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Meteor Showers coming!View MessagesViewing posts 101 to 148 of 148 messages posted.
Jump to Page << prev   | 1   | 2   |  3 | “I saw some! I saw some! I saw some! First time in my life! Those suckers can sure move. WOW. I watched from about 5:20 until 5:45. It seemed warmer there on the beach this morning with less of a breeze and 51 degrees. (Melbourne, FL)” 5:10:40 AM 11/19/02 BEAUTIFUL “Awesome! I stood outside in the cold (48*F) for 45 minutes. I didn't have to wait more than 20-25 seconds between asteroids. Some were so bright and lasted so long. There was one I thought was a plane!” 5:11:05 AM 11/19/02 “Anyone else notice Venus so bright it was distracting? Moon or no, it was very cool. Bundled up the bebe and away we went. It was neat watching the moon set. Laurel's been awake and very fussy all night because she's teething already. SHe just leaned against HPM and stared at the moon and stars the whole time. It was really nice. Down in the low 40's, too. Not bad for this part of Fl., especially near the beach.” 5:31:28 AM 11/19/02 “Yep. Venus was beautiful and so was the full moon over in the western sky. One real great morning. Boy, it's getting warm in here! Think I'll take off my new, blue belt. LOL” 5:36:19 AM 11/19/02 “Well the whole family got up at 4:45 and was outside on the deck benches by 5:05AM. We saw about 10 good ones and went back inside at 5:50AM. The moon was very bright for the first half hour. I was hoping that we would see a lot more, but the sky near me was so bright you could nighthike without a headlamp. There also was a slight haze, not really cloudy, because we could see a few stars and Venus, but it wasn't crisp looking.” 5:41:06 AM 11/19/02 “Sorry Stik if I stole your thunder...wish I had been where you were...your description took me there though. Thanks...hope you are still dreaming of your night.” 6:08:30 AM 11/19/02 The Busy Sky “Looks like Florida was watching! HPM and treebait - good luck with the teething! The sky was perfectly clear and the temp was around 50F. I Laid on the shore of a lake in my neighborhood and watched from 5:00 until 6:00. I live close to downtown Orlando so between streetlights, the city and the Moon I was worried that I might not see a thing - then about a minute later they started. They seemed to come in waves - with about 10 in rapid succession and then only a few in between. Very impressive and fun to watch. I can only imagine what this would have looked like away from the city. Joggers and walkers were strolling by wondering what I was doing. I wanted to tell them to look up, but I figured if they were interested they would already be doing so. Venus said "good morning" and I waved back as the sun started to fill the sky.” 6:08:45 AM 11/19/02 “.'Venus said "good morning" and I waved back as the sun started to fill the sky.' Big Coop Good 'trip report.' It looks like I'm not the only one to converse with the stars, etc. Sometimes I worry about myself.” 6:19:12 AM 11/19/02 “De wife and I were lying on our backs in the middle of our field by 4:45 am. 33 degrees and OVERCAST!!! SOme of the brighter stars poking through . . .but a real haze. We saw around 6 by 5:30 when we headed back in. Not like last years (becuase of the overcast)” 6:32:28 AM 11/19/02 “LOL at the blue belted nowslimmer, mornings are the bestest! Have a good day everyone!” 6:49:36 AM 11/19/02 “I got up at 4:30 and went outside to discover that it was raining here. I didn't see anything due to the cloud coverage.” 6:54:30 AM 11/19/02 “My wife and I got up every hour on the hour to look for them. The clouds never broke so we didn't see anything. :-(” 7:19:55 AM 11/19/02 dang fog “I had been weighting for this ever since last years show. And when they said it was going to have more activity I was even more excited then I realized that the moon was going to be a problem. So after spending the last month or so scouting a new position I would be ready. Then the cloud cover and rain in the forecast. But weight there is hope the weatherman is saying that the weather might clear early in the morning. So I got everything ready and headed out there was still cloud cover but a good wind was moving them out pretty fast. When I arrived at my chosen location at about 3:00am this morning the almost full moon was still overhead and not behind the pines but soon it would be and the before the expected 4:30 peek. All went as planned watching a great show until about 4:50 when the fog moved in and I couldn’t see the ground behind the truck. So I headed home to get ready for work all in all a good night but not as good as last year. P.S. did anyone else see the big one the exploded blue and left the lingering trail?” 