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not as easy as I thought! “The form is: abab bcbc cdcd ee 14 lines in all, no need to count syllables! "It started with a pleasurable walk, if you wish, a hike. To be where flora and fauna talk, that's what I like. Give me no road. lane or pike. The crunch underfoot is what I seek. Not to shave, grow a Vandyke. Be a "Mountain Man," so to speak Some find their gear at a fancy boutique. You use a Leki, I'll use a stick, (I fancy that its mostly technique, besides, I'm a cheap prick!) Its so hard to find the time... harder still, to find the rhyme. Thank you, thank you very much! I know its dumb but somebody had to start the thread and dumb threads are my speciality!” 1:24:56 PM 1/09/03 “rock on! ya cheap prick. LOL! but for real, i heart sonnets. :-)” 1:30:50 PM 1/09/03 “I have some I wrote, somewhere. I think they're on my computer at home, I'll look for them later.” 1:38:30 PM 1/09/03 “holding lighter overhead while swaying back and forth. it's unclear if the rocking motion is due to inebriation Woooooohoooooooo!!! Freeeeebiiiiiird!!!!!!” 1:41:13 PM 1/09/03 “Actually, there are a lot of sonnet forms, but the most common are Elizabethan, with a rhyme scheme of ababcdcdefefgg, and Petrarchan? with a rhyme scheme of abbaabbacdcdcd. Both forms are typically written in iambic pentameter, which basically means ten syllables with a beat of duh-DAH duh-DAH duh-DAH duh-DAH duh-DAH... OK, that's enough English for today, lol....” 1:47:01 PM 1/09/03 “there are actually several forms the sonnet may take. one of the two most common, the Italian / Petrarchan sonnet, goes: a b b a a b b a c d e c d e the English / Shakesperian sonnet is the form flyguy's talking about. here's a sonnet website for days and days of fun!” 1:52:18 PM 1/09/03 “wait, now i'm confused. bitpusher and i said two different things...wow, poetry class was a long time ago! well, this will give me something to do for the rest of the day, LOL!” 1:57:36 PM 1/09/03 “okay, i think flyguy's is Spenserian, and English/Shakesperean is ABAB CDCD EFEF GG. and bitpusher and i are both right on the Petrarchan...it can be both. in case anyone cares! hee hee!” 2:01:40 PM 1/09/03 “Other features of a sonnet: Endstopped vs. enjambed lines... These lines from Shakespeare are all endstopped, meaning that they don't rely on the following lines to make sense, and finish with a grammatical unit. "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? Thou art more lovely and more temperate. Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May, And summer's lease hath all too short a date." These lines by John Donne (what a FREAK), on the other hand, feature enjambment, or "stepping over" of meaning to the following line. "I am a little world made cunningly Of elements, and an angelic sprite ; But black sin hath betray'd to endless night My world's both parts, and, O, both parts must die." wow, i'm having fun giving myself a refresher...” 2:17:25 PM 1/09/03 Shakespeare “took the Romance language sonnetians to school. The Romance languages are much more conducive to sonnets because so many of the words end in vowels - esp Italian and Spanish: "De la el toro. Fo do de ha. Mi es me cinco, I me papa!..." But English? Pretty tough... except for Shakespeare. I've done a few while and since taking English Lit in college.” 2:34:42 PM 1/09/03
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