My Winter Pack Weight

“Im down to 13& 1/2 lbs. With all winter gear! But this wont do me much right know but on my come back it will feel great. All I need is a new pack and Im set.”

“I can go down to below zero and carry 5 days food, 5 quarts water at 48#”

“So what's fer sale??”

“go to sale thread”

“Can we see your winter pack list with weights noted? I can get to 13 1/2 pounds with my clothing, sleeping bag, thermarest, tent, stove, pot and fuel. But I also have first aid kit, stuff sacs, nalgene, waterbag, filter, rope, lights, and a few other little things, and my pack itself. Then there is food and water.”

“LyndyS, notice he doesn't tell you how much weight his wife is carrying. Guess Opie taught him how to have the woman carry everything...lol”

“wife dont pack in winter!”

“Oh good point! But Kym seems a bit too smart for that.”

“Fall and winter are the best times to pack!”

“im going all out!

no stove, no pans, dry foods (pp&j), tarp, I just need to find a bag that weighs lke a 1 1/2lb to lower my pack weight to 12lb everything!”

“No hot water in the winter?

Doooooood....”

“Prowler, no stove, no pot? Are you only going on an overnight? Is your idea of winter the temp at which water freezes? That can be dangerous, IMHO.”

“He's joined the Finnish Infantry.”

“This is where I need to be if Im going to continue backpacking! Sacrifices will be rewarded will trails!”

“I rather be able to hike than have a warm drink! plus I can borrow your stove!lol”

“get Stikmon to pull you & your gear along the trails”

“Pack Weight sorry 14lb.

14oz gust
3.4oz socks xtra
7.3oz Capilene Pants
1.9 Wool Gloves
12.7 R2 Fleece
2oz Rope
8.9 First Aid
2.8oz Fleece
2.5 oz head lamp
8.5 Rain Pants
17oz Rain Jacket
55.6 Sleeping bag
15.3 Z-rest
17.7 Trap Tent
46.8 Food for a three day two night
?water one liter!

There you go!”

“Good point. I can usually find a melt stream somewhere but there have been times where I couldn't.

Hope you like drinking snowcones.”

“"Pack Weight sorry 14lb.

14oz gust
3.4oz socks xtra
7.3oz Capilene Pants
1.9 Wool Gloves
12.7 R2 Fleece
polartec power stretch is as warm less bulky and weighs less

2oz Rope
8.9 First Aid
2.8oz Fleece
2.5 oz head lamp-use photon on cap
8.5 Rain Pants Frogg Toggs 15 oz forJacket and pants

Rain Jacket 17 oz
55.6 Sleeping bag
15.3 Z-rest trim a bit in both directions
17.7 Trap Tent Plain sil tarp is 12 oz
46.8 Food for a three day two night
?water one liter!

There you go!"

For a stove take a scout esbit 1.5 oz and a ti cup 1 oz and foil screen .5 oz”

“Frogg Toggs SUCK (last weeks, have them)
Head Lamp-winter I where a beeny
Plain sil tarp (+6 stakes and 2 guide lines)”

“How bout a map? Compass? Matches? Toilet Paper? Spoon? Water purification? Bandanna? Tent Stakes? Tampons? Make-up?”

“My first winter backpacking trip my pack weighed closer to 60 lbs. I had enough fuel for a week and didn't believe it would be so easy to melt snow for water so I carried too much of that. I had enough clothing for three people. My pack is much lighter now but 14 lbs? Not in my lifetime.”

“bbinkley's winter pack weight:

89#

sleeping bag - 2#
9,000 cu.i. pack - 5 #
sleeping bag liner - .5#
hennesy hammock - 2.5#
headlamp - 1#
fleece pullover - 1#
fleece pants - 1#
gortex mountain jacket - 3#
gortex pants - 2#
first aide kit - .5#
stove - .5#
cookware - 1#
igloo tag-a-long cooler - 6#
case of miller lite bottles - 25#
2 packs Johnsonville brats - 6#
parkay squeeze butter - 1#
jar grey poupon mustard - 2#
side of bacon - 8#
spices - 5#
2 boxes, eggos - 2#
i bottle aunt jamima syrup - 2#
sack of potatoes - 5#
5 totinos pizzas - 3#
ice - 3#


He's ready dudes!”

“Is this your way of bringing up a health problem prowler?”

“Who's winter are you people hiking in? Not Maine's!”

“Am I the only person who needs 2 sleeping pads so I don't feel the freezing snow under my tent?”

“bacpac thats in my first aid weight, compass on watch.”

“According to my Excel spreadsheet, for winter hiking I...
-carry a 38# pack (including food & water)
-wear 8# of clothing while hiking
-wear 2# per foot of footwear (4# w/snowshoes)
And I agree with Mr.bacpac, some of the lists have serious deficiencies, imo.”