7:43:48 AM 11/19/02 View from a lurker in Eastern North Carolina “This morning was a BIG success. Outside temp - 34 degrees, clear skies, moon low on western horizon. I woke up my wife and daughters (7 and 9 yo) around 4:45am. While they got dressed in their warm snugglies, I set up a queen size air mattress on the front lawn. With mom in the middle, and a kid on each side, they snuggled together under 5, count them, 5 blankets and watched the show. I sat in the lounging camp chair. The show was excellent, especially around 5:35 when they were zipping by one right after another, sometimes 2 or more simultaneously. Once, at least 5 went off at the same time, zipping off in every direction. The girls loved it, but I don't know what our neighbors thought about all the hootin' and a hollerin' :D Just before dawn, as the show was ebbing, I went inside and lit a firelog in the fireplace. The girls went from watching a space born light show to watching cartoons in front of a roaring fire and sipping on hot cocoa. They were in heaven. Jason, my 3 yo son, was in heaven, too. He loves a fire. Its a full time job keeping him from crawling (he has Downs Syndrome) right up to it. At 7 am, we started our normal routine and now the girls are in school. I hope they haven't fallen asleep yet :D” 8:33:49 AM 11/19/02 grunt was smokin the... “blunt!!! Hey grunt...nice to see you back...will you be going to TC2?...Im gonna be going right by Jackson on friday Dec 6.” 8:41:21 AM 11/19/02 “Nice to have you join us, hyway. Your girls are only slightly younger than my girls. But it sounds like you had a better view of the meteors than we did. The girls were really excited about the ones that they did see, though.” 8:48:31 AM 11/19/02 LyndyS “Thanks for the welcome. Where are you located? It was pretty bright here, so bright that I had no problem setting up the air bed, ground tarp, and all the blankets without a light. But the closer it got to dawn the lower the moon dropped, so by the time the peak hit around 5:30 it was much better. Is Venus the "star" hanging low on the Eastern horizon for the last couple days?” 8:53:57 AM 11/19/02 “I am in Northwest NJ and around 5AM Venus was pretty high but not completely overhead. Kind of southeast from overhead. My husband was asking me what direction to look, and I just shrugged. It turned out that they were all over the place. Some were west, some were east, some were south.” 8:57:55 AM 11/19/02 “Ok, I have it now. A very bright star. I told my daughters that Venus was a Satelite LOL. Yes, they were all over the place but they all were going away from the same focal point. A cool effect was when 2 or more burst forth straight overhead and spread out like fireworks. My girls absolutely loved it and swore that they would do the same with their children (or grand children) in the year 2033 when the next Leonid shower came around.” 9:10:40 AM 11/19/02 “I thought that they were not coming back until the year 2099?” 9:14:57 AM 11/19/02 “Got up and went out at 2:30 a.m. I saw about a dozen in under 10 minutes. It was cool. Went back in a back to bed.” 9:17:58 AM 11/19/02 “The next Leonid is 2033 is what I read. But I do remember reading that there won't be another meteor shower of the same magnitude for 100 years. Maybe that is what the 2099 date is. There will be another meteor shower this year on Dec 4th (or 14th) or sometime thereabouts, but it won't be nearly as good.” 9:22:47 AM 11/19/02 “Didn’t see any bolides, but it was still a pretty good show. Despite the fog on the lake and the hoze lit up by the moon it still seemed like a better-than-average shower. I can't help but think what it would've been like without the 'moon pollution'! I'm totally spoiled after last year's Leonids, but I'm slowly returning to normal (normal for Me, anyway, <G>). When it comes to chasing meteors, I like to keep Murphy's Law firmly in mind. So many things can screw up… it's kinda like backpacking! I almost Count on everything going to hell, then I can be 'pleasantly surprised' if it doesn't! Does that make any sense? It's been a looong night and I'm like 'running on fumes' ! LOL (and this is the Second Attempt for this post…. MicroSquish Exploder crashed just before I hit the 'submit' button, <GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR>. I'm composing this one in Word, dagnabbit!) YES, parent comet Temple-Tuttle returns about every 33 years. Leonids 'come around' every year, but only 'storm' after the comet comes by. Next up… the Geminids! (December 14-15, ~120/hr) Then… the Quadrantids! (January 3-4, ~60-200/hr). no 'storms' predicted, BUT… no problems with moonlight either!” 