Meanwhile Back in Afghanistan

““Well actually the proof in the pudding there will be what happens AFTER we leave. Ped in a way we are arguing shades of grey. Personally I would have liked to see American just target Iraqi Military units. Heck you can find a division of tanks...then Saddam violates a regulation...BOOM. A division disappears.

Our inspectors go to a palace or what not (where most of the stuff was stored) they deny access as they were supposed to allow..the inspectors thank them. Get in the choppers and leave. A couple of hours later the WHOLE facility disappears.
XL400236
9:53:07 AM
11/14/06

Actually that makes some sense to me. My gut reaction is that I could have supported that.”

“Wars dont determine who is right.... only who is left.”

“Ped the problem is that people want war to be clean and 'nice". One of the reasons Sherman made the March through the South was to "bring the war home to the Southerners" he believed war was a horrible business. The more horrible the quicker people would want to end it.

There was a great Star Trek episode on this vein. I think we need to understand that if the war is to be fought we take NOTHING off the board. I am sorry but one of the greatest lessons is that Japan (a historically aggressive nation) has never taken an aggressive action since 1945.”

“Hardly a good example XL, japan is forbidden to have a military. That is why the US is required to protect Japan.”

“AND Lumber is WRONG they are not FORBIDDEN it is part of their constitution.. actually their Constitution is in the process of being changed so they could send troops to support us in the Iraq War.

History is neat...huh...oh tonight Glen Beck will have a neat show on Headline news about the WACKjobs of the Islamic world. Should be entertaining to see that even if we run away they are pursuing us.”

“Sherman's "War is Hell" doctrine is hardly something to emulate. He threw all morality (if there is such a thing in war) out the window. Anything goes seems to be the method the Bush Administration would like to adopt however, the Geneva Convention defines otherwise.

Hopefully the next time we see Rummy, it'll be standing tall before the man in the Hague.”

“If anything, the Bush Admin. did not employ enough of the "anything goes" method. You're kidding yourself if you think the war had more GC type violations than any other war in human history. I'm sure it makes great "hate Bush" conversation around the pow-wow at the monthly Hemp Weaving meetings at the local public library.”

“Yeah, I was going to reply to roseymonster's absurdity, but moonglo beat me to it.”

“Moon can back this up...but in history the ONLY nations to follow the Geneva convention was American, England and Australia.

France blew it off in Algeria, The camel heads have NEVER done it....additionally everyone here knows that you have to be in a uniform of a recognized military to be considered protected if you are bearing arms of combat.”

“False.”

“What's that line about repeating a lie enough times?”

“Wrong Rev.”

“"You're kidding yourself if you think the war had more GC type violations than any other war in human history."

You seem to be taking lessons excellently from the pundits in Washington by putting words in my mouth. I never said such a thing, merely echoed what the world is observing: The U.S., in its bastion crusade to rid the world of "terrorism" has elected, instead of setting of setting an example, to brush off many elements of the Geneva Convention and even call for revoking it.”

“Name one element of the Geneva Convention we brushed off in this war. You better had make sure you consider the Geneva Convention in context (in total) before answering. Hopefully your copy of the G.C. has Article 4 in it.
last edited: 11/15/06 4:47:43 PM”

“UH NO XL, it was and is a term of Japans WW2 surrender.”

“Hi rosey. I hope you don't forget about us. bump”

“Um Lumber it is part of the Japanese Constitution....Articles of surrender ended in the 1950's...

As for the treatment of the terrorists...um what nation do they represent. They are primarily Lebanese, Jordanian, Iranian, Saudi...um...as far as I know none of them represent a military action as a representation of that nation. So they are not representative of the nation at war or any other participants.

Those that are Iraqi...lol turn em over to the Iraqi government....that will end”

“Uh XL - you were the one who disagreed with the contention that Japan was forbidden. Lumber didn't say it wasn't in the constitution. Didn't the surrender come before the constitution?”

“I'll lift my detail so you all can kiss under it.”

“Either way XL your example of Japan is worthless since we provide for defense of the Japans.”

“Theres two Japans? LOL Well actually we do provide for their defense...but no more than we provided for the defense of Europe (never seem to hear the libbies #&%!$ing about that do we? (Maybe that the Europeans were originally our ancestors or somthing (LOL)).

But getting back to Afghanistan...so if Iraq and Afghanistan have become failure becuause in what....5 years we have not had success...can we also include the Great Society and the WAR on Poverty...heck and even the Education Department.

The War on Poverty (say 40 some odd years old) has caused more death, pain and waste of money than pretty much all the Wars in American History combined (in the 1980's the figure was about 7 Trillion wasted). The Department of Education (Nixon) has produced nothing but the demand from the Teacher's Union Thugs for more money and more money...and continually produce results that are staggeringly poor. I mean it is obvious that the teachers are there for the most part to get an easy DOINK from students and pick up that free paycheck.

So you pull out of Thought Control and Government Sponsored Slavery and I will call for the removal of our troops from the War.”

“Xl, it seems you've misteakin me for someone else, I dont support a lot of the extra functions the federal goverment has been doing. All other arguements aside anything done on the Federal level costs several times what it would cost on a local level. I firmly believe that goverment should be kept to a minimum. If it were up to me Federal taxes would be capped at 10% and the boys would be told to make do...

We are not required to keep an aircarft carrier group off the coast of Europe but we do keep one in the Japans at all times. (and yes plural is correct since there is more then one island.)”

