The French

“OK, I'll buy that JO. I'm just saying that it's a whole bigger stretch to compare Bush. Maybe a comparison to the guy in Thailand or Laos(?) is closer. Phenom Phen? or something like that.

How is Miller an idiot by saying that if some idiot is standing next to you with a swastika that they need to be pounded. His only comment directly about the French was surprise considering WWII. He didn't say anything more inflammatory than that.”

“I suppose you didn't see the word "IF" in my post.

Resorting instantaneously to violence to resolve political differences is another matter entirely. Dennis doesn't really impress me as the 'whoop-ass' type, LOL


But here's the REAL question I have...

I wonder why some United States citizens of today feel "The French" "owe" them something?

It is quite true that, to their great credit, some US citizens fought the Italians and Germans to the death. It is also quite true that many more paid taxes 50 years ago that went to rebuild Europe under the Marshall Plan. But was the liberation of France a major objective of World War II or simply a matter of mutual self-interest? Could it be more accurately described as being incedental to ridding the world of the Fascists and the Nazis? We did leave Europe to the Germans for quite some time, you know... during both world wars. I suppose we'd have to take credit for that also... ?

So.

I don't know about you, but I haven't done anything for The French to owe me anything. I didn't drop the bomb on Hiroshima and I don't owe anyone reparations for slavery. I also don't see how the events of over a half century ago give the Bush Administration any right to dictate what the foreign policy of a sovereign nation should be.

The truly selfless acts that United States citizens of the mid-20th century performed on behalf of the French people seem cheapened by some of the things I've seen and heard recently... on both side of the Atlantic.”

“I don't guess I had thought about it in terms of owing us(yes, I realize theres an implication of that in my previous post). I don't feel the French owe me anything and couldn't care less if they are for us or against us.

No, I don't think we freed Europe to free the Germans. I don't think we're going to free Iraq to free the Kurds either.”

“I wonder if anyone visited the link under Robert Scheer's name above?

It has some interesting perspective on why France, a former colonial power that sought to civilize the world, might have some valuable insight into 'Pax Americana'.”

“oooh... THAT link....”

“Violin is like the kid who cried wolf.

No one clicks on his links anymore.”

“Who would pay $100 for a little piece of fabric sewn onto a stick. Any moron could do that and call it the French Battle Flag.”

“ROTFLMAO at blueboy.
Your in a special school are you not? Short Yellow Bus?”

“What are you talkin about bazooka, please bring me up to speed.”

“Violin, you son of a silly person, I fart in your general direction!”

“Actually, that was a pretty interesting article.”

“Joe is such a SLOW little troll.

That flag link was posted three or four days ago, skippy.”

“Dayhiker, you were thinking of Pol Pot earlier, he lead the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.”

“I didn't think it was Thailand. I kept thinking of countries close to Vietnam and drew a blank. Thanks.”

“Mark Twain hated the French. Here are a few of his observations and comments:

There is nothing lower than the human race except the French.

The French are the connecting link between man & the monkey.

France has usually been governed by prostitutes.

A Frenchman's home is where another man's wife is.

An isolated & helpless young girl is perfectly safe from insult by a Frenchman, if he is dead.

A dead Frenchman has many good qualities, many things to recommend him; many attractions - even innocencies. Why cannot we have more of these?

In certain public indecencies the difference between a dog & a Frenchman is not perceptible.

M. de Lamester's new French dictionary just issued in Paris defines virtue as: "A woman who has only one lover and don't steal."

It is human to like to be praised; one can even notice it in the French.

France has neither winter nor summer nor morals - apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.

The objects of which Paris folks are fond - literature, art, medicine and adultery.

Trivial Americans go to Paris when they die.

It is the language for lying compliment, for illicit love & for the conveying of exquisitely nice shades of meaning in bright graceful & trivial conversations--the conveying, especially of double-meanings, a decent & indecent one so blended as--nudity thinly veiled, but gauzily & lovelily.”

“France isn't such a bad country, just the people that live there suck, otherwise it's a pretty cool place.”

“Tilt! Ack! you are so right and so poignant (sp?)”

“france is hiding something, stalling to save themselves embarrasment.


it's all violin's fault....”

“Well, look what the septic tank just threw back! Tell me, you bigoted pigs, what do the French owe YOU?

Zip. Zero. Nada.”

“Personally I think French wine is Beautifica! (or something)

Also, thier cheese stinks and it's great”

“Actually, Dennis Miller showed a picture of George W branding Jaques Shirac on his exposed buttocks, while oil spewed out of the top of the Eifel Tower.
I don't think name-calling is any more effective now than it was in third grade.”

“miller fried the french, i couldn't believe it. the best part was the huuge responce from the audience.

i saw a pole from france today. 72% of the population has a negative opinion of america. guess they are bigoted and pigish too, huh tilt?”

