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well today I git to go and start the long process of being stripped of all my worldly possesions also known as divorce....

wish me luck.

ps... how can women demand to have equality so long as they refuse to take responsibility for their own well being? doesnt equal rights mean equal responsibility?
dirtyoldman
5:50:17 AM
11/15/02

Good Luck Dude!!
Look at it this way. It's gotta be worth it to be rid of her.
walkindude
6:00:03 AM
11/15/02

I'm really sorry to hear that, dom.
Tilt
6:06:15 AM
11/15/02

This too shall pass...
Hey buddy, it gets better. MUCH better!
sunshine
6:14:29 AM
11/15/02

Good luck DOM. I few years ago a friend of mine came home to find out his wife had movers come in and clean out the apartment while he was at work. She took mostly everything and left him with junk. He's better off today.
richb
6:28:47 AM
11/15/02

Sorry to hear it, but good luck to ya dom.
Try not to lump us all in the same category as your soon to be ex-wife. You won't have any fun after your divorce if you do. :)
twigeater
6:47:18 AM
11/15/02

And be careful not to jump right back into the fire on a rebound. Give the healing process a good two years to evolve.

You will survive....we all did :)
mountainmaster2003
6:50:01 AM
11/15/02

Look Out Ty!!!
DOM will give you some tough competettion!
Bug
7:10:12 AM
11/15/02

competition? you mean in the " I may be ugly but Im well paid" catagory? :}(very popular with some ladies)

thanks guys for the support... I did in fact consider hiring an escort to take to the hearing... just to torque my ex off... hehehe...almost too cruel even for her.
dirtyoldman
7:27:50 AM
11/15/02

Dang, DOM, sorry to hear that. Bummer, but as has been said here, its better in the long run. When you don't even think of things like the escort, you are on the way to normalcy.
Ldhiker
10:15:28 AM
11/15/02

Been there, done that,,,,only thing I had left was the t-shirt to prove it.

Hang tough DOM, it gets better.
chili36
10:19:04 AM
11/15/02

Ditto to what the other divorced folks have said. I like the idea of hiring an escort to take to the hearing. I wish I'd have thought of that.

Been down that road twice. It's a lot better looking back on it than it was going through it.

(Memo to self: See, see what happens?)
Geobeet
10:23:14 AM
11/15/02

Like I always said


"out with the bad, in with the good"

do what I did, I got a new and inproved model!!
mapleleaf
10:32:47 AM
11/15/02

Remember, the opposite of love is not hate, the opposite is indifference. Hate is still a feeling.
Savage
10:50:49 AM
11/15/02

Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.

Thru our marriage, my wife was a strong feminist. Equal everything. The nanosecond she filed for divorce, she became completely dependent on me for all support and was responsible for nothing.
It's all about your money bro.

Just suck it up. The law is against the male big time, but fight as hard as you can.

Things WILL get better.
StoveStomper
11:01:09 AM
11/15/02

sorry but sometimes the woman loose too.
I gave up "THE MONEY" cause it was not worth fighting for.
I didnt have the stomach for it.

So I gave up money for love.
I would do it again in a heatbeat!!
mapleleaf
11:04:10 AM
11/15/02

Wow, I'm stunned! Didn't you both just get his and her's hammocks for backpacking or am I mixing you up with someone else?

I'm really sorry, DOM. I wish that there was something I could say that would make things better. Try to spend your free time with friends, not dwelling on the proceedings.
LyndyS
11:10:27 AM
11/15/02

DOM- is today the conference before the DRO hearing officer? they'll go by an arbitrary equation based upon respective salaries. you can appeal for a de novo hearing before the court of common pleas if you disagree with the amount, but the court rarely strays far from the hearing officer's recommendation. if there's a shot for settlement, consider it. has your marital property been divided yet? good luck.
jmitch
11:11:24 AM
11/15/02

Mapleleaf, my Mom did the same thing when she divorced my Dad. She didn't want us kids mad at her and she didn't have the stomach for the fight. If it weren't for menopause, she probably wouldn't have left my Dad, she would have just stood up to him more. Now they are back together again, and they still disagree about the same things, but my Mom is emotionally better able to handle things. I wonder how many middle age divorces where the woman seems illogical and dissatisfied, can be traced to menopause issues.
LyndyS
11:25:01 AM
11/15/02

I guess both of my marriages ended somewhat amicably compared to some of these horror stories. Then again, we didn't ever have a whole lot to be divied up. The second one did trash some of my personal belongings though, and that still makes me seeth.
Geobeet
11:31:00 AM
11/15/02

dom, if you give me all your gear she can't take it from you:)
i'd be happy to do this for you, just send me an email and we'll set it up.
ductape
11:33:11 AM
11/15/02

Feel for you DOM. You'll get through it, take what you can from it. Try to do it nicely (but not too nice) with her, or you'll both give it to lawyers.
Uphill Klimber
11:44:54 AM
11/15/02

It is usually rough for a while. But it does get better, eventually.

