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Troll fantasy!
Okay, here goes:

Yesterday was Hallowe'en and the silly season at my small, rural high school; costume contests, etc. I had first period and my kids brought a movie in the hopes of doing a little, uh, dog lovin'. The movie was Shrek.

I thought it was funny, but then I got to thinking (seldom a good thing) about some of the recent and very serious posts on important topics of current affairs and decided to contribute to the discussion(s).

Now, Shrek and the princess fall in love during the rescue and the journey to wherever it is that she'll be married. This love cannot be allowed or even admitted because she's a princess and he's, well, he's an ogre. The obvious message here is that mixed marriages or even relationships are forbidden in the ideal world that is the cartoon version of fairy land.

IN FACT, Shrek and the princess finally DO get together when it is revealed that she is the victim of a spell that turns the princess into a troll (I mean ogre) during hours of darkness. IN FACT, she shamelessly 'degrades' herself into a troll (I mean ogre) to marry Shrek.

Now the implications of this are clear and the message it sends to young, white women is also crystal clear. Union outside one's race is tabu and a woman becomes the equivalent of a sub-human ogre when she does so.

Are you guys (and girls) following me on this? Maybe we should form an action group with 'ad hoc' commtittees (I've always wanted to say 'ad hoc' committee - there, I did it again).

I think we sensitive new age guys ought to fully support our multi-coloured sisters on this.

There, I said it and I'm glad.
gremlin
9:40:01 AM
11/01/02

You are a tease aren’t you. I don’t have boots tall enough to wade through that analysis of the movie. Maybe it was just about a ogre and a princess. I know you are just saying this for the fun of seeing the responses but why do people, some serious, try to read things into films, book, etc. that just aren’t there.
mtn gal
9:51:31 AM
11/01/02

Must be the result of too many turpentine enemas...
Father Goose
9:55:55 AM
11/01/02

Ogres are like onions...we have layers...

But gremlin, you've been peeling way too many onions...

Shrek was a great movie.
Shrek.
10:04:06 AM
11/01/02

Oh yeah?
What about the parody of Disney's 'It's a Samll World, After All'?

IS NOTHING SACRED?
gremlin
11:04:44 AM
11/01/02

FG
Turpentine enemas?

Tell me MORE! lol!!!
stumprider
11:15:54 AM
11/01/02

Interesting observations. I think Gremlin is onto something here. Don't let the metaphor wig you out Mtn Gal, <grin>.


(I think it's also another case of Life imitating TrailTalk)
Tilt
11:16:25 AM
11/01/02

I hope the Princess dies!!!







ive always had a mad crush on Shrek!!

he is so green. mmmmmmmmmm he reminds me of the new pirate at Disney

hahaha
mapleleaf
11:25:29 AM
11/01/02

Gee, I thought it had more to do with what's on the inside, not the outside. Guess I was wrong. Silly me.
treebait
11:29:43 AM
11/01/02

Miscegenation is all about what's on the outside, not the inside (I've always wanted to say 'miscegenation' in context - thanks for the opportunity).
Dr Pivo
11:31:32 AM
11/01/02

Ive always wanted to know what the hell "miscegenation" ment?
mapleleaf
11:36:21 AM
11/01/02

You don't want me to go get my dictionary, do you?

Surely someone will give us the definition without me having to get up off my lazy butt.
Dr Pivo
11:38:01 AM
11/01/02

Oh, all right.
Interracial marriage, cohabitation, etc....
Father Goose
1:03:28 PM
11/01/02

It didn't take a New York minute....
for Mapleleaf (what kind of name is that, anyway?) to make a reference to colour. I SUPPOSE it's a snide reference to the size of GREEN creatures' members. HUMPH!

BTW, 'm*mber' is a bad word up here in Canada. Saying 'M*mber of Parliament' is considered rude. We alsways say 'MP' except in Quebec where they are called 'Deputies' (cunning, those French) - except, of course for Jean Chrétien who is our Prime Member, er, PM.
gremlin
1:13:50 PM
11/01/02

The reference to Dineyland.....
gave you away, Mapleleaf. Shame on you.

Hey you, the kid in the back. Stop laughing - it's not funny. Oops, was that you, Artex? Sorry, man.
gremlin
1:18:59 PM
11/01/02

for Mapleleaf (what kind of name is that, anyway?



hay i got it from my Canadian mother!!!

it was a nickname she gave me when I was little. it started out as a CB handle.
mapleleaf
1:19:18 PM
11/01/02

If your mother had come from the eastern Mediterranean, you might have been named figleaf.
Geobeet
1:31:39 PM
11/01/02

I know, Mapleleaf, but...
Figleaf is way kewler.
gremlin
1:33:50 PM
11/01/02

You all need to be careful. When you make faces like that, you risk that your tongue will stay stuck in your cheek.
LyndyS
1:50:42 PM
11/01/02

Gremlin,
I don't know if your opening statement was meant in jest, but I think its right-on. Sad, but many of our children's fairy tales leave lasting impressions of right and wrong and wrong.
Limpy
1:51:22 PM
11/01/02

Just in from the CBC...
Canadian authorities are considering stopping all travelling ogres and sending them back to where they came from.

WHERE WILL IT ALL END?

I mean, I KNOW these people; I've seen them with their furs off AND IT'S NOT PRETTY!!!

Don't get me going, LindyS or I'll have to start a fairy tale thread.
gremlin
3:05:50 PM
11/01/02

Sorry,
I meant Limpy.
gremlin
3:08:47 PM
11/01/02

Green, white, princess, ogre...
they all look the same in a plane crash.
gojo
3:49:40 PM
11/01/02

Figleaf is way kewler



yes but they dont make them big enough for my.....


oh you know!
mapleleaf
3:52:26 PM
11/01/02

Uh, Maple,
I don't think I would'a told that. There's such a thing as
TOO MUCH INFORMATION!
Bug
8:25:49 AM
11/03/02

how big does a figleaf get...
and I've seen some derned BIG mapleleaves...

anyway...I think the powers of darkness have invaded Disney. We must, all, remain vigiliant and fight the dark forces wherever they rear their ugly heads. I for one am now in the process of practicing old spells and inventing new ones to protect myself and my loved ones, so that, should the Evil one appear, I will not be caught unprepared. you all should be doing the same.

You are either on the side of the light or on the side of the dark. I fear a great battle to be coming soon. do not make the wrong choice.
stikmon
3:04:32 PM
11/03/02

stik-y-mon
It seems pretty grey here.
stumprider
3:11:26 PM
11/03/02

stumprider...
stay true! It shall be a very tough battle, and only those that choose to fight will have any chance to win. those that stand on the sidelines, I;m afraid will be swept up and destroyed by the Dark Forces. The enemy is strong and his allies are numerous, but we stand in the light and are not hidden, we shall prove to be the stronger, in the end. Fear not...after the darkness...there shall be light!
stikmon
3:17:14 PM
11/03/02

I'm not touching this one...

It's like at the end of a movie...the bad guy alway loses. Well, in real life the bad guy wins alot of the time...the good guy loses.
stanlee
11:18:05 PM
11/03/02

stikmon
It's still REALLY, REALLY grey. Where is your light?
stumprider
11:43:19 PM
11/03/02

It's just a spoof of Disney's Beauty and the Beast where they both end up "beasts", not "beauties".

Glad I could help!

Did anyone every hear what Eisner thought about Shrek? I would love to know.
Phil
2:52:57 AM
11/04/02

I think Bro Stikky got a bad batch of kickapoo joy juice...
Father Goose
7:27:26 AM
11/04/02

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