Economy UP

“Fact: Dow Jones Industrial Average close on 1/20/2000: 11,351.30

It closed yesterday at 11,011.90

bacpac says this is good.”

“None of which has anything to do with China diversifying away from the dollar and what that likely means for the US economy.


Don't cry for us Argentina...”

“The rich get richer until the poor get educated. I hope bacpacs education comes the hard way.”

“Economic Cliche's 101”

“The Chinese have started producing cars aimed at the U.S. market and displayed one at the auto show yesterday. The brand is called Geely and the Chinese automaker says it's supposed to be a basic, good car for ordinary people.”

“dow jones average = GORE'S NAVAJO WEED”

““The rich get richer until the poor get educated."

What a victim.”

“OK wingnuts - Time to do your deny reality/defend Dubya dance:

CPI hits 5-year high; pay fails to keep up

WASHINGTON — Surging energy prices pushed consumer inflation to a five-year high in 2005, outpacing average wage gains for most U.S. workers, the Labor Department reported Wednesday.

The department's consumer price index, a widely followed inflation gauge, rose 3.4 percent last year, the fastest rate since 2000, largely reflecting climbing prices for fuel oil, gasoline, natural gas and electricity, the department said.

However workers' average pay rose more slowly. Average hourly wages fell 0.5 percent and average weekly earnings declined 0.4 percent, after adjusting for inflation, in the 12 months that ended in December, the department said in a separate report.

Last year was the third year in a row in which real weekly wages fell, according to department data for the nation's 92 million private production and nonmanagerial service workers, who account for more than 80 percent of the work force.

"We're just not seeing the improvement in living standards you'd expect" in an economy that is expanding at a healthy pace and benefiting from rapid productivity growth, said Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute, a think tank that focuses on labor issues. "It's the biggest problem in the current economy."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002748087_cpi19.html
last edited: 1/20/06 11:47:13 AM”

“Ok, I'll take a shot. It's Clinton's fault.”

“Strange. Me and everybody I know is doing much better than 3 years ago.

Sorry if you guys aren't. That's some tough luck. New home sales and consumer spending has been awesome in recent years. You poor guys.

Oh, by the way, how are those home improvements going Violin?”

“Let's see here; Violin is sitting at work screwing around on the internet posting stories about how bad the economy is? Anyone see the pattern here? The economy would be a lot better if company thieves weren't steeling time from their bosses. Back to work lazyass! LOL!”

“LMAO!”

“I guess the Bureau of Labor Statistics figures must be wrong three years running.

No problem then.”

“Gotta love that "screw everybody else; I got mine" attitude...

Did they teach you that in church?”

“I wish our economy was up here in Michigan. Our governer and legislators are implementing a plan that will slowly shift us from a manufacturing economy to an unemployed economy. So far the results are amazing.”

“Tilt, screw who exactly? More people are working than before. Less people are out of work and getting screwed. Some people like myself think more highly of a greater number of people having work and being able to feed their families than the "have's" getting more money.

In church we don't learn that wealth buys happiness. Maybe you'd differ with my church.”

“The upcomming real estate broom will take care all these little perkers. In 2005 ,50% of first time buyers bought into houses with nothing down and at outrageous prices and adj. loans.”

“The upcomming real estate broom will take care all these little perkers. In 2005 ,50% of first time buyers bought into houses with nothing down and at outrageous prices and adj. loans.”

“People being able to afford housing is bad. They should live in tents.”

“living in a tent rocks!”

“Ford to lay off 25,000 workers today.

Bill Ford had this to say:

“Ford Motor Company was solidly profitable in 2005 and growing around the world. The next chapter in our history will be remembered for a renewed commitment to innovation and as the time we moved boldly to prepare Ford’s North American business for global competition.””

“Damn unions!”

“All of those execs that have no purpose don't belong to a union. The unions are a problem, but with no unions the horrible product that rolls out isn't going to get better until the betterment of this country is considered first.”

“The betterment of this country isn't going to happen when people are forced to pay their workers more money for less productivity. Freedom first. Remove competition for the jobs, and there is no progress, no freedom. Of course, I could be wrong - butt wait - Japan is kicking our butt. China of all places is getting into the act - we're laying off workers. Is that a better country?