Dec. 26th will mark 10 years since my last drink. After getting rid of my last wife, I was left without an excuse for drinking.

I managed 8 years after my first wife. Then my second one drove me back to it.

Set your own objectives. Your friendships and happiness will be related to your morals and activities.

Good luck.
nowslimmer
1:48:10 PM
11/15/02

After getting rid of my last wife, I was left without an excuse for drinking.


By far, this is my fav. line of the day.


Its scary to think what other people can make us do to our selves.
we are passionant by nature.
mapleleaf
1:54:37 PM
11/15/02

There were things that I wanted to avoid, not face, admit, ...

There was really no good excuse for drinking. It was a way of life.

I have tried to teach my last two daughters:

1. Nothing good happens after midnight. It is better to get home.
2. Nothing good comes from drinking.
3. Nothing good comes from smoking. (She looked beautiful to me, until she put a cigarette in her mouth.)
nowslimmer
2:17:45 PM
11/15/02

"After getting rid of my last wife, I was left without an excuse for drinking.

HEY!! That happened to me too. After my divorce, drinking quit me! Halleleujah! A revelation here on TT, who'dathunkit?

Love that line too.
Ldhiker
2:27:39 PM
11/15/02

Enjoy, DOM, enjoy!!
aero
2:36:25 PM
11/15/02

Well that was an interesting hearing... plug all the numbers into the computer and it spits out the judgement....

1400.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh well , glad its only for 9 months. Its not like I had any use for it :P

Had a lot of nerve asking me if I would take her to lunch afterward though, rather typical.

You are right about what a loved one can drive you to. Mine almost put me in a funny farm.(and quite frankly it will be a very long time before I ever trust any other)In the end at least this way there is at least the possibility of hope and just like trail food this too shall pass.
dirtyoldman
2:46:06 AM
11/16/02

A little travelin music for ya DOM
Prine:

I met a gal from Venus
Her insides were lined with gold
She did what she did
Said how was it kid
And she got politely told
Pretty good
Not bad
I can't complain
Cause actually
Everything is just about the same.

Kristoferson:

Ever since the first I had
The worst I had was good

Not a song but,
M.L. King Jr.:

Free at last
Free at last
Thank God almighty I'm free at last.

And always remember this:

She was gonna cost you money if you stayed married to her.

At least this way there is an ending one day.

And you get to keep your sanity.

Ain't that a better deal?
Geobeet
8:16:18 AM
11/16/02

LOOK AT YOURSELVES!
"Its scary to think what other people can make us do to our selves.
we are passionant by nature."
mapleleaf
01:54:37 PM

We do to ourselves by choice. There are other choices.

I left my husband because he was abusive. He was and is a major #&%!$ but I ended up with him for a reason. I didn't play the victim and whine and cry. I changed ME and now I am a better person for the whole affair.

Stop dwelling on coulda, shoulda, woulda. Stop dwelling on the ex-#&%!$ and start dwelling on yourselves. Start being the better person today!
sunshine
8:26:23 AM
11/16/02

It sounds like you were forged in the fire, Sunny. Abusive situations are way different than the ordinary "irreconcilable differences" divorce. I'm glad that you are doing so well now, I'm sure that it hasn't been easy.
LyndyS
8:35:20 AM
11/16/02

Perhaps it's an extreme situation but it all boils down to:

We can change no one but ourselves.
We can change the future but we can't change the past.
Others affect our lives but we shouldn't let them or their actions control our lives.

And most importantly:

The best way to get back at the ex is move on, succeed and be happy without them. That'll show 'em! ;o)
sunshine
8:42:28 AM
11/16/02

It's not so much showing them, but allowing yourself to heal. But I think there is a time and place to feel and express anger and maybe even resentment. The point is to do that and move on.

Eventually you arrive at the conclusion that it was part of your past but not who you are.

You do speak truth, Sunshine. Abuse can lead to feelings of victimization. I don't think most of us who go through divorce for other reasons feel so much victimized in that sense as cheated, lied to, and used.

And men (or women) who get hit up for alimony payments above and beyond any legitimate need, I think, do have a gripe.

But, as I say, it was gonna cost either way. At least with alimony, there is an end. And you can arrive at that point where you let go of the past and move on.

Things do take time. Not everyone can arrive at the point where they change themselves at the same time. Some never do.