“"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea
of liberty." --Thomas Jefferson”

“Sorry Dun, but I think the shoe fits in this instance.

No, Dewd, they're majority anti-BUSH, just like the majority of Brits. Being anti-Bush does not make them anti-American: Not By Any Stretch Of The Imagination.
If that was the case, By All Means wrap his ass in a toga, stick a torch in his hand and plant him out in New York Harbor!

Why don't the goobers cut loose on the British, the Germans, the Chinese and the Russians in the same fashion? Can't they manage to find more canned quotes lying around the internet to paste here?

An original thought be would be WAY too much to ask for, I know.”

“no tiltie, i saw the pole results with my own 2 eyeballs. it said...america, not bush.....


what biggoted pigs!”

“Maybe it's your breath.”

“My suggestion, for anyone who is characterizing the French as anti-American, is to take a trip to France. I found the people that I spoke with to be, in general, understanding of the fact that folks are folks all over the world. Some are, indeed, anti-stupid-tourist, but who could blame them?
This is just a smattering of personal experience, but I base a lot of my opinions on my experience.
Anyway, carry on with your French-bashing if you think it's going to make you feel any better.”

“i don't really care about them one way or another, truth be told........”

“Yep, it's best to paint with broad strokes if you don't know what you're trying to cover, right folks?”

“ooohhhh....burned me on that one....”

“It's no surprise the French won't help us get Saddam Hussein out of Iraq. They didn't help us get Germany out of France, either.

Still, it's essential for them to join us in the war against Iraq. They can teach the Iraqis how to surrender.

And why are French streets tree-lined? So the Germans can march in the shade.

How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? No one knows. It's never been tried.

What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up? The army.

How many gears does a French tank have? Five, four in reverse and one forward (in case of attack from behind).

FOR SALE: French rifles . . . never fired, only dropped once.

When the French pulled out of NATO 40 years ago and declared Americans must close down their bases in France, Secretary of State Dean Rusk had a bitterly caustic response. Should we dig up the graves of American soldiers in Normandy, too, and take them home? No French answer was recorded.

"You can always count on the French to be there when they need us!"”

“Prosecutor, shouldn't you be out looking for free hats on the web?”

“So, in the "new" history books, there was no French underground that suffered many deaths and imprisonments because they fought against the occupying Germans?
Just curious as to when this book is going to be on the stands.”

“Careful, Dunadan, they're going to think you're me.”

“The French made major breakthroughs in camoflauge in WWI.


This phots depicts them being transported to a prison camp, note how clean they are.”

“Dang, Phaedrus, I will watch myself more closely in the future. Thanks for the warning.”

“France has proved itself the most adamant opponent to war with
Iraq, with its desire to undermine U.S. influence abroad, collect
billions of unpaid Iraqi IOUs, profit from existing oil contracts
with Iraq once sanctions are lifted, and appease its own 6 million Muslim residents -- 10% of France's population.”

“When I was in Paris, there was a big rally near the Bastille memorial. I never did find out exactly what it was about, although the Algerian flag was being waved about. I would guess the participants to be mostly middle-eastern or northern Africans.
I was told it was not a big rally, by Parisian standards. There is, indeed a large middle-eastern population in France.
France is much more closely linked to Iraq economically than the US is. They might be totally trying to look out for their own economic interests, when they ask for more time until we take military action.”

“i agree dan”

“France announced today that it plans to ban fireworks at Euro Disney,
following last night's display that caused soldiers at a nearby French
army garrison to surrender.”

“Q: What do you call Frenchmen advancing on Baghdad?

A: Businessmen”

“hmmm, I'm sure that joke could be reversed to include Americans and oilmen Mutt”

“What do you call people who slur others to puff themselves up?”

“Racists? Nationalists? Dunno. It's long past annoying.”

“I have little against the French. In fact, I find the fashionable anti-French sentiment to be tiresome as well. But I do enjoy these jokes!

:P”

“"A Frenchwoman walks into a bar carrying a duck under her arm. The bartender says, "HEY! You can't bring that pig in here." The Frenchwoman says, "Excuse me...but that's a duck." The bartender says back, "Excuse ME, but I was talking to the duck."”

“A frenchman walks into a bar, smiles at the landlord and orders a glass of wine. The frenchie looks about and sees a camel sitting at the bar as well.

The frenchie asks the landlord, What is that dirty camel doing in here?

The Landlord pulls a cricket bat out from behind the bar hits the camel in the head and the camel gives the landlord oral pleasure.

The Landlord looks at the frenchie and says "You want a go?" to which the frenchie replies: "Oui, but there is no need to hit me over the head."”

“What is the most useful thing in the French Army?
A rearview mirror, so they can see the war.”

“Why did the French celebrate their World Cup Championship in 2000 so wildly? It was their first time they won anything without the help of the U.S.”