9:26:06 AM 11/19/02 “Geminids could be good for me, my last night in Fairbanks. Maybe I'll be lucky and get the Aurora and meteors at the same time.” 9:31:44 AM 11/19/02 “Thanks for the dates Tilt. i couldn't remember them. I did remember that the December one is on a moonless, Saturday night, making it much easier to camp in a nice dark place with my girls.” 9:32:41 AM 11/19/02 “Hello Hyway..nice to see a Carolina face! I'm in those mountains you feel drawn to.” 9:38:30 AM 11/19/02 “For Sure folks! Now, I must assume the prone position befor I lose consciousness, <grin>” 9:47:18 AM 11/19/02 “Hi crazygurl. Its a long way from here to there, hard to believe its still in the same State.” 9:59:07 AM 11/19/02 “From approximately 2:30 to 4:00 A.M. the viewing was beyond description. Even with the full moon the display was spectacular. Nothing captured with the digital, which has a maximum exposure of 16 seconds, but took several 15-20 minute exposures with the Nikon that I'm hoping caught something. Man what a morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” 10:02:14 AM 11/19/02 “There were thin clouds above us so it wasn't nearly as spectacular as last year's.” 2:12:07 PM 11/19/02 “disappointed....about 7 of us were at a buddies cabin way out in the middle of NOWHERE....maybe saw 30ish meteors. I was expecting a SHOWER..maybe 10 of the ones we saw where WOW'ers....not enough up in the sky to really justify me freezing to death with a cramped neck for 6.5 hours. Got some kewl pictures though...load them later” 8:02:56 AM 11/20/02 “we had 3 cams set up with 6 minute exposures..those turned out kewl..well only around 3-5 pics” 10:27:57 AM 11/20/02 “I don't understand why some people were out for hours or going out every hour to check. I thought that each region would see them for about an hour. Did I read something wrong, from one of the websites Tilt posted? I was out with my family for 45 minutes. We saw about 10 but it was light and hazy out.” 11:51:20 AM 11/20/02 “Well... the shower peaked twice, before dawn in Europe and the US, but there were meteors falling throughout the evening (after Leo rose) --- just not as many. And the Moon swallowed up a lot of them. If it hadn't been for the moonlight, there would've been lots more smaller ones to see during the off-peak hours. And earlier in the morning (1-2-3am), the Moon was higher in the sky and more of a problem. Usually I would've been out there as soon as the radiant in Leo came up (about midnight), but with the Moon so high in the sky I decided to wait until it got out of the way a little... 'til about 3 or 3:30. Just a little bit of moonlight can really mess things up, can't it! That thin layer of cloud or haze you wouldn't even know was there otherwise can be a real problem when the moonlight hits it. If you have completely clear conditions the moonlight be itself isn't as bad. Increasingly, though, one doesn't need the Moon to be there to light up the haze... light polution from improperly shielded fixtures can do that for you Every Night... my pet peeve around here isn't the streetlights so much as it is the Billboards Lit From Below... Did I just start off on another tangent again? LOL” 1:02:03 PM 11/20/02 You had to be there. 2:36:45 AM 11/22/02 Wow..................I MEAN WOW!!! “Beautiful, I MEAN BEAUTUFUL, picture!!!” 4:32:00 AM 11/22/02 “Cool photo! That looks amazingly like where I was at Clark's Hill Reservoir... complete with fog. How bright did that meteor have to be to show up in the photo next to the full moon?? (and thanks for bringing this back up so I didn't have to scrounge around for it, <G>) Here are some preliminary results: --------------------------------------- I M O S h o w e r C i r c u l a r --------------------------------------- LEONIDS 2002 Two strong activity peaks of the Leonid meteor shower were predicted. The times fell between 03:48 to 04:04 UT for the first one, and between 10:23 to 10:47 UT for the second peak, both on November 19, 2002. A first activity analysis from the reports of 86 observers, who logged 19443 Leonids, is given below. The ZHR refers to a stellar limiting magnitude of +6.5, a radiant elevation of 90 deg, and counts of single observers. A population index of r=2 was applied, although the inspection of data suggests a large abundance of faint meteors, thus a larger r. The ZHRs would increase likewise. The peak time of the first maximum is 04:10 UT with ZHR=2350. The second peak is found near 10:50 UT or a few minutes ear- lier with ZHR=2660. Both peaks occurred later than the pre- dictions by about the same time lapse. The predictions of the Leonid stream model of Vaubaillon (WGN 30:5, 2002) are closest to reality according to this first analysis.