But you are correct in defining that moment as the point where peace comes and holding it up as the goal to be reached for. Victimization in any form is a self-defeating process.
Geobeet
8:50:45 AM
11/16/02

actually the really bad thing is that if I had killed her like i wanted to 15 years ago id be long done and over it by now....(kidding)
dirtyoldman
9:55:19 AM
11/16/02

1400 x 9 = 12600

$12600.00 is a very small price to pay for freedom and a shot at happiness.

Good luck to you, DOM.
Phaedrus
10:03:32 AM
11/16/02

Stop dwelling on coulda, shoulda, woulda. Stop dwelling on the ex-#&%!$ and start dwelling on yourselves. Start being the better person today!"
sunshine
08:26:23 AM
11/16/02

Marriage is an awesome thing when it works. So often it does not work. I would say "Love them, go backpacking, leave the Lone Pine Ranger Station as a forwarding address." But do not marry them!
wld
10:09:48 AM
11/16/02

lol DOM. hang in there dood.
stratdewd
10:10:58 AM
11/16/02

Yeah DOM, I was gonna throw that old joke "If I had shot her five years ago I'd be getting out about now" at you, but I didn't want to give you any ideas, LOL!
Geobeet
11:00:21 AM
11/16/02

At first I was afraid.
I was petrified.
I kept thinking I could never live
Without you by my side.
But then I spent so many nights
Just thinking how you'd done me wrong.
I grew strong.
I learned how to get along.
And so you're back from outer space.
I just walked in to find you here
Without that look upon your face.
I should have changed my #&%!$ing lock.
I would have made you leave your key
If I'd have known for just one second
You'd be back to bother me.

Oh now go.
Walk out the door.
Just turn around now.
You're not welcome anymore.
Weren't you the one
Who tried to break me with desire?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh not I.

I will survive.
As long as I know how to love
I know I'll be alive.
I've got all my life to live.
I've got all my love to give.
I will survive.
I will survive.

It took all the strength I had
Just not to fall apart.
I'm trying hard to mend
The pieces of my broken heart.
And I spent oh so many nights
Just feeling sorry for myself.
I used to cry.
But now I hold my head up high.

And you'll see me with somebody new.
I'm not that stupid little person
Still in love with you.
And so you thought you'd just drop by,
And you expect me to be free.
But now I'm saving all my lovin'
For someone who's lovin' me.

Oh now go.
Walk out the door.
Just turn around now.
You're not welcome anymore.
Weren't you the one
Who tried to break me with desire?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh not I.

I will survive.
As long as I know how to love
I know I'll be alive.
I've got all my life to live.
I've got all my love to give.
I will survive.
I will survive.
japhy
1:14:29 PM
11/16/02

I prefer....
"send lawyers,guns and money..."
dirtyoldman
2:29:27 AM
11/17/02

so DOM what happened,

sun, like I said "get yourself a shinny new husband"
I got tired of starting to know the Doctors by there first names.....nuff said.
mapleleaf
6:36:23 AM
11/17/02

maple Im not sure whacha mean what happened?!... I left her about two months ago and we had a support hearing which she got 1400.00 off my pay. I thought you spent more time here then that. {@
dirtyoldman
7:59:24 AM
11/17/02

oopss sorry i missed that one.
as long as your ok!!!
mapleleaf
8:03:34 AM
11/17/02

I aint happy about the 1400 but its a small price to be rid of her.

now all I got to do is find a nice kinky girl who back packs and likes older well insured men ;]
dirtyoldman
8:09:15 AM
11/17/02

GEAR SLUT
mapleleaf
8:13:17 AM
11/17/02

LOL at maple, you are SO bad.....
StoveStomper
11:46:07 AM
11/17/02

YIKES!!!
I didn't read the whole thread...

$1400 in spousal support?! Is that per month? My ex doesn't pay that much in child support for two kids! You must be rolling in the dough! I'm sorry to hear that but it's just money. That's material. There are far more important things in life... like kinky sex! ;o) Hope you find what you're looking for!
sunshine
4:47:40 PM
11/17/02

Nother song:
Thank God and Greyhound she's gone

Roy Clark
Geobeet
9:01:52 AM
11/18/02

I've served 22 years of a life sentence so far. The average murderer only spends 7 years behind bars. Do you suppose if I did it now, that they'd suspend sentence for time served?
Hobbit
6:39:23 PM
11/18/02

This is a joke. I am not advocating murder!
Here's the deal. You can file for divorce, which will take a year or more, followed by four to five years of support. Or you could murder your spouse, be sent off to the Big House for 10 and get out in five for good behavior. Your pick.

JUST KIDDING; THIS IS A JOKE
Geobeet
6:43:28 PM
11/18/02

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