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Terror threat/ backpacking plansView Messages“Has anyone curtailed or changed their plans because of the terror threat? Maybe to stay close to the family or just to be able to stay informed. My guard unit has the policy that you cannot be anywhere, for more than 48 hours, that you cannot be reached by phone. In other words, a five day trip into wilderness with no cell service is out of the question. Also, if anything did happen, I would want to be close to my family, or able to respond to my unit whatever the case was.” 9:30:50 AM 2/13/03 “Mother Goose and I are going to Charit Creek this weekend with a dozen of our closest friends. Tell 'em to start the war without us...” 10:02:48 AM 2/13/03 “I'm not changing any plans, tahoe. But I'm hoping to be standing on top of Mt. Rose looking down toward Reno on Sunday (weather permitting), so send up a flare if anything happens, OK?” 10:05:53 AM 2/13/03 “it just gives you something ELSE to talk about around the campfire while you're burning a doobie 8)” 10:19:26 AM 2/13/03 “I'm hip, Big Daddy Goose, they can start the war without me too! Its nice be incommunicado for a few days and just let the world be buggered.” 10:23:30 AM 2/13/03 “Most cellphones will not get a signal very far into a mountain area. Unless carrying a satellite phone or pager you are out of reach. This latest is a ridiculous knee jerk reaction. It has been a long time since I have seen anything as silly as the plastic film and duct tape craze in this area yesterday. No, I am not changing any of my plans which do include going out for a look at some Catskill peaks this weekend.” 10:29:11 AM 2/13/03 “So how much has the price of duct tape gone up since the code orange alert? I think it's time for the gov't to investigat this travesty!!!!” 10:32:01 AM 2/13/03 I want my CNN! “Let's see...I could huddle in front of the TV and watch Wolf Blitzer go on, ad nauseum, about bombing some bunker... or, I could be skiing and camping in the mountains....” 10:32:55 AM 2/13/03 “People in my area are supposed to have duct tape and plastic anyway because of our proximity to the Anniston Army Depot Chemical Weapons Station. They have an incinerator there that is supposed to start getting rid of the US's chemical weapons stockpile. I didn't stock up because of that and I won't bother for this. I do need to get some more duct tape for my backpacking repair kit, but will wait so that I don't look like one of the reactionaries. On a side note I took a long day hike the day of the Columbia disaster. I was weird to come out of the woods and hear what had happened. At first I thought they were talking about the Challenger anniversary and then I realized the truth. Very sad and shocking.” 10:37:11 AM 2/13/03 “Peronally, I'm looking forward to spending a year in a foregin country backpacking without the influx of US media. I'm sure I'll tune into the net or read the paper from time to time but I don't think I'm going to miss the constant barrage of "news" we all face, all the time, every day. I've never lived my life without the mainstream media and no doubt, this will be an experiment. I think I'll like it.” 11:40:35 AM 2/13/03 “No I am still going to go backpacking this weekend. 8)” 11:41:14 AM 2/13/03 “NO!” 12:24:22 PM 2/13/03 “Are you kidding? HPM, Laurel and I are going dayhiking this weekend just to get away from the doom and gloom on tv! THat, and Laurel's finally strong enough to sit up on her own for the entire ride.” 12:25:37 PM 2/13/03 “I'll be in the company of 14 Boy Scouts this weekend. Cold weather & lots of snow here in PA. No change of plans here.” 12:51:41 PM 2/13/03 “I am meeting up with an elite National Defense Militia this weekend in the Anorandaks. We will be conducting secret maneuvers in case our army is wiped out by french insurgents, and the US is invaded. We plan on becoming the 11th Mountain Corps. Militia. If the war does start while we are gone, and or a terrorist attack ensues, good luck and God bless, we will avenege you!” 1:12:41 PM 2/13/03 “I have nine cub scouts for a two day outting, Spike. Good luck. Hope the kids have a great time” 1:14:08 PM 2/13/03 “Buddha, the fact that our avengers are going to be drunk from the Buddha Bar doesn't instill confidence. Too drunk to fight, Buddha, are you French?” 