Solar longitudes refer to equinox J2000.0, N is the number of observing periods involved in the average ZHR, LEO is the number of Leonid meteors. The error of the ZHR is simply ZHR/sqrt(LEO) here. No special zenith exponent was applied to account for non-geometrical effects in radiant elevation correction. We are very grateful to the enthusiastic community of meteor observers who have sent in their results, mostly through the online express form. All observers are encouraged to send their FULL DATA including magnitudes and possibly shorter time-bins for the counts within the next week. (An error in the online form script has lead to erroneous out- put in geographical latitude and radiant elevation; the actual results presented here are not affected though.) V. Krumov, M. Gyssens, R. Arlt 2002 November 22” 4:34:04 AM 11/22/02 “LEONID MULTI-INSTRUMENT AIRCRAFT CAMPAIGN Status of project as of Nov 23, 2002 ====================================== 1. 2002 LEONID MAC MISSION BEST YET The NASA and USAF sponsored 2002 Leonid MAC mission was a great success. Both aircraft were above clouds and under perfect conditions for viewing both of the 2002 Leonid storms enroute from Torrejon, Spain, to Offutt AFB near Omaha, Nebraska. All instruments worked as expected and aurora, moon, and meteors made the view scenic and truely spectacular at times. The Leonid meteor storms occurred much as predicted. European observers saw the peak at 04:09 UT (ZHR = 2,300/hr - with the absolute scale still rather uncertain), while observers in the America's witnessed a storm peaking at 10:50 UT (ZHR = 2,600/hr). Both peaks were narrow, with a full-width-at-half-maximum of only 0.52 and 0.50 hours, respectively. Both peaks were also rich in faint meteors. As a result, the near-full Moon and bad weather at prime observing sites made visual observations from the ground difficult. Preliminary results from 1-minute counts gathered by Morris Jones and seven other members of the flux measurement team on board NASA's DC-8 Airborne Laboratory during the 2002 Leonid MAC mission show a very precise flux profile. Preliminary results (with a 3-point average and given in 2-minute intervals) are presented in the Table below. These 2002 Leonid storm observations provide important new data for dust trail models. The dynamic models by Lyytinen et al. and Vaubaillon were only minutes off from the observed peak time. The fact that the flux profiles are narrow is very significant, because it demonstrates that the dust trails do not widen over time, as in the models by Lyytinen et al. (radiation pressure) and those by Asher & McNaught and Vaubaillon (a.o., from dynamic forces). In fact, the measured width is only slightly narrower than predicted by Jenniskens, who had 0.64 and 0.60 hrs, respectively. In addition, the strong showing in Europe confirms the small trail shifts noticed earlier. The most important result may have been the high abundance of faint meteors. While predicted in some models, the distribution of meteoroid sizes in the trails is still poorly understood, and the new observations will help put constraints on this variable. A high background of activity persisted between the two storm peaks. That background may reflect the 1833 dust trail encounter (Lyytinen's prediction put the encounter time at 06:36 UT), or it could be a manifestation of the Leonid Filament. Graphs of the results have been posted at our website: http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov Results of other scientific efforts will be posted as they become available. The flux measurement team consisted of Morris Jones, Chris Crawford, Jane Houston-Jones, Bob Lunsford, David Holman, Peter Gural, David Nugent, and Ruediger Jehn, the latter representing ESA. The data were analyzed by Peter Jenniskens, Morris Jones, David Holman, Chris Crawford, and Peter Gural. A further improvement of results is expected when