The workers who supported the unions asked for this. I don't feel sorry for them.”

“how is the union doing at Burchick Construction.”

“Ewker - Should I report you to Matt for being a bad boy? You sure you want to go down that road?”

“for what?”

“Did the unions design those hunks of crap?
The unions don't directly raise health cost out of sight.
Allways blame the slaves when the wall falls over ,it certainly couldn't be a bunch of last century idiots with full pension and lifelong health care that got lost on their venture into the auto past.”

““for what?” - Ewker

Sorry, I thought you weren't stupid. My bad.”

“From what I heard in the news Ford's problems are the same as GM's. Lack of sales, vehicles that people don't want and high healthcare costs pushing the price above the competition. The workers aren't to blame for those problems. Healthcare in the U.S. is run by employers and the government wants it that way so how are the workers at fault for that? The assembly workers don't design the vehicles so that's not their fault if they don't meet consumers needs.”

“again for what?”

“salebored - Think about what you're saying. You think there are so many rich bosses that it's been at the cost of the poor workers? If that's the case, why are you complaining? With so many rich people running around, hey! That's a good thing, right?

The reality is the tens of thousands of workers at ONE company are overpaid and overcompensated and underproducing.

Why?

"Unions."”

“Ewker - My suggestion to you is to call Burbchick and ask them yourself. You know how to use google to find their number, right?

Tell Susan you'd like to speak with me.”

“They aren't wanted not because of their design. It's because of their cost and their quality. This is common knowledge.”

“if you got something to say to me email me, you have it”

“Quality is more than just assembling parts. If it's not designed right it doesn't matter who puts it together. I'll bet that many parts are outsourced anyway. Parts or preassembled units can come from just about anywhere with globalization. Toyota outsources 70% or their parts and casts the engine blocks in Korea.”

“Ewker - If I want to say something to you, I'll call you. In the meantime, stop attempting to post personal information on Matt's website. I don't think that's a road you want to go down.”

“you know all about those roads don't you

I didn't post any personal information. I asked about a union at a company.

You commented "Damn Unions" when BB posted about Ford. You made a comment about a union and I did the same.
last edited: 1/23/06 8:13:15 PM”

“Ewker - I'm done with you. Don't play dumb. You're obviously trying to stir up trouble.

If you want to know about that company, call them and ask them. Why would you post that particular company here and ask me what I thought of it? If you want to know, call them and ask. Why ask the board about that company?

Oh yeah, I know ... the trouble thing.

I'll call you at home if I have a question for you on a personal nature, you can call the company if you have a question for them. Simple.

Now, no need for you to break any more of Matt's rules online, right? Posting of personal information that is not deemed public information will not be tolerated and the offending post will be removed.
last edited: 1/23/06 8:21:02 PM”

“"Posting of personal information that is not deemed public information will not be tolerated and the offending post will be removed"


I believe that is public information that can be found by Google”

“Like I said, you don't want to go down that road. ... Or do you?”

“is that a threat??? maybe you need to reread T of P”

“*yawn*”

““Stupidity is better kept a secret than displayed.” —Heraclitus of Ephesus”

“Stick Sarge in the 'He can dish it out, but he can't take it column.'

What a sissy.”

“bacpac -

Why don't you post personal information about yourself here since you're not a "sissy".

Where you work .. were you live, etc.

Are you a sissy?
last edited: 1/24/06 7:11:18 AM”

“never mind bacpac - I looked through the threads and just realized you're a troll that's been around a long time. Apparently nobody knows who you are, so since you don't want anybody to know your personal info, I'll assume you already know you're a sissy by your definition. cya! *ignore*”

“Ewker- Burchick Construction has won some nice awards despite their union workers. How? I don't know. They have done some beautiful work.



And once again we are being lead to believe one thing by Buddha through is continued use of partial quotes and non linked stories. Very intellectually dishonest.
last edited: 1/24/06 7:39:04 AM”

“Bacpac is Bacpac. He's bonefide.”

“LOL - way to go, Ewker! Just a little prodding (or should I say puppet mastering) and Sarge goes down in a childish fit of histrionics. I'm almost sorry he put me on ignore. He's so fun to goad, the poor little guy!”