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What is the best way to stretch my 30 degree sleeping bag to below 30?
I have been thinking about a liner, or a bivy, or just wearing long underwear and fleece. What is best in your opinion?
LtHiker
1:32:32 PM
3/13/03

Share with a friend? Good friend.
vc2
1:34:04 PM
3/13/03

LOL not an option on this trip.
LtHiker
1:34:39 PM
3/13/03

Liner with long underwear, or fleece top and pants. Fleece cap helps too.
bitpusher
1:47:43 PM
3/13/03

get a second bag and double bag it
HogOnIce
1:54:16 PM
3/13/03

hey Lt,

(daaaamn, another gear thread?! Shame on you!)

I have a 5 degree bag that I stretched to work in negative 17 degrees for the FYAO trip. I used a fleece liner and used a goretex bivy for an overbag.

I was sizzlin' HOT!
>:D

Anyhoo...the fleece is supposed to add 10 degrees and the bivy "claims" another 15+. Also, my bag is super warm to begin with. (Western Mtneering)

Most important - don't forget to double up your ground insulation!
AmyG
1:57:30 PM
3/13/03

Do you think that it is better to wear the fleece or get a liner? Or is there a dif?

Yeah Amy someone told me this was a backpacking board so I thought I would ask some questions.
LtHiker
3:04:01 PM
3/13/03

I think wearing the fleece would probably work better, based on my experience. But you might also get too hot.
bitpusher
3:06:39 PM
3/13/03

I think doubling up or bivy. I believe that you should try and wear the lightest amount of clothes so your bag warms up all over inside. When I am too bundled up, I get cold spots problably due to circulation being restricted.
BigPoppa
3:12:09 PM
3/13/03

Rent a bag.
bacpac
4:26:19 PM
3/13/03

Get a dog. I be fo'real shawt!




"I was sizzlin' HOT!
>:D"
~AmyG

You little braggard, you!
;ob
gojo
4:41:12 PM
3/13/03

You just can't stertch a 30 degree bag to be just as comfy in -30 degree temps. Spend the bread and at least buy a Zero-degree bag!
Capn Bobo
4:45:20 PM
3/13/03

... or you can starch the stertch!
Capn Bobo
4:47:13 PM
3/13/03

Yeow!
I once stretched the sterch.
It wern't a perty sight...
gojo
4:53:59 PM
3/13/03

sterch=stertch

(I thought that looked a little shorter than I remembered)
gojo
4:55:35 PM
3/13/03

I am just trying to get my 30 degree bag down to about 15 for a spring trip that I think is going to be alot colder than I thought. I am definately going to get a 0 bag for next winter so I can go on FYAO 4.
LtHiker
6:34:31 AM
3/14