the sky limiting magnitude and magnitude size distribution have been studied in more detail, and when also the FISTA video tapes (operated by Mike Koop) have been examined. Also, Jim Richardson and a team of observers gathered additional data from a ground site at Mount Lemmon Observatory in Tucson, Arizona. We thank the aircraft operators at NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, notably mission managers Bob Curry and Chris Jennison, and at the USAF 418th Flight Test Squadron, especially mission managers Don Bustillos and Jon Haser for their heroic efforts to make the 2002 Leonid MAC mission possible. Some 300 people took responsibility for bringing various aspects of the campaign together. Our host at Torrejon in Spain was Juan Perez-Mercader, the director of the Center for Astrobiology (CAB). Capt. Rafael Gomez-Blanco made the logistic arrangements. The mission was sponsored by NASA's Astrobiology Program (Mike Meyer), NASA's Planetary Astronomy program (John Hillman), and by NASA Ames Research Center (Greg Schmidt). Support was also received from the Center for Astrobiology and the European Space Agency. The participation of individual research teams was made possible by local institutes and organizations. The mission was executed as part of the Aerospace MOIE program (Ray Russell). I also thank Hal Roey, Brenda Simmons, Debbie Kolyer, Sue Lehr, Edna deVore, and Chris Chyba of the SETI Institute for their efforts on behalf of this final Leonid Multi-Instrument Aircraft Campaign. -Peter Jenniskens
...................................................................... Peter Jenniskens The SETI Institute 2035 Landings Drive NASA Mountain View, CA 94043 http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov http://aio.arc.nasa.gov/~leonid/” 6:26:01 AM 11/25/02 “I think my brain just exploded.” 7:29:24 AM 11/25/02 “I usually just get a fairly intense cramp, LOL Check the links... there are colorful graphs and photos, <GRIN>. The first column indicates time periods in decimal form of Universal Time coordinates (very close if not indentical to Greenwich Mean Time) "Sol Long" is shorthand for Solar Longitude, which is simply a more accurate way of indicating where the Earth is in its orbit. The third column contains The Goodies. ZHR = the Zenithal Hourly Rate, the estimate based on actual observations of what an average observer might witness if he happened to be in the right place at the right time... without any Moon or clouds to interfere. +/- ... margin of error So basically, all this serves to reinforce the perception that we REALLY would've seen a #&%!$load o' meteors if we hadn't had to deal with any clouds or that freakin' MOON, <G> ”8:17:47 AM 11/25/02 “Did anyone see the footage of the meteor that came down in Australia? WOW! That thing was HUGE! Lit up the whole sky, created a sonic boom and was beautiful. I couldn’t find a video link for it though but saw it on the news. They said it was between the size of a VW and a basketball. ”9:16:46 AM 12/04/05 “that's a big difference... a volkswagon and a basketball..” 9:18:56 AM 12/04/05 “Not if ya get hit by it! Haha!” 9:19:45 AM 12/04/05 “LOL” 9:29:58 AM 12/04/05 “Gosh, Scorch, steal my whole comment, on the size difference. (Explains a lot about men and "size" doesn't it? VW and a BB in the same size range? LMFAO!)” 9:41:15 AM 12/04/05 “Why are women such poor judges of distance? Because they've been told for so long that this (hold up thumb & forefinger) is 8 inches.” 1:56:48 PM 12/04/05 “"(Explains a lot about men and "size" doesn't it? VW and a BB in the same size range? LMFAO!)” And just who said it was a guy who estimated the size of the meteor? Hmmm?” 2:29:09 PM 12/04/05 “Typical Women assuming the Men must be watching/estimating these things, aye? Of course, Women have no place in Astronomy or Physics.” 2:38:24 PM 12/04/05
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