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New Jersey joined a handful of other states in banning dodgeball (a/k/a bombardment, murder ball, and killer ball) a few years back. Now several school districts have banned the game of tag. The concern is over physical injuries and… get this… some kids may be bullied by repeatedly being it.

Speaking as someone who was not always the fastest, strongest or most physically gifted, I’d have to say that this is the biggest bunch of bologna ever.

Isn’t it possible to over-insulate children? How many games are 100% physically safe? How are we to learn to handle disappointment and how to deal with bullies if we have to wait until we are 18 to start?
Violin
2:43:18 PM
11/18/02

Try this
Maybe the kids should pray about it; no wait. Thats right, they ca'nt prey in school either.
paddler
2:49:58 PM
11/18/02

They could play lawn darts!

8)
Crazy Mike Backpacks
2:50:55 PM
11/18/02

LMAO... I bet they always picked on the TROLL, huh?? hehehehehehe

WHOOPS, didn't mean to hurt your self-esteem!

What's next?? Banning KING OF THE MOUNTAIN on the piles of snow cleared from sidewalks and driveways???

You're right, Violin. We're gonna have a society of people who have no clue how to deal with anything that might go against them.
lizs
2:50:56 PM
11/18/02

I meant they ca'nt pray in school either
paddler
2:51:25 PM
11/18/02

They can pray in school, they just can't do it in an organized, let by a teacher, way. I'll bet that lots of kids still pray, while graded tests are being handed out.
LyndyS
2:53:25 PM
11/18/02

I don't see why school boards can't just tie dodgeball or tag into Darwinism. That comparison could only be used as an example of a metaphor for English class.

See? Dodgeball has multiple uses, and it's a fine sport. Before you know it, they'll ban baseball, football, and the rest of the sports because some out of shape kid who eats chocolate donuts for supper got his feelings hurt for not making the team.

America is just too soft these days, and I mean that literally and figuratively.
Artex
2:53:53 PM
11/18/02

Well, they can't really prey in school either, at least not for food...
bitpusher
2:53:54 PM
11/18/02

I used to pray during dodgeball all the time. "Please don't let me go through the rest of the day with a big red mark on me."
Violin
2:57:14 PM
11/18/02

they banned dodgeball?? woo hoo! that game sucks a huge fatty. murder ball indeed, LOL! but tag, that does seem a bit extreme...
lyra
2:58:06 PM
11/18/02

At our school, the PTA replaced all the playground equipment because so much of it was off limits due to insurance reasons, especially to the younger kids. So in the first few weeks of school, several kids were injured falling off the new equipment, and parents were complaining. Now explain this to me, because these same parents have their kids involved in gymnastics, soccer and baseball. They have Razer scooters, bicycles and rollerblade skates at home. Why is a child's injury while at school always a possible lawsuit? The lawsuits are the problem really.
LyndyS
2:59:38 PM
11/18/02

I love you, you love me, ...

WimpNation!

Play rugby: give blood!
Geobeet
3:00:12 PM
11/18/02

Good point, LyndyS.
Artex
3:02:51 PM
11/18/02

Play hockey GIVE BLOOD!!!!!

8)
Crazy Mike Backpacks
3:03:48 PM
11/18/02

Two of my favorite PE games were dodgeball and NBA (no babies allowed). NBA was a gorilla style full court basketball that positioned 2 new guards at half court and 3 defensive players would go on offense after a score or turnover. Both games usually turned into a biohazard.
trailhound57
3:04:11 PM
11/18/02

Everybody wants to sue because they think they will get a windfall. All they really accomplish is driving up the cost of living so suits can be paid off.

It's driving health care through the roof and other costs higher, taxes higher, and soon everybody will sit around wondering why they have to wheel a shopping cart full of money into the supermarket to go out with a tiny sack of groceries.
Geobeet
3:06:44 PM
11/18/02

I used to love bombardment! Nothing like getting smacked in the face with those big, rubber balls! The best part was when the gym teacher would declare "wall to wall" and the losing team would be put out of their collective misery.
aero
3:08:14 PM
11/18/02

Kids today need to go outside and had a good dirt-clod fight!
aero
3:11:03 PM
11/18/02

you have GOT to be kidding, aero! in elementary school, the boys and girls played together, and it was soooo painful to get hit!! i totally throw like a girl too, so it wasn't like i could get back at anyone. oh, the humanity!! basically, gym class just sucked. even volleyball hurt! LOL. i'm such a dork.
lyra
3:13:22 PM
11/18/02

We had seperate games for the boys and girls. We were lucky; those girls would have kicked our asses!
aero
3:14:58 PM
11/18/02

.'America is just too soft these days, and I mean that literally and figuratively.'
Artex

You're correct. But since Spring all new people in the Marine Corps must obtain a "black belt" within two years.

