd- Tell buttshot I'm sorry! I was thinking of "Son Of Sam".....his dog was giving him instructions....or so the story goes. Go hiking with stratdewd!!!! Yikes! He's too busy workin' all the time and not suckling on the teat on guvinmint.” 11:35:00 AM 10/31/02 “Which country we live in?” 11:43:41 AM 10/31/02 “La La Land” 11:48:56 AM 10/31/02 “Tom, Interesting that you should bring up the "sniper" case. Here is another example of the liberal media. Instead of calling him "sniper" why not call him "terrorist". That's what he is even if he isn't part of Al Queda. Don't you find it odd that terrorists are now called militants or nationalists. Example, "Chechan militants are holding hostages in a Moscow theater". Why do you suppose that is?” 11:59:09 AM 10/31/02 Awash at the Teet “Savage Huh?! What with the semantics lesson? They were snipers and yes, they were also terrorists. So what? I'm sure the gov't would rather that they were called snipers so as not to freak out people more than they were. So what's with this gov't teet crap? Everybody can't be an independent self employed economic boot strap pullin' hero. I earn every drop of mother's milk I suckle off the great teet.” 1:49:48 PM 10/31/02 “"l-l-l-liberal media"??? YOU mooks have been brainwashed! Is that what the propaganda boys are saying now? And let's not forget to blame this crime on liberals in general. "If it weren't for liberals, the criminals would be afraid of the law and we wouldn't have any crime." "Dittos!"” 1:58:59 PM 10/31/02 “the media imagined the sniper to be an angry white male, probably from the military and in the militia and an avid rush limbaugh fan. when they caught the bad guy, they quickly shifted the focus and said.....DID THE MILITARY MAKE HIM THIS WAY? and they made very little mention of the muslem connection. world war 3 has already started my friends. you are hated and targeted to be killed. america is fat, dumb, and happy......thank you liberals.... tom, all you can do is insult my haircut and my guitar playing and compare me to a serial killer? that's all you got? when it comes down to logic, reasoning, rational thought, your arguments are pathetically weak & beniegn. you only offer up the politics of divide and conquer, class envy, and scare tactics, none of which can be rationally defended. your best defence is to try to discredit me with lies and inuendo. the prosecution rests, your honor” 12:59:32 AM 11/01/02 “So you really do have a mullet? Cool!” 10:23:56 AM 11/01/02 “kill'em all and let Shakira sort them out” 10:33:54 AM 11/01/02 “1960's - Birmingham AL Innocent children are murdered by firebomb planted by racist in church. 2002 - Baltimore MD Innocent children, mother and father are murdered by firebomb planted by drug dealers. How many times have you heard about the Birmingham incident? We should never forget it. How likely is this to happen again? How many of you have even heard about the Baltimore incident? A month from now? How likely is this incident to happen again. .” 11:38:46 AM 11/01/02 GEESH! “look at phils photo page violin you dork, i have the same haircut as in that...” 3:33:51 PM 11/01/02 “Dude... posting Bob lyrics is my job! Feel Dem Spirit!” 3:45:15 PM 11/01/02 “JO - The 60's incident was sensational - worthy of national news. The event of 2002, et al, are everyday commonplace. ...just another day in Jesseville.” 3:54:20 PM 11/01/02 Oh yeah - strat's mullet: “ ![]() 4:00:47 PM 11/01/02 “Sweet Mullet!! FEAR THE MULLET!!” 4:15:19 PM 11/01/02
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