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I've had beer with pepperdog. She's lovely.

Now, pepper, if you ever have a billion bucks, remember who your friends are, okay?

:)
Phaedrus
10:58:01 AM
2/07/03

The image of him sitting in the tree talking to the interviewer was priceless.

But he's a molester, I'm sorry. That's what he is.
Geobeet
11:01:04 AM
2/07/03

I think I know that tree, hroomm hoom...
treebeard
11:02:06 AM
2/07/03

Well pepper who's to say those children were not mixed in a test tube..then fitted inside the womb?
I have a hard time believeing as you that any woman would do "it" for any amount of money...or would they?
clem35yeah
11:30:51 AM
2/07/03

he he he.
Buddha Bear
11:37:17 AM
2/07/03

oh you sweet talkers!!!! Now I know where to go when I feel like fishing for compliments.

Clem35yeah - interesting question. How much money would MJ have to offer me to carry and give up his baby. What do you say, gals - any takers?
pepperDog
11:37:28 AM
2/07/03

Well...for starters....
I could not think of having sex-o with Jack-o to have baby-o. I would think I was with Janet-o the whole time.

Secondly, being paid to create a victim is not something I could knowingly do.

Thirdly, I don't care for Elizabeth Taylor. Tha whole clan makes my stomach churn. I guess I would rather put my life on the line in Iraq, if given the choice.
wolfeyes
11:52:39 AM
2/07/03

Wolfeyes, I wholeheartedly agree with your second point. How horrible for those children.

MJ is a selfish child. Probably stemming from whatever abuse he endured as a child himself. The man obviously does not care about the welfare of those kids. He just knows that kids make him happy. That whole zoo incident where the children were almost trampled, he got giddy with excitiemnt at all the attention. And the fact that some woman wanted to give him a child simply as a gift, she didn't want to be involved in the child's life. Yeah right. He's become more like Psycho Jacko. So many things I saw last night clearly showed that he is selfish, the spending spree, all the way to his kids. Those poor kids have no shot at a normal life. He doesn't love them, he loves the fact that he has kids, he probably thinks it makes him look "normal" to the world. The whole thing was so horribly sad, IMO.
smiley girl
12:39:58 PM
2/07/03

Well put Smiley...
Another point is this:

He has his OWN kids so that they are raised under HIS power and cannot go to someone else (yet) and speak of any abuse. Until our society can see through character instead of waiting for action, in this case, sexual abuse, a lot of kids are just objects to some people and/or parents. It's very sad that our society sometimes blinks the blind eye instead of keeps it open.
wolfeyes
12:48:23 PM
2/07/03

Mama always told me
Now we know what happens when you keep grabbin' your crotch and sing, Eee-heww!
Capn Bobo
12:53:20 PM
2/07/03

Can You Tell I Missed It?
How are we supposed to know about shows like this if noone lets us know ahead of time what and when it'll be on TV???

SOMEONE is not doing their job here. lol
Buddur
12:53:53 PM
2/07/03

I'm sorry, but Janet is HOT!
roseymonster
12:55:12 PM
2/07/03

There was a thread on it yesterday Buddur. Ya just missed it.

And yes, Wolfeyes raised the very pertinent point that abuse often takes years to out. No telling what those kids are going through. Maybe they really do think daddy loves them. I would think there is enough evidence there for a bust.
Geobeet
12:58:38 PM
2/07/03

I'm sure those kids think Daddy loves them. They have no other frame of reference. Unfortunatly, if they remain where they are, they will not be able to function in this world, just as their Daddy can't function in this world.

Its the cycle of abuse.
smiley girl
1:01:38 PM
2/07/03

His Money Could Be Spent On Helping Others
If Michael Jackson truely wanted to help children, this lack of face should be a start.
Buddur
1:06:00 PM
2/07/03

the childre
Well I wouldn't have a baby for any amount of money for MJ>

As for his children they only know what he has taught them...as they get older and have more exposure to other children they may tell and see more about others and how screwed up their lives are.
clem35yeah
1:16:12 PM
2/07/03

buddur
That just gave me the chills.
treebait
1:54:23 PM
2/07/03

I guess I should have posted it here!
"Although, I didn't see the program, I have read quite a bit about it and I watched some other stuff about him on VH-1. Personally, I feel very sorry for him. How can you not pity him? He is obviously very disturbed and in need of real help, but he may not realize that and because of his extreme fame and wealth, he is able to "keep help at bay." If you know what I mean. Watching him on VH-1 was painful. He literally looks like he is severe mental distress. Sad.