And I'm trying to do something about it. You've seen my pictures. And I have health club memberships for both my daughters in the area.

But it ain't right. Girls are supposed to be soft, sweet and lovable.
nowslimmer
3:33:53 PM
11/18/02

I heard a few months ago they banned musical chairs in Swenden or something. Claimed it was too violent.
stanlee
3:38:02 PM
11/18/02

Swedes play hard!
nowslimmer
3:39:39 PM
11/18/02

We used to play "Smear the Qwear" and dodge ball.

I was a tiny little dude and I tried to hold my own... wasn't always successful.

I guess the next step is to ban math. Some of those kids just don't get it and they will suffer emotional trauma from repeated failure!
Donman
3:42:41 PM
11/18/02

Nowslimmer, anybody making an effort to improve themselves gets two big thumbs up in my book. My hat is totally off to you. It better be, or I have a feeling you'd flip me much harder than that dude in your pics! :-)

As for females and dodgeball.. well, perhaps you have a point. But playing boys and girls seperately could still work.
Artex
3:46:32 PM
11/18/02

I loved the playground ball which was slightly larger than a softball. You could really wing it and raise a welt. We also played a game called "chink" and if you lost you had to put your hands to the wall and get pelted with the ball. Just above the back of the knee was a sweet spot to target if the kid was wearing shorts, else the small of the back was a good alternative.
Limpy
3:54:58 PM
11/18/02

i'm such a dork."
- lyra
03:13:22 PM
11/18/02

See? That's exactly what I'm talking about. If lyra, myself and others hadn't learned our place early on, it would have only delayed the inevitable. We'd have gone bat#&%!$ on our first rejection.

stanlee - musical chairs has been banned here for some time because it encourages exclusion. Someone always got left out.
Violin
3:59:51 PM
11/18/02

Who's up for playing a round of GRAB ASS!!!

Solitary Dawn is it!
Pantscandy
4:13:52 PM
11/18/02

we still play dodgeball here in michigan, well at my HS anyway. But i gotta agree with aero, dirt clod fights dominated my elementary school recess.
howitzer
5:11:38 PM
11/18/02

i hit my sister wif a dirt clod and it had a rock in it so she took my giant coffee can full of bb's and threw them in a feild so i emptied out my bb gun and acted like i was gonna shoot her but i forgot the it kept one bb in the chamber and so i shot her in the ass, point blank and so she told my dad when he got home and he took me bb gun away for 6 weeks.......
stratdewd
7:59:48 PM
11/18/02

ah airguns.
howitzer
9:46:31 PM
11/18/02

Violin - It is nice to know you agree with Rush Limbaugh on something.
Phil
10:01:08 PM
11/18/02

Speaking of kids getting in shape for some ourdoor activities, the new Krispie Kreme's grand opening is set for 5:30 AM tomorrow. As of about 8:00 PM tonight when I drove by there were about a dozen cars waiting at the drive-through.
pepsi
10:13:07 PM
11/18/02

Ah, BB gun fights. Fond and painful memories of BB gun fights. Now days they call it paintball. 68 caliber paintballs coming at you at 300 feet per second and they can still put an eye out....................or a testicle.
ULTRAPecker
10:14:27 PM
11/18/02

They could play lawn darts!

8)"
Crazy Mike Backpacks
02:50:55 PM
11/18/02

This is the funniest thing CMB has ever said, and he should be recognized.

ROFLMAO!
Buddha Bear
10:30:25 PM
11/18/02

I used to pray during dodgeball all the time. "Please don't let me go through the rest of the day with a big red mark on me.""
Violin
02:57:14 PM
11/18/02

I just peed myself - lol!
Buddha Bear
10:31:27 PM
11/18/02

Who's up for playing a round of GRAB ASS!!!

Solitary Dawn is it!"
Pantscandy
04:13:52 PM
11/18/02

Gotta admire a man true to his name. All the HMWH Boys concurr.
Buddha Bear
10:34:03 PM
11/18/02

dodgeball absolutely rulz! We need to have a tourney at TC2
Buddha Bear
10:35:22 PM
11/18/02

Slow, fat , whinny and weak. Americas children...
birch
4:53:28 AM
11/19/02

I don't know how I survived!
I used ride a bike without a helmet, used to climb rock ledges without a rope, used to ride my bike where my Mom didn't realize I was going.... I used to walk so far from home through the fields and woods that it would take us the rest of the day to get back....I used to climb trees...Even fell out of one right onto my back!!! It knocked the wind out of me so bad that I layed there for a while with my Grandfather standing over me asking if I was alright. And all of that before I even turned 10.

