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I saw some! I saw some! I saw some!

First time in my life! Those suckers can sure move. WOW. I watched from about 5:20 until 5:45.

It seemed warmer there on the beach this morning with less of a breeze and 51 degrees. (Melbourne, FL)
nowslimmer
5:10:40 AM
11/19/02

BEAUTIFUL
Awesome! I stood outside in the cold (48*F) for 45 minutes. I didn't have to wait more than 20-25 seconds between asteroids. Some were so bright and lasted so long. There was one I thought was a plane!
tango
5:11:05 AM
11/19/02

Anyone else notice Venus so bright it was distracting?

Moon or no, it was very cool. Bundled up the bebe and away we went. It was neat watching the moon set. Laurel's been awake and very fussy all night because she's teething already. SHe just leaned against HPM and stared at the moon and stars the whole time. It was really nice. Down in the low 40's, too. Not bad for this part of Fl., especially near the beach.
treebait
5:31:28 AM
11/19/02

Yep. Venus was beautiful and so was the full moon over in the western sky. One real great morning.

Boy, it's getting warm in here! Think I'll take off my new, blue belt.
LOL
nowslimmer
5:36:19 AM
11/19/02

Well the whole family got up at 4:45 and was outside on the deck benches by 5:05AM. We saw about 10 good ones and went back inside at 5:50AM. The moon was very bright for the first half hour. I was hoping that we would see a lot more, but the sky near me was so bright you could nighthike without a headlamp. There also was a slight haze, not really cloudy, because we could see a few stars and Venus, but it wasn't crisp looking.
LyndyS
5:41:06 AM
11/19/02

Sorry Stik if I stole your thunder...wish I had been where you were...your description took me there though. Thanks...hope you are still dreaming of your night.
crazygurl
6:08:30 AM
11/19/02

The Busy Sky
Looks like Florida was watching!

HPM and treebait - good luck with the teething!

The sky was perfectly clear and the temp was around 50F. I Laid on the shore of a lake in my neighborhood and watched from 5:00 until 6:00. I live close to downtown Orlando so between streetlights, the city and the Moon I was worried that I might not see a thing - then about a minute later they started. They seemed to come in waves - with about 10 in rapid succession and then only a few in between. Very impressive and fun to watch. I can only imagine what this would have looked like away from the city.

Joggers and walkers were strolling by wondering what I was doing. I wanted to tell them to look up, but I figured if they were interested they would already be doing so.

Venus said "good morning" and I waved back as the sun started to fill the sky.
Big Coop
6:08:45 AM
11/19/02

.'Venus said "good morning" and I waved back as the sun started to fill the sky.'
Big Coop

Good 'trip report.'

It looks like I'm not the only one to converse with the stars, etc. Sometimes I worry about myself.
nowslimmer
6:19:12 AM
11/19/02

De wife and I were lying on our backs in the middle of our field by 4:45 am. 33 degrees and OVERCAST!!!

SOme of the brighter stars poking through . . .but a real haze. We saw around 6 by 5:30 when we headed back in.

Not like last years (becuase of the overcast)
lee
6:32:28 AM
11/19/02

LOL at the blue belted nowslimmer, mornings are the bestest!

Have a good day everyone!
LyndyS
6:49:36 AM
11/19/02

I got up at 4:30 and went outside to discover that it was raining here. I didn't see anything due to the cloud coverage.
Miss Opie
6:54:30 AM
11/19/02

My wife and I got up every hour on the hour to look for them. The clouds never broke so we didn't see anything. :-(
Indiana John
7:19:55 AM
11/19/02

dang fog
I had been weighting for this ever since last years show. And when they said it was going to have more activity I was even more excited then I realized that the moon was going to be a problem. So after spending the last month or so scouting a new position I would be ready. Then the cloud cover and rain in the forecast. But weight there is hope the weatherman is saying that the weather might clear early in the morning. So I got everything ready and headed out there was still cloud cover but a good wind was moving them out pretty fast. When I arrived at my chosen location at about 3:00am this morning the almost full moon was still overhead and not behind the pines but soon it would be and the before the expected 4:30 peek. All went as planned watching a great show until about 4:50 when the fog moved in and I couldn’t see the ground behind the truck. So I headed home to get ready for work all in all a good night but not as good as last year.
P.S. did anyone else see the big one the exploded blue and left the lingering trail?
grunt
7:43:48 AM
11/19/02