Even more sad . . . I think he is probably a genius. He is certainly a genius of theatrics and music.
newgirl
2:07:28 PM
2/07/03

You may be right, newgirl. Aren't genuises sometimes really screwed up in the head? Look at Van Gogh for one.
smiley girl
2:14:27 PM
2/07/03

Geobeet
2:15:44 PM
2/07/03

ok if anyone saw the interview, he said that "he allowed a child to sleep in his bed, while he splet on the floor in a sleeping bag"

LISTEN and stop reading between the lines or sheets in this case


ps, i wonder what kind of bag he has?
mapleleaf
2:24:17 PM
2/07/03

Yes, Maple, that's exactly what he said. But still, the whole thing was just wierd. The interviewer asked him if he had guest rooms or other beds. Yes, of course he did. But, why are these kids still staying in his room? Some weird fetish, again, his own selfishness.

Moreover, (wow, what a big word!) its the fact that he invites disadvantaged kids to Neverland. These are the kids who are at risk for some type of abuse.
smiley girl
3:00:05 PM
2/07/03

Mapleleaf gets the award for turning this into a gear thread!!!! Talk about reverse thread degeneration!!
pepperDog
3:04:49 PM
2/07/03

Good point w/ Van Gogh, Smiley. I don't if the man has abused children or not. He is an adult and has the ability to make choices about his life, but if he has abused, it probably springs from his very abused childhood. It takes everything a person has to break cycles like that and it is very, very painful (I am by no means, saying that as a way to excuse child abuse of any nature). Again, I think that his extreme wealth and fame have probably allowed him to escape dealing w/ those issues. He can get sicker, sicker and literally create an illusionary world in which to live.
newgirl
5:14:57 PM
2/07/03

And here I thought this was a thread for those of us who stay incognito..... MJ ???? Does he backpack?
WLD
6:55:00 PM
2/07/03

lol
Well if he had a bag I am sure it's not a small one...but I dont' think he is innocent by a long shot.
clem35yeah
9:16:02 PM
2/07/03

Sit on my face and tell me that you love me, I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you, too...
It's so hard to moralize, when I'm between your thighs, you blow me away...
Father Goose
10:57:21 PM
2/07/03

makes sence to me...
Innocent until when ?
Innocent until who?
Innocent until what??
Innocent until where???

Maybe MJ is the one we could ask these questions.
clem35yeah
9:51:01 PM
2/08/03

your such a dork.
The Official Dork of TT
5:52:29 PM
2/09/03

Hate to bring up Michael Jackson again, but someone has leaked a copy of the complaint filed against Michael Jackson in 1993, that prompted the lawsuit which he settled out of court for an undisclosed sum of money. I'm posting a link to the Smoking Gun page with a warning: I had to stop reading on page 3, because it was getting too sick to continue to read.
bitpusher
9:51:45 AM
2/11/03

Yeah, this kid, now 23, has a 2.5 million dollar house in Colorado. So does his stepdad, as a matter of fact.
treebait
9:52:58 AM
2/11/03

Do you think it was all just a scam, treebait? That is of course, a possibility.
bitpusher
9:54:29 AM
2/11/03

I'm not completely certain either way. I almost think they have something completely separate on him and are blackmailing him. But like I say I'm not sure.
treebait
9:58:36 AM
2/11/03

When that was released by The Smoking Gun yesterday, Jackson stopped his smear campaign against the reported who was responsible for that three-hour "interview" that was on TV last week. I think there's probably something to the 1993 allegation, otherwise he would have fought a little harder then, and wouldn't let it silence him now.
bitpusher
10:01:43 AM
2/11/03

agrees
Sounds like a good bet that MJ is really in deep here... Iheard that he was going to release his own version of that interview because he did have his own people shoting the cameras at the same time as the other guy.
clem35yeah
11:36:05 AM
2/11/03

does this mean his next concert is cancelled?

"Eee-hew!"

Billy Jean, is not a girl...
Capn Bobo
11:40:51 AM
2/11/03

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