“Well there is one Nation of Japan...and you do know that we cannot leave there due to the closeness of NK and Chicom ville to Japan (now one of our closest allies).

Now the question is...when the Japanese constitution is altered to allow them more than a "National Defense" what happens?

Right now they have the capability to project power on a par with most European nations...i.e. they have a number of aircraft and equipment to take their military off the island. But they do not have the naval capability to project power.

In fact about the only nation with the ability to REALLY project power from their shores is ...the United States.

The fact is that Japan doesn't want to do this. They and Germany learned a very hard lesson about aggressive use of force. Now if we had taught similar lessons to the Chineses in North Korea, and the Iraqis and Iranians....I am betting we would see alot less terrorist violence.”

“Terrorism isnt the same as a goverment. We helped drive them out of afghanistan and still they exist. You simply cant deal a harsh enough blow to them because they will just scurry away and recruit new people. The closest you can ever come is to hunt down anyone who commits a terrorist act.

China may be an ally but they certainly are not our friend!


To get back to the subject, where is all the aid we promised the afgani's? We could have avoided the whole Iraq thang if we just kept our promises overseas.”

“How are things in Afghanistan?

Going well?

Staying the course?

Where's Rumskull?”

“Why does MarkO hate America so much?”

“Good idea Marko!

One of many ways to conduct a Pagan faith-based war on terror!”

“Hey, I remember that guy. We caught him didn't we? Oh that's right we didn't we got him confused with someone else. He's probably living in a mansion in Riyadh with a harem of not long to be virgins.
last edited: 12/19/06 11:09:24 AM”

“Why does StoveStomper hate MarkO................so much?

You're like my shadow.”

“Yeah. I think he was card #41...”

“Why does MarkO take personal pleasure in my house being damaged by Katrina?

I don't hate you MarkO. I just love giving you back crap.
If you can't take it crybaby, don't dish it out.
LOL”

“I heard something on the NPR Saturday show....they were talking about how the State Department needed a list of Iranian Nuke Scientists to put on a list. The CIA was too busy so one of the State people Googled "Iranian" and "Nuclear" and got the entire list (okay they had delete previous searches since Britney Spears NUDE kept coming up).

Then one of the people said, "(Laughing) jump ahead a year or so and we hear some General saying,"It is rather odd how we did it. We put "Osama" and "Cave" then hit Google Map...and BOOM there is was."”

“LMAO! XL listens to NPR!!! HAHA!”

“Hey I pay for it...I pay taxes.....(either that or some of the wierd saturday stuff around here)>

Besides you know to stay up on the opposition....”

“I love NPR! Car Talk, Fresh Air, A Prairie Home Companion, this American Life...it's all great!”

“Car Talk is hilarious..you see them in CARS?”

““Why does MarkO take personal pleasure in my house being damaged by Katrina?

I don't hate you MarkO. I just love giving you back crap.
If you can't take it crybaby, don't dish it out.
LOL”
StoveStomper
1:30:12 PM
12/19/06

Because you're such a wuss'n'puss.

I have an origami paper house that I'm using like a voodoo doll.
Is your roof leaking................yet?”

“Poor MarkO, subhuman.
Normal people do not wish others pain and suffering for their political views, MarkO.
That's why I lack any respect for you and and your buddy, Bubba Bear, as human beings.

I will say you two are an almost perfect example of the foolish far left, hate filled wackos.”

“Ha ha !!

You got off easy last time, pal.

I'm callin' in a tornado on your ass this time!
When you get it, you'll know it was from me!

This time I will enlist the help of my evil good buddy Nimblefoot and we will pool our cosmic energies and bring it down on ya!!

Hoohoohahahahahahaha!!

Oh yeah, when does tornado season start?

I don't give a rat's ass about your political views.
Its your being an unrelenting azzhole that compels me to pick on ya.”

“Worked pretty well on the INCREASED hurricanes this year...I say go for it..Markypoo.

Maybe you are related to that Psychic on the Global Warming page.”

“Its your being an unrelenting azzhole that compels me to pick on ya.”
MarkO
3:25:15 PM
12/19/06

LOL
Guess it takes one, to know one, subhuman.”

“Subhuman???

Up your's, simian!

Go play in traffic.

Shut up, XLax!

I didn't even try this year.
Now, Katrina!
Oh yeah, I called it down on that monkey!
last edited: 12/19/06 3:36:55 PM”

“Release some of that hate, MarkO. It's not healthy to keep it in.”

“LOL did anyone here get those "sign this Petition for Women's Rights in Afghanistan" during the CLEENTON Debacle?

LOL I jsut saw a friend who has returned from his third tour in Afghanistan. He was laughing....the libbies #&%!$ed so loudly in the 1990s' about freedom...it was finally acheived...at the end of US Weapons.”

“"LOL did anyone here get those "sign this Petition for Women's Rights in Afghanistan" during the CLEENTON Debacle?

LOL I jsut saw a friend who has returned from his third tour in Afghanistan. He was laughing....the libbies #&%!$ed so loudly in the 1990s' about freedom...it was finally acheived...at the end of US Weapons.”
XL400236"


Anyone have either "XL Decoder Ring" so that we can understand just what the hell this moron said?
last edited: 1/04/07 4:03:17 PM”

“Just wash a handful of OxyContin down with a quart of Mad Dog and it makes perfect sense.”

“Q is so funny.”

“".......freedom...it was finally achieved."

This refers to Afghanistan and freedom finally being achieved indicating that the condition of freedom is final.

That's good news if its anything like the truth.”