View from a lurker in Eastern North Carolina
This morning was a BIG success. Outside temp - 34 degrees, clear skies, moon low on western horizon. I woke up my wife and daughters (7 and 9 yo) around 4:45am. While they got dressed in their warm snugglies, I set up a queen size air mattress on the front lawn. With mom in the middle, and a kid on each side, they snuggled together under 5, count them, 5 blankets and watched the show. I sat in the lounging camp chair.

The show was excellent, especially around 5:35 when they were zipping by one right after another, sometimes 2 or more simultaneously. Once, at least 5 went off at the same time, zipping off in every direction. The girls loved it, but I don't know what our neighbors thought about all the hootin' and a hollerin' :D

Just before dawn, as the show was ebbing, I went inside and lit a firelog in the fireplace. The girls went from watching a space born light show to watching cartoons in front of a roaring fire and sipping on hot cocoa. They were in heaven. Jason, my 3 yo son, was in heaven, too. He loves a fire. Its a full time job keeping him from crawling (he has Downs Syndrome) right up to it.

At 7 am, we started our normal routine and now the girls are in school. I hope they haven't fallen asleep yet :D
hyway
8:33:49 AM
11/19/02

grunt was smokin the...
blunt!!!

Hey grunt...nice to see you back...will you be going to TC2?...Im gonna be going right by Jackson on friday Dec 6.
stikmon
8:41:21 AM
11/19/02

Nice to have you join us, hyway. Your girls are only slightly younger than my girls. But it sounds like you had a better view of the meteors than we did. The girls were really excited about the ones that they did see, though.
LyndyS
8:48:31 AM
11/19/02

LyndyS
Thanks for the welcome. Where are you located? It was pretty bright here, so bright that I had no problem setting up the air bed, ground tarp, and all the blankets without a light. But the closer it got to dawn the lower the moon dropped, so by the time the peak hit around 5:30 it was much better.

Is Venus the "star" hanging low on the Eastern horizon for the last couple days?
hyway
8:53:57 AM
11/19/02

I am in Northwest NJ and around 5AM Venus was pretty high but not completely overhead. Kind of southeast from overhead. My husband was asking me what direction to look, and I just shrugged. It turned out that they were all over the place. Some were west, some were east, some were south.
LyndyS
8:57:55 AM
11/19/02

Ok, I have it now. A very bright star. I told my daughters that Venus was a Satelite LOL. Yes, they were all over the place but they all were going away from the same focal point. A cool effect was when 2 or more burst forth straight overhead and spread out like fireworks.

My girls absolutely loved it and swore that they would do the same with their children (or grand children) in the year 2033 when the next Leonid shower came around.
hyway
9:10:40 AM
11/19/02

I thought that they were not coming back until the year 2099?
LyndyS
9:14:57 AM
11/19/02

Got up and went out at 2:30 a.m. I saw about a dozen in under 10 minutes. It was cool. Went back in a back to bed.
Phil
9:17:58 AM
11/19/02

The next Leonid is 2033 is what I read. But I do remember reading that there won't be another meteor shower of the same magnitude for 100 years. Maybe that is what the 2099 date is.

There will be another meteor shower this year on Dec 4th (or 14th) or sometime thereabouts, but it won't be nearly as good.
hyway
9:22:47 AM
11/19/02

Didn’t see any bolides, but it was still a pretty good show. Despite the fog on the lake and the hoze lit up by the moon it still seemed like a better-than-average shower. I can't help but think what it would've been like without the 'moon pollution'!

I'm totally spoiled after last year's Leonids, but I'm slowly returning to normal (normal for Me, anyway, <G>).

When it comes to chasing meteors, I like to keep Murphy's Law firmly in mind. So many things can screw up… it's kinda like backpacking! I almost Count on everything going to hell, then I can be 'pleasantly surprised' if it doesn't!