1:14:41 PM 2/13/03 “I, for one, think Buddha Bear is French. Eleven corpses, huh? That leaves maybe three survivors.” 1:18:00 PM 2/13/03 “The only time I resemble a frenchman is when you are behind me, and I start walking away from you.” 1:23:41 PM 2/13/03 “That sounds more Greek, BB” 1:27:05 PM 2/13/03 “Stop me from backpacking this weekend....not a chance....those stinkin towel heads can kiss my arse....just once i'd love to knock one of those stupid things off their skull...” 1:32:40 PM 2/13/03 “.......oh and one other thing....muslim this up your rear end...” 1:33:49 PM 2/13/03 “BB You sayin' you got a nice arse? That, I don't need to know!” 1:35:01 PM 2/13/03 “Buddha is a brave Frenchman. He walks away instead of running.” 1:38:57 PM 2/13/03 “Nice, Stratusloop. Nice.” 1:52:38 PM 2/13/03 “Headin' out the door right now for 4 days on the trail. Later!” 2:08:30 PM 2/13/03 “It is certainly nice to get away from all the poop on T.V. and the radio for a while. It helps to put all things in the appropriate perspective. After to much exposure to the media, I tend to start wanting to wrap my house in plastic and then dig a hole in the basement in which to live.” 2:14:23 PM 2/13/03 “~sniff~ I am the only one staying at home. treebeard is taking the little cubs camping, twignut is going to visit her big sister in PA. great if anything does happen I will not be able to get to my family. Thanks for the reminder! Spike, we tried to get a cabin in PA but they were all booked. your lucky.” 2:15:35 PM 2/13/03 “Going for a three day hike in Castle Crags Wilderness starting Saturday. My wife is staying home for a peace march in Sacramento on Saturday. Duct tape and plastic film will not be used this weekend.” 2:22:34 PM 2/13/03 “yes I think everyone but me will be at that march. it is cross the USA right?” 2:25:46 PM 2/13/03 “Phaedrus - Maybe I'll see her there! Of course I have no idea what she looks like... Have a great time at Castle Crags. I have always wanted to go there.” 2:28:43 PM 2/13/03 “You Go Goose” 2:29:40 PM 2/13/03 “OPPS, i think the march is across the world right??” 2:30:01 PM 2/13/03 “Hey pepper! Go to my homepage listed in my profile and there are some pics of her :) Say hi if you recognize her she'd love it!” 2:37:36 PM 2/13/03 “Look it all comes down to this if I am snowshoe backpacking and something goes wrong than at least I was happy when I go. 8)” 3:39:27 PM 2/13/03 “Im leaving on sunday for key largo in vaction, woohoo! and hey if they blow up the plane, i'll be on tv. (does your 15 minutes of fame count if your dead?)” 4:11:14 PM 2/13/03 “I might be out hiking with a friend and her Cub Scouts on Sat. Should be interesting!! lol” 8:10:16 PM 2/13/03 “best place if the caca hits the fan is out in the backcountrty! too bad i'll be in town....” 8:24:38 PM 2/13/03 “Ha Ha!!!!! I am going to be snowshoeing and its going to rock!!!! 8)” 8:25:28 PM 2/13/03 “With North Korea having a missile than can reach our west coast, the threat of a terror attack is going to be somthing we have to live with all the time. Since a little plastic and duct tape is unlikely to do much to prevent this, I might as well continue backpacking and enjoying life as usual.” 8:37:04 PM 2/13/03 “Plans are still the same. Snowboarding in the mountains. We were on the JMT during 9/11, climbing a 14K peak 3 days from our resupply, and didn't see many people after. One group of 4 came from MA, their plane was told to land in Chicago (?), and they spent the night at the airport thinking they could catch the next flight out. By the 3rd day, they decided to do a 1900 mi / 28 hr drive to CA so they could backpack the Sierra. We saw them on 9/16. We saw their names in the register on Mt Whitney, so they made it. We heard a lot of people cancelled their trips so those who went to the ranger station were able to get permits for Whitney with no problem. WLD, JDsmiling, Maddwalker, Tery4U and Poppycock still showed up 3 days after 9/11 with our resupply, including the LA Times, so we could see what was happening in the world. (now those are real friends, even with the world in trouble, they weren't going to let us down). It was a shock to us, but we continued our trek for another 8 days. It was eerie, jets would fly by two or three at a time every 2-15 minutes, or sometimes there was silence for hours. I won't change my plans this weekend.” 