“No Buddur, I need two pads also and also lots more clothes to stay warm than what was listed on a few gear lists here. After looking at those lists I would have to say that I would just stay home if that's all I could bring because I'd just be too cold and uncomfortable to call it fun, at least for real winter backpacking.”

“Hey BB now that is some weight to a pack!!!!

I wounder how long it would take him to eat all that???

8)”

“I needed two pads (thermarest and ridgerest) so I got rid of them and got an exped down air mattress. Used it on my most recent trip. Its nice!”

“sounds nice pathman, I just checked it out.... the price is a lil' to steep right now, but it's on my wish list!”

“Buddur, its plenty, and not that I want to I have to!”

“sounds too little for comfort...I eat like a horse...I usually carry 10lbs of food..and how am i gonna carry the canoe ifn Im trying to stay at 14 lbs...no way! gotta bring the canoe. it has all the beer in it.”

“Winter packing? Canoes work pretty good as sleds.”

“stikmon, what about the 5 pounds of brownies?”

“What is the pack weight of the canoe?”

“I think that weight is becomming to much of a thing!!!!!

If I want it I am going to bring it!

8)”

“I put my stuff in a sled and drag it. My winter backpack weight is about 58 lbs. Not fun if I had to carry it while snowshoeing or x-country skiing.”

“I want to try the sled thing?So how do you make one?

8)”

“Yeah, I'm interested in the sled, too. What are you using?”

“Unless the brush or forest is too thick.

CMB, go to the library and get the librarian to help you find the Backpacker Magazine from 1998 or 1999 that has plans for a sled. The plans are good ones.


You need a heavy duty, childrens plastic tobaggan. String cord through the holes around the edge to distribute the tension. Attach a pole mechanism to the sled, attach to a belt or do what I do and attach it to your backpack. If you get industrious you can rivet cordura or whatever to the sled to make a cloth enclosure. Or, use a backpack or duffle and use bungies to fasten it in the sled.

AmyG had some good plans. Pennsy Hiker's design looked good too. He had pictures in that thread.”

“Pathman beat me to it...yep, AmyG and Pennsy Hiker talked about sleds last winter (or early spring this year). Surprisingly, all our sleds were similar in design; we all used cheapy kid's sleds (around $8.00). AmyG used ropes with plastic tubes over them to pull her sled...she said it was hard on the slanted traverse because the sled kept on tipping over (she later motified it).

Pennsy had a chain horizontally across the front of her sled...when she's going downhill and needs to stop...she releases the chain so it drops in front of the sled...which acts as a brake.

I use carabiners to attach my broom sticks to the sled...easier to load up in the car. The broomsticks doesn't twist, so my sled don't tip over. And I built a harness out of the sides of a 16" diameter plastic pail. No padding...don't really need it when wearing winter clothes.”

“Pictures? Do you have pictures of your sled?”

“Psycho- Can you elaborate about the exped down mattress? How was the blow up and deflate time?”

“And what the heck do you do with the stuff sack to inflate the thing?

My winter pack weight is about thirty-five, forty pounds. I use one sleeping pad, thermarest ultra light 3/4. That's all I have. (Note to self, add another pad to gear wish list).

My question for all of you is:

On an average winter trip, what's the temp? What's your cut off temperature for camping? If you know it's going to be 5* are you still going?”

“The blowup time for the mattress depends on how much air you take into the bag before folding it down to push the air into the mattress. It is usually between 12 - 15 bag fulls. Deflation takes little time. You just deflate it like you would a floating raft for swimming pools, lakes, etc. When deflated, you can fold it in half long ways and roll it up to put into stuffsack.
At the bottom of the stuff sack is where the hole is...you place that over one of the valves and it pretty much stays on while you push the air into it with the bag. I have used mine 11 times this year and I love it. It is my favorite piece of gear only because I know that I am going to have a comfy night's sleep no matter what. For me it was worth the price.”

“I have heard of the down air mats having valve problems from a few sources...cant confirm it tho, maybe just a whiner or too.

I tried one pad, a egg crate open-cell on top with a thin closed cell on the bottom, with so-so results, down to 35 it was warm enough but once temps passed below freezing the chill started to seep through. I decided to add a 1/2 inch closed cell pad for below 32 trips.

I am expecting my pack weight to be around 40 for a three day tour...a three day tour :P”

“You've mentioned This is where I need to be if Im going to continue backpacking! and its plenty, and not that I want to I have to! giving me/us the impression there is something amatter with you. Now that you've sparked interest, can you expand on your delema. Inquireing and sympathetic minds want to know?”

“budder i think hes refering to some sort of ailment hes faking... some back thingy or other.... personally i think he just trying to get kym to carry his weight...”