Does that make any sense? It's been a looong night and I'm like 'running on fumes' ! LOL

(and this is the Second Attempt for this post…. MicroSquish Exploder crashed just before I hit the 'submit' button, <GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR>. I'm composing this one in Word, dagnabbit!)


YES, parent comet Temple-Tuttle returns about every 33 years. Leonids 'come around' every year, but only 'storm' after the comet comes by.



Next up… the Geminids! (December 14-15, ~120/hr)

Then… the Quadrantids! (January 3-4, ~60-200/hr).


no 'storms' predicted, BUT… no problems with moonlight either!
Tilt
9:26:06 AM
11/19/02

Geminids could be good for me, my last night in Fairbanks. Maybe I'll be lucky and get the Aurora and meteors at the same time.
Pathman
9:31:44 AM
11/19/02

Thanks for the dates Tilt. i couldn't remember them. I did remember that the December one is on a moonless, Saturday night, making it much easier to camp in a nice dark place with my girls.
hyway
9:32:41 AM
11/19/02

Hello Hyway..nice to see a Carolina face! I'm in those mountains you feel drawn to.
crazygurl
9:38:30 AM
11/19/02

For Sure folks!

Now, I must assume the prone position befor I lose consciousness, <grin>
Tilt
9:47:18 AM
11/19/02

Hi crazygurl. Its a long way from here to there, hard to believe its still in the same State.
hyway
9:59:07 AM
11/19/02

From approximately 2:30 to 4:00 A.M. the viewing was beyond description. Even with the full moon the display was spectacular.

Nothing captured with the digital, which has a maximum exposure of 16 seconds, but took several 15-20 minute exposures with the Nikon that I'm hoping caught something.

Man what a morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geezr
10:02:14 AM
11/19/02

There were thin clouds above us so it wasn't nearly as spectacular as last year's.
Violin
2:12:07 PM
11/19/02

disappointed....about 7 of us were at a buddies cabin way out in the middle of NOWHERE....maybe saw 30ish meteors. I was expecting a SHOWER..maybe 10 of the ones we saw where WOW'ers....not enough up in the sky to really justify me freezing to death with a cramped neck for 6.5 hours. Got some kewl pictures though...load them later
OPIE
8:02:56 AM
11/20/02

we had 3 cams set up with 6 minute exposures..those turned out kewl..well only around 3-5 pics
OPIE
10:27:57 AM
11/20/02

I don't understand why some people were out for hours or going out every hour to check. I thought that each region would see them for about an hour. Did I read something wrong, from one of the websites Tilt posted? I was out with my family for 45 minutes. We saw about 10 but it was light and hazy out.
LyndyS
11:51:20 AM
11/20/02

Well... the shower peaked twice, before dawn in Europe and the US, but there were meteors falling throughout the evening (after Leo rose) --- just not as many. And the Moon swallowed up a lot of them.

If it hadn't been for the moonlight, there would've been lots more smaller ones to see during the off-peak hours.

And earlier in the morning (1-2-3am), the Moon was higher in the sky and more of a problem. Usually I would've been out there as soon as the radiant in Leo came up (about midnight), but with the Moon so high in the sky I decided to wait until it got out of the way a little... 'til about 3 or 3:30.

Just a little bit of moonlight can really mess things up, can't it! That thin layer of cloud or haze you wouldn't even know was there otherwise can be a real problem when the moonlight hits it. If you have completely clear conditions the moonlight be itself isn't as bad.

Increasingly, though, one doesn't need the Moon to be there to light up the haze... light polution from improperly shielded fixtures can do that for you Every Night... my pet peeve around here isn't the streetlights so much as it is the Billboards Lit From Below...

Did I just start off on another tangent again? LOL
Tilt
1:02:03 PM
11/20/02

You had to be there.

Wow..................I MEAN WOW!!!
Beautiful, I MEAN BEAUTUFUL, picture!!!
Buddur
4:32:00 AM
11/22/02

Cool photo! That looks amazingly like where I was at Clark's Hill Reservoir... complete with fog. How bright did that meteor have to be to show up in the photo next to the full moon??

