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We don't want you to end up in the hospital either. Take care of yourself, Pam.
toejam
4:03:15 AM
12/13/07

Hugs to yall...Pammie...I'm there with ya!

We all needs some TT TLC today!
crazygurl
4:16:09 AM
12/13/07

Today sucks.
StoveStomper
6:43:32 AM
12/13/07

Here is this months Yo-Yo ride:

Steve Jr got a job!

ErinAnne was evicted (she never could catch up with a payment that a past roommate defaulted on)

Steve Jr moves in with us (very mixed feelings on this one, i don't think it's a good thing though, he's just not growing up. i am charging him rent)

Had a high school job!

breaks are squealing on my truck and there's not enough money to fix right yet.

i'm hanging in there so far. yo-yo hasn't cracked itself on the ground yet, LOL!
Pamela
5:02:51 PM
12/13/07

Pamela... I have been on Lexapro and other anti-depressants for years. Most recently I am on one that also treats the chronic pain of my neuropathy. Sometimes meds are truly what is needed. Notwithstanding all the stuff other Christians can throw at you. The body mechanics are just not perfect operationally anymore.
ramblinrev
5:08:19 PM
12/13/07

I'll tell ya what, I generally have my head screwed on right and I operate on an even keel. Since starting my job with Hospice I have become very good at compartmentalizing my emotions and feelings in order to not go stark raving crazy. Yesterday I took care of a 45 year old man who had liver cancer. He's real close to the end and not doing well. This is my youngest patient so far and I think it's really brought up some feelings I don't know where to stuff. Plus my favorite patient is going to pass at any hour.

I had today off and I thought, "OK, ya have a day off to think of everything but work, recharge the batteries and get back at it tomorrow.". And I wake up to the news that Bearmag's gone.

I'm not really depressed but there is a funk in the room.
Nigal
5:11:12 PM
12/13/07

I never met him and I was weeping this morning. My wife asked my what was wrong. Definate funk in the room.
ramblinrev
5:13:56 PM
12/13/07

Good luck to all of you.
MarkO
5:28:56 PM
12/13/07

Comfort food .... "chinese".
Sarge
5:29:34 PM
12/13/07

Let's all take a deep breath.

Take care of yourself, Pam. I wish I had something intelligent to say.

There is a funk, but it - well, I don't know what it will do.

Rev, when I wrote SAD I meant severe anxiety disorder.

Hang in, Nigal, what you do is important and it makes a difference.

We have not yet found meds that I can handle. We removed work instead. Funny, two years ago I was convinced I'd die in the classroom a long time from now. At every breakdown I'd be back in three months. In 2 005 it took my a year and when I walked out last June I knew I would never go back.
Gremlin
12:00:21 PM
12/14/07

Ahhh thanks for the clarification. That's why I spelled it out... hehehe

Gremlin at the risk of intruding. I know some alternatives to meds that might be worth checking into. I will not go into them on line. If you are interested, give me a message at the email in my profile.
ramblinrev
12:04:24 PM
12/14/07

Cool, Rev, but I think I'm already there.

Doug
Gremlin
12:05:59 PM
12/14/07

I know people are having some success with some kind of rapid eye movement therapy. That's as far as I'll go outside of fuego... hehehe
ramblinrev
12:08:10 PM
12/14/07

I swear the Grim Reaper is following me [looks over shoulder]. Got back to work today and lost three patience in one day and my favorite one will probably pass tonight. I'm dealing much better with everything today though.

It rains on the just and the unjust and everything I experience in life is for my ultimate good.
Nigal
2:16:10 PM
12/14/07

another down ride on the Yo-Yo:

aaaaaaaggggggghhhhhh!!!!! all of the usb ports on my computer died! i can't print anything and i can't save anything on my external drive or even on a flashdrive! no christmas cards! no photos!

Pammie is sad.

the good & bad news? i'm loosing this computer in a few weeks to a month for i don't know how long, i have to ship it off to get my money back.
Pamela
3:07:16 PM
12/14/07

*bump*
gojo
8:00:23 AM
1/02/08

*bump* ??
Euro hike
8:08:17 AM
1/02/08

with all this bumping going on how could anyone be depressed?
thriftyhiker
8:09:08 AM
1/02/08

The holidays are rough.
Hang in there, buddy!
last edited: 1/02/08 8:10:15 AM
StoveStomper
8:09:44 AM
1/02/08

hang in there gojo. How is the truck decorating going?
Pathman
8:40:24 AM
1/02/08

*wump*
MarkO
8:50:38 AM
1/02/08

*huh*...?
Euro hike
8:52:20 AM
1/02/08

*hump*
MarkO
8:55:11 AM
1/02/08

I wonder if people can be depressed, and very happy at the same time.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/103483/Most-Americans-Very-Satisfied-Their-Personal-Lives.aspx

At first glance, you'd think obviously not, by definition. But, what if through your depression (a feeling of unhappiness), you attribute it to a chemical state in your body, as opposed to a logical one, and can mentally separate that from how you think you're doing in life overall. What if you could say "I know I am feeling sad and depressed, but I acknowledge that as a chemical state, and am generally happy with where I am in life. It's not life that sucks, it's my depression that does."?
Sarge
9:06:10 AM
1/02/08

“with all this bumping going on how could anyone be depressed?” ~ thriftyhiker

Ah, but there is no grinding. That's what is missing. ;)
MsDoolittle
9:39:24 AM
1/02/08

I don't know, Doolittle.