1:40:12 AM 2/14/03 “I've had really good luck getting out with my cellphone from "peaks". Mostly I use the 3w bag phone, but have been lucky with the handy-dandy too. I would go anywhere. I'm not changing my plans or my work which includes time at the fed courthouse in NYC. My only wish is that the leaders of ball countries involved in this pissing match duke it out alone.” 2:38:39 AM 2/14/03 howitzer “Enjoy key largo. Was there a couple of weeks ago. Hope the weather is better. Had a great time! If you haven't been to the Everglades go for a day trip.” 8:22:10 AM 2/14/03 “No cabin for me. Tents for everyone! But - just got the call that they're cancelling because of the weather. Suppossed to got 6" tonight and maybe a foot on Sunday. Sounds great to me but, it would bury some of the kids.” 11:41:12 AM 2/14/03 “news after hearing this, all i wanted to do was pack up and get out of NY for a few days. scary sh^t.” 1:31:49 PM 8/02/04 “hmmm i guess it's local news then.” 2:47:34 PM 8/02/04 “Yeah, it doese seem a bit scary-and obviously I hope nothing at all happens in regards to the threats. Best scenario-they catch them (those promulgating the threat, or those attempting to carry it out)without injury or incident. Next best scenario-nothing happens, due to the heightened security or due to the threat being an empty one, meant to disrupt/distract. I haven't been doing much hiking lately (I've been seriously into cycling&cycle touring lately-hence off of this board for a long while), but I allways enjoyed a nice hiking trip much more than equal time spent in Boston(heck I live here-I can allways go into the city-but how often do I get out?). For example, I was doing a little cycling in Europe over the summer (Budapest to Istanbul). A couple weeks before I was to get to my journeys end, I had heard of the attempted disruption of the NATO conference-several bombings, one a suicide, along with a rumured attempt against President Bush. Many backpackers were changing plans to either delay going to Istanbul during NATO, or avoid the city all together. I feel bad for those that missed out experiencing the sites/sounds/flavors of city due to fear. I submit that rather than pack up and get out due to fear, pack up and get out-for the fun of it(you live there, so you get to enjoy NY whenever you want, say when the weather is too crappy to go for a nice hike). If I were currently traveling with ANY of those areas(NY,NJ,DC) as my destinations I'd still go-and the heightened security would probably make things safer anyways. No worries!” 2:51:34 PM 8/02/04 “And you call yourself a New Yorker? I work on the floor above a financial institution in New Jersey. We're hoping we get a chance to pull a 'Richard Reid' on a terrorist.” 2:51:39 PM 8/02/04 “Don't hold your breath looking for terrorists. Look what Shrub has done for us: any idiot who wants to sow terror in the U.S. has only to send out an email containing "specific" threats, and that causes all kinds of police, fire, rescue, and FBI overtime, not to mention fear. Does it occur to anybody that these "threats" only seem to materialize when the administration needs to counter bad news? And it the threat is genuine, who would believe it, considering the fact that we have heard this time and time again when things aren't going Bush's way? The real terror threat is that Bush is in political trouble, that's the terror threat!” 2:57:19 PM 8/02/04 “I really hope that’s not what’s going on, but with this desperate bunch of outlaws, I can’t discount the possibility. I think that’s what Ashcrack’s last warning was - I have a little more faith when it comes from Ridge’s office.” 3:02:45 PM 8/02/04
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