(and thanks for bringing this back up so I didn't have to scrounge around for it, <G>)


Here are some preliminary results:

---------------------------------------
I M O S h o w e r C i r c u l a r
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LEONIDS 2002


Two strong activity peaks of the Leonid meteor shower were
predicted. The times fell between 03:48 to 04:04 UT for the
first one, and between 10:23 to 10:47 UT for the second peak,
both on November 19, 2002.

A first activity analysis from the reports of 86 observers,
who logged 19443 Leonids, is given below. The ZHR refers to
a stellar limiting magnitude of +6.5, a radiant elevation of
90 deg, and counts of single observers. A population index
of r=2 was applied, although the inspection of data suggests
a large abundance of faint meteors, thus a larger r. The
ZHRs would increase likewise.

The peak time of the first maximum is 04:10 UT with ZHR=2350.
The second peak is found near 10:50 UT or a few minutes ear-
lier with ZHR=2660. Both peaks occurred later than the pre-
dictions by about the same time lapse. The predictions of
the Leonid stream model of Vaubaillon (WGN 30:5, 2002) are
closest to reality according to this first analysis.


--------------------------------------
Nov UT Sollong N LEO ZHR +-
--------------------------------------
16 2000 234.257 2 10 19 6
17 0300 234.551 6 15 6 2
17 2200 235.349 13 96 37 4
18 0400 235.601 12 78 26 3
18 2000 236.273 21 431 98 5
18 2300 236.399 22 195 100 7
19 0000 236.441 26 330 101 6
19 0110 236.490 27 271 188 11
19 0140 236.511 24 218 201 14
19 0210 236.532 21 266 249 15
19 0220 236.539 20 332 305 17
19 0240 236.553 36 342 300 16
19 0255 236.564 16 157 275 22
19 0306 236.571 22 205 375 26
19 0316 236.578 28 329 497 27
19 0327 236.586 27 484 583 27
19 0335 236.591 48 1047 756 23
19 0343 236.597 20 412 930 46
19 0345 236.599 32 719 1162 43
19 0353 236.604 35 768 1344 49
19 0358 236.608 47 1341 1542 42
19 0402 236.610 36 1248 1966 56
19 0408 236.615 31 1335 2353 64
19 0413 236.618 17 912 2332 77
19 0418 236.622 30 1253 1995 57
19 0426 236.627 35 933 1367 45
19 0436 236.634 38 681 989 38
19 0447 236.642 24 416 635 31
19 0500 236.651 31 395 675 34
19 0518 236.664 50 505 1014 45
19 0535 236.676 22 189 572 42
19 0555 236.690 15 97 144 15
19 0620 236.707 15 87 142 15
19 0800 236.777 14 166 272 21
19 0905 236.823 21 217 307 21
19 0930 236.840 27 99 152 15
19 0947 236.852 21 72 267 32
19 1000 236.861 21 128 293 26
19 1010 236.868 31 192 707 51
19 1018 236.874 19 396 907 46
19 1023 236.877 15 134 965 83
19 1030 236.882 27 288 1364 80
19 1040 236.889 26 350 2108 112
19 1050 236.896 28 587 2656 110
19 1100 236.903 19 297 1061 62
19 1112 236.912 17 130 490 43
19 1135 236.928 7 184 366 27
19 2200 237.366 6 99 123 12
20 0500 237.660 11 4 10 5
---------------------------------------------


Solar longitudes refer to equinox J2000.0, N is the number
of observing periods involved in the average ZHR, LEO is the
number of Leonid meteors. The error of the ZHR is simply
ZHR/sqrt(LEO) here. No special zenith exponent was applied
to account for non-geometrical effects in radiant elevation
correction.

We are very grateful to the enthusiastic community of meteor
observers who have sent in their results, mostly through the
online express form. All observers are encouraged to send
their FULL DATA including magnitudes and possibly shorter
time-bins for the counts within the next week.

(An error in the online form script has lead to erroneous out-
put in geographical latitude and radiant elevation; the actual
results presented here are not affected though.)