Think I can still sue my Grandfather and the guy who planted the tree???
Adventurist
5:16:51 AM
11/19/02

I do not know what is worse. The slick smooth talking lawyer who twists the truth, and manipulates tort system to make a windfall at someone else's expense, like a poor school system, or the people on the jury who awards loads of other people's money just because they have sympathy for the guys story in court.
prosecutor
5:55:14 AM
11/19/02

My wife kept my son from playing football ( and I let her do it )when he was younger and always had problems with competitive sports for the kids. Finally I let him play and he had a blast and learned many life lessons from the experience, besides being pretty good at it. Competition and contact (collision) is a natural thing and to deny it is ridiculous. Granted it's not for everyone.

He wrestled in high school too. One day at lunch at work (school) some other teachers were talking about how boys were acting out some homo-erotic fantasies when they wrestled. Whoa! Maybe, they saw that when they watched it, but my son just wanted to beat the hell ( so to speak)out of the other guy. Plain and simple.
JO
6:54:51 AM
11/19/02

Many years ago my older brother and I would climb the rocks at Great Falls on the Potomac(Virginia side).

We would be 50 to 60 feet above the roiling water and certain death with only one way to go.....UP!

Sheet, it was one way to rid ourselves of little sisters.

There was ususally at least one who would brave the rocks and try to hang with us.

Inevitably she would get stuck and we'd have to rescue her sorry butt and send her back to the picnic under protest.
Tom Terrific
7:06:10 AM
11/19/02

Get a load of those "pro" wrestlers in their little black "panties".

What's up with that?

On the other hand, high school wrestling is a great sport.
Tom Terrific
7:09:35 AM
11/19/02

voilin, why don't you just admit you're a conservative?


BOL!
stratdewd
7:16:57 AM
11/19/02

I'm not sure that I agree with Birch about American children. Most of the kids (ages 6 on) in team sports here in NJ play in any kind of weather except lightning. They go to hockey practice and games at 4 AM since there are not enough indoor rinks. The kids do not seem to be weak sniveling wimps to me, but some of the parents certainly are.
LyndyS
7:17:32 AM
11/19/02

As for females and dodgeball.. well, perhaps you have a point. But playing boys and girls seperately could still work."
Artex
03:46:32 PM
11/18/02


I played intramural broomball and ice hockey in college. In broomball, we feared the nights we had to play the 1st floor women's team. They were big, and they were brutal! In hockey, we feared the nights we had to play the hockey wives/yooper women. We always got our asses kicked. Separating the sexes is not always the best thing to do! I'd rather have played some of the geeky men's teams!
smiley girl
7:28:36 AM
11/19/02

I pretty much sucked at team sports . . .but I played them all. And tried my ass off (I still sucked). The ONLY report card I remember from schol is from 5th grade. I was really smart . . .so grades were never an issue for disccusion. My teacher report that "lee has made a lot of progress on the softball field"

I was absolutley F-ing thrilled (i still sucked).

I loved soccer and was okay at it.

But . . .oddly enough, I LOVED LOVED dodgeball. The ball never hurt THAT much. And I was always pretty fast, could dodge well, and I've always had a good arm and cold throw well. Dodgeball was the only childhood sport I exceled at!!!!!

Only once did I get really torqued. We played a version where we all lined up against a brick wall with one guy throwing. Then first guy hit would join in throwing, then the second guy etc. Eventually you'd have one guy left and half a dozen kids hucking balls at him.

One time I got clocked in the forehead, and my the back of my head wacked the brickwall pretty hard.

I really don't remember much form my childhood after that . . .
lee
7:29:49 AM
11/19/02

.'The slick smooth talking lawyer who twists the truth, and manipulates tort system ...'
prosecutor

Here I am learn aikijutsu (defensive combat). (After testing I received my fourth belt, blue, last night.) But I understand that even if I am forced to use my training, I have to be extremely careful not to hurt others too much. The laws vary from state to state, but a judge will look very carefully to see if the damage done was justified by the threat. It makes no difference that I am protecting myself, my family, stopping a crime, or preventing someone else from injury. Lawyers will sue me and everyone connected with my training.

So, in case something should ever happen, I have worked out my legal defense in advance!

I wish that I had enter these classes years ago. (I am 70. Me on Phil's Photo Page..) The learning builds self-confidence for situations that we now try to avoid or escape.
nowslimmer
7:29:59 AM
11/19/02

lyndy, good point. over-generalizations rarely hold true. the liberals have been very succesful in femanizing alot of this country. they will keep trying too. it just doesn't work on everybody, but they keep trying. it's another example of the libs' social engineering experiments, with our kids for subjects. i refuse to let my boys play soccer, lol.


that violin recognizes this is a promising sign that all is not lost. heck, even tom terrific seems to get it......kindof...


my wife doesn't see how this is a political issue, but it completely is.....
stratdewd
7:32:20 AM
11/19/02

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