Those Europeans do grind some mean..................coffee.
MarkO
9:52:00 AM
1/02/08

Be happy that this isn't you ...

hyway
10:31:01 AM
1/02/08

Helmet Laws Suck!!
MarkO
10:31:54 AM
1/02/08

Oops, I forgot to turn on the Sar-Cas-Ma-Tron.
MarkO
10:32:56 AM
1/02/08

looks like he could have used a chest protector law as well.
hyway
10:36:41 AM
1/02/08



Did someone want grinding? Oh btw I saw Sweeney Todd last night. If you like Soundhiem's music don't miss it. There is a Depp/Carter duet that is just simply wonderful.
ramblinrev
10:38:34 AM
1/02/08

Sarge,
I have been in a state of dep. for, like, forever. It varys in degree from one period to the next, but is omnipresent nonetheless. Yet, I am often happy as a clam and have moments of "ahhhh, now this is what I'm talkin' about!"
gojo
10:48:12 AM
1/02/08

Depression is different than personality types. Different instruments use different names but a "melancholy" personality might exhibit some outward signs of depression yet be very different. Clinical depression is also very different than temporary depression. Medical science is learning more and more about the states of depression that we can experience.
ramblinrev
10:54:58 AM
1/02/08

eureka! - Now if we can harness that, perhaps some people could live more 'normal' lives ...
Sarge
10:55:17 AM
1/02/08

gojo, my wife doesn't suffer from depression as much as anxiety but she describes it the same way...when she's feeling good she can only enjoy it so much because she's still worrying when it will get bad again
thriftyhiker
10:56:25 AM
1/02/08

gojo, I have been there. Keeping myself occupied helped as much as anything. Sometimes I had to force myself to get up and do something, but the more you do, the easier it is to move forward.
chili
11:04:51 AM
1/02/08

The biggest problem with "deciding" not to be depressed is that the chemical imbalances really work against that. The chemical balance is critical to how we feel and function. We can decide not to let the depression keep us from doing the things we used to like to do. But the imbalance will allow that to be effective only so far. The more severe the imbalance, the less successful we can be without taking steps to bring things back into balance.
ramblinrev
11:05:38 AM
1/02/08

when she's feeling good she can only enjoy it so much because she's still worrying when it will get bad again”~thriftyhiker


Yah. I was kinda like that with summers when I was teaching.

My beef with the crap is how the major episodes tend to slam me to the ground and keep me pinned until I've lost all I had gained since the last one.

I'm 50. I've worked hard all my life. I have a truck and two dogs to show for it. I'm quite pissed just now.
gojo
11:09:42 AM
1/02/08

The biggest problem with "deciding" not to be depressed is that the chemical imbalances really work against that. The chemical balance is critical to how we feel and function. We can decide not to let the depression keep us from doing the things we used to like to do. But the imbalance will allow that to be effective only so far. The more severe the imbalance, the less successful we can be without taking steps to bring things back into balance.

How do you know this? I happen to believe that the mind is very powerful, and can certainly "overpower" itself. One must only be more logical than the imbalance to overpower it. A 'naysayer' attitute will certainly bring quick defeat.

I am not suggesting the depression will necessarily leave, but the overpowering feeling that there is no hope can and will. Through hope, comes action.
Sarge
11:12:27 AM
1/02/08

i was reading through some of the older posts on here and someone nailed my wife's situation...they said drugs will only treat the symptoms, you won't feel true piece until you address the causes...my wife recently realized that and is working through her issues (her childhood) in therapy and is making much bigger strides than she did w/ drugs...we have a big test ahead of us, our daughter's due in february
thriftyhiker
11:16:58 AM
1/02/08

Sarge I know this from a lifetime of personal experience as well as training in pastoral care and anecdotal evidense from many other suffers of depression. Agree or not... I couldn't care less. But that is how I know it
ramblinrev
11:25:45 AM
1/02/08

Agree or not... I couldn't care less.

Wow, nice attitude. What kind of pastoral training taught you that?

Anyways, for the non-trolls ... I know from a lifetime of personal experience, that the mind can overcome. My suggestion is to not let the naysayers tell you that you can't do it. You can. It's only when you give up HOPE that you fail.
Sarge
11:32:05 AM
1/02/08

ok... sarge goes back on ignore. but for the record, Sarge's agreement does not determine my own convictions.
ramblinrev
11:35:14 AM
1/02/08

that's the same way tom hanks thinks so it must be true LOL
thriftyhiker
11:36:38 AM
1/02/08

Yeah, I was out of line, and you weren't. *rolls eyes*
Sarge
11:37:50 AM
1/02/08

Tom CRUISE, Tom CRUISE thrify.
dayhiker
11:41:48 AM
1/02/08

thrifty, your first post sounds like you support Tom's idea that drugs aren't the cure-all, then you seem to be making fun of his ideas.

Drugs are a tough area. The drugs for depression often do more harm than good. On several occassions I've spent entire nights watching over acquaintances so they don't kill themselves due to drug imbalances (one was a TTer). I do think they have their place, but due to the nature of the illness, it's a tough thing to monitor and get just right.

A good combination of properly administered and monitored drugs, along with a healthy attitude (a naysayer approach will not work my friends ...), a healthy diet, and a bit of healthy activity can cure any depression's symptoms.

Taking away hope and recommending sitting around a tree beating a drum isn't the cure. It only emphasizes the problems.
last edited: 1/02/08 11:53:26 AM
Sarge
11:51:37 AM
1/02/08

dude, it was a joke...i actually agree with you...and why do i ALWAYS mix up the Tom's...they're complete opposites
thriftyhiker
11:54:09 AM
1/02/08

I assumed it was a joke, just making sure.
Sarge
11:56:00 AM
1/02/08

Well, whatever the answer, I gotta find it soon.
gojo
11:57:59 AM
1/02/08

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