V. Krumov, M. Gyssens, R. Arlt
2002 November 22
Tilt
4:34:04 AM
11/22/02

LEONID MULTI-INSTRUMENT AIRCRAFT CAMPAIGN

Status of project as of Nov 23, 2002
======================================

1. 2002 LEONID MAC MISSION BEST YET

The NASA and USAF sponsored 2002 Leonid MAC mission was a great success. Both aircraft were above clouds and under perfect conditions for viewing
both of the 2002 Leonid storms enroute from Torrejon, Spain, to Offutt AFB near Omaha, Nebraska. All instruments worked as expected and aurora, moon, and meteors made the view scenic and truely spectacular at times. The Leonid meteor storms occurred much as predicted. European observers saw the peak at 04:09 UT (ZHR = 2,300/hr - with the absolute scale still rather uncertain), while observers in the America's witnessed a storm peaking at 10:50 UT (ZHR = 2,600/hr). Both
peaks were narrow, with a full-width-at-half-maximum of only 0.52 and 0.50 hours, respectively. Both peaks were also rich in faint meteors. As a result, the near-full Moon and bad weather at prime observing sites made visual observations from the ground difficult. Preliminary results from
1-minute counts gathered by Morris Jones and seven other members of the flux measurement team on board NASA's DC-8 Airborne Laboratory during the 2002 Leonid MAC mission show a very precise flux profile. Preliminary results (with a 3-point average and given in 2-minute intervals) are presented in the Table below.

These 2002 Leonid storm observations provide important new data for dust trail models. The dynamic models by Lyytinen et al. and Vaubaillon were only minutes off from the observed peak time. The fact that the flux profiles are narrow is very significant, because it demonstrates that the
dust trails do not widen over time, as in the models by Lyytinen et al. (radiation pressure) and those by Asher & McNaught and Vaubaillon (a.o., from dynamic forces). In fact, the measured width is only slightly narrower than predicted by Jenniskens, who had 0.64 and 0.60 hrs, respectively. In addition, the strong showing in Europe confirms
the small trail shifts noticed earlier. The most important result
may have been the high abundance of faint meteors. While predicted in some models, the distribution of meteoroid sizes in the trails is still poorly understood, and the new observations will help put constraints on this variable.

A high background of activity persisted between the two storm peaks. That background may reflect the 1833 dust trail encounter (Lyytinen's prediction put the encounter time at 06:36 UT), or it could be a manifestation of the Leonid Filament.

Graphs of the results have been posted at our website:
http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov

Results of other scientific efforts will be posted as they become available.

The flux measurement team consisted of Morris Jones, Chris Crawford, Jane Houston-Jones, Bob Lunsford, David Holman, Peter Gural, David Nugent, and Ruediger Jehn, the latter representing ESA. The data were analyzed by Peter Jenniskens, Morris Jones, David Holman, Chris Crawford, and Peter Gural. A further improvement of results is expected when the sky limiting magnitude and magnitude
size distribution have been studied in more detail, and when also the FISTA video tapes (operated by Mike Koop) have been examined. Also, Jim Richardson and a team of observers gathered additional data from a ground site at Mount Lemmon Observatory in Tucson, Arizona.

We thank the aircraft operators at NASA Dryden Flight Research
Center, notably mission managers Bob Curry and Chris Jennison,
and at the USAF 418th Flight Test Squadron, especially mission
managers Don Bustillos and Jon Haser for their heroic efforts to
make the 2002 Leonid MAC mission possible. Some 300 people took
responsibility for bringing various aspects of the campaign together. Our host at Torrejon in Spain was Juan Perez-Mercader, the director of the Center for Astrobiology (CAB). Capt. Rafael Gomez-Blanco made the logistic arrangements. The mission was sponsored by NASA's Astrobiology Program (Mike Meyer), NASA's Planetary Astronomy program
(John Hillman), and by NASA Ames Research Center (Greg Schmidt).
Support was also received from the Center for Astrobiology and the
European Space Agency. The participation of individual research teams was made possible by local institutes and organizations. The mission
was executed as part of the Aerospace MOIE program (Ray Russell). I also thank Hal Roey, Brenda Simmons, Debbie Kolyer, Sue Lehr, Edna deVore, and Chris Chyba of the SETI Institute for their efforts on behalf of this final Leonid Multi-Instrument Aircraft Campaign.


-Peter Jenniskens



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Time(hr) Sol long ZHR +/-
02 Nov 19 (J2000) (/hr) (/hr)
----------------------------------------
2.767 236.5580 284 99
2.800 236.5594 253 108
2.833 236.5607 292 56
2.867 236.5621 336 52
2.900 236.5636 257 69
2.933 236.5650 332 67
2.967 236.5664 304 58
3.000 236.5677 316 49
3.033 236.5692 324 52
3.067 236.5706 257 47
3.100 236.5720 345 48
3.133 236.5733 302 43
3.167 236.5748 275 36
3.200 236.5762 332 45
3.233 236.5776 293 49
3.350 236.5825 295 63
3.383 236.5839 359 82
3.417 236.5853 514 66
3.450 236.5867 385 56
3.483 236.5881 444 56
3.517 236.5895 511 58
3.550 236.5909 501 51
3.583 236.5923 419 51
3.617 236.5937 566 61
3.650 236.5951 779 82
3.683 236.5965 655 68
3.717 236.5979 718 90
3.750 236.5993 1000 101
3.783 236.6007 797 91
3.817 236.6021 970 74
3.850 236.6035 1379 94
3.883 236.6049 1302 107
3.917 236.6063 1331 95
3.950 236.6077 1481 102
3.983 236.6091 1790 121
4.017 236.6105 1727 103
4.050 236.6119 1985 111
4.083 236.6133 2350 118
4.117 236.6147 2819 121
4.150 236.6161 2499 134
4.183 236.6175 2520 148
4.217 236.6189 2539 120
4.250 236.6203 1728 109
4.283 236.6217 1486 104
4.317 236.6231 1613 97
4.350 236.6245 1562 99
4.383 236.6259 1467 97
4.417 236.6273 1471 91
4.450 236.6287 1193 83
4.483 236.6301 941 81
4.517 236.6315 899 73
4.550 236.6329 933 72
4.583 236.6343 1139 88
4.617 236.6357 859 73
4.650 236.6371 818 95
4.683 236.6385 1009 111
4.717 236.6399 821 111
4.750 236.6413 663 80
4.783 236.6427 909 123
4.817 236.6441 645 74
4.850 236.6455 495 80
4.883 236.6469 535 102
4.917 236.6483 417 80
4.950 236.6497 365 83
4.983 236.6511 546 110
5.017 236.6525 355 76
5.050 236.6539 496 73
5.083 236.6553 533 76
5.117 236.6567 345 74
5.150 236.6581 309 93
5.183 236.6595 539 108
5.217 236.6609 293 72
5.250 236.6623 462 163
5.283 236.6637 261 92
5.317 236.6651 456 161
5.350 236.6665 520 184
5.383 236.6679 324 115
5.417 236.6693 291 103
5.600 236.6770 169 42
5.633 236.6784 168 42
5.667 236.6798 318 79
5.700 236.6812 280 70
5.917 236.6903 175 33
5.950 236.6917 200 33
5.983 236.6931 217 38
6.017 236.6945 297 38
6.050 236.6959 273 36
6.083 236.6973 231 37
6.117 236.6987 294 40
6.150 236.7001 251 40
6.183 236.7015 175 40
6.217 236.7029 302 43
6.250 236.7043 227 31
6.283 236.7057 224 33
6.317 236.7071 265 39
6.350 236.7085 219 38
6.383 236.7099 260 39
6.417 236.7113 184 37
6.450 236.7127 161 49
6.483 236.7141 217 44
6.517 236.7155 145 29
6.550 236.7169 139 59
6.583 236.7183 180 55
6.617 236.7197 280 51
6.650 236.7211 204 41
6.683 236.7225 164 35
6.717 236.7239 155 42
6.750 236.7253 307 62
6.783 236.7267 299 68
6.817 236.7281 281 85
6.850 236.7295 175 75
6.883 236.7309 315 72
6.917 236.7323 224 43
6.950 236.7337 219 34
6.983 236.7351 157 29
7.017 236.7365 162 37
7.050 236.7379 147 24
7.083 236.7393 123 28
7.200 236.7442 206 52
7.233 236.7457 261 65
7.267 236.7471 344 86
7.300 236.7484 278 70
7.333 236.7498 231 58
7.367 236.7513 94 24
7.400 236.7527 131 33
7.433 236.7541 159 48
7.467 236.7554 136 41
7.500 236.7569 221 47
7.533 236.7583 248 40
7.567 236.7597 188 43
7.600 236.7611 195 45
7.633 236.7625 216 58
7.667 236.7639 185 56
7.700 236.7653 140 38
7.733 236.7667 156 39
7.767 236.7681 117 29
7.800 236.7695 95 24
7.833 236.7709 100 25
7.867 236.7723 111 28
7.900 236.7737 89 22
7.933 236.7751 155 39
7.967 236.7765 155 39
8.000 236.7779 144 39
8.033 236.7793 158 36
8.067 236.7807 214 34
8.100 236.7821 278 48
8.133 236.7835 245 38
8.167 236.7849 196 36
8.200 236.7863 147 24
8.233 236.7877 178 41
8.267 236.7891 154 28
8.300 236.7905 142 30
8.333 236.7919 196 30
8.367 236.7933 136 21
8.400 236.7947 212 33
8.433 236.7961 199 35
8.467 236.7975 283 40
8.500 236.7989 227 43
8.533 236.8003 188 31
8.567 236.8017 226 41
8.600 236.8031 194 52
8.633 236.8045 212 48
8.667 236.8059 286 41
8.700 236.8073 147 31
8.733 236.8087 171 34
8.767 236.8101 86 23
8.800 236.8115 180 33
8.833 236.8129 219 44
8.867 236.8143 187 43
8.900 236.8157 234 43
8.933 236.8171 167 45
8.967 236.8185 206 38
9.000 236.8199 146 37
9.033 236.8213 335 44
9.067 236.8227 248 36
9.100 236.8241 104 26
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Peter Jenniskens

The SETI Institute
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http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov
http://aio.arc.nasa.gov/~leonid/
Tilt
6:26:01 AM
11/25/02

I think my brain just exploded.
hyway
7:29:24 AM
11/25/02

I usually just get a fairly intense cramp, LOL

Check the links... there are colorful graphs and photos, <GRIN>.

The first column indicates time periods in decimal form of Universal Time coordinates (very close if not indentical to Greenwich Mean Time)

"Sol Long" is shorthand for Solar Longitude, which is simply a more accurate way of indicating where the Earth is in its orbit.

The third column contains The Goodies. ZHR = the Zenithal Hourly Rate, the estimate based on actual observations of what an average observer might witness if he happened to be in the right place at the right time... without any Moon or clouds to interfere.

+/- ... margin of error

So basically, all this serves to reinforce the perception that we REALLY would've seen a #&%!$load o' meteors if we hadn't had to deal with any clouds or that freakin' MOON, <G>

Tilt
8:17:47 AM
11/25/02

Did anyone see the footage of the meteor that came down in Australia? WOW! That thing was HUGE! Lit up the whole sky, created a sonic boom and was beautiful. I couldn’t find a video link for it though but saw it on the news. They said it was between the size of a VW and a basketball.


Nigal
9:16:46 AM
12/04/05

that's a big difference... a volkswagon and a basketball..
ScorchFire
9:18:56 AM
12/04/05

Not if ya get hit by it! Haha!
Nigal
9:19:45 AM
12/04/05

LOL
ScorchFire
9:29:58 AM
12/04/05

Gosh, Scorch, steal my whole comment, on the size difference. (Explains a lot about men and "size" doesn't it? VW and a BB in the same size range? LMFAO!)
lizs
9:41:15 AM
12/04/05

Why are women such poor judges of distance?
Because they've been told for so long that this (hold up thumb & forefinger) is 8 inches.
the-naviguesser
1:56:48 PM
12/04/05

"(Explains a lot about men and "size" doesn't it? VW and a BB in the same size range? LMFAO!)”

And just who said it was a guy who estimated the size of the meteor? Hmmm?
Nigal
2:29:09 PM
12/04/05

Typical Women assuming the Men must be watching/estimating these things, aye?

Of course, Women have no place in Astronomy or Physics.
bearmagnet
2:38:24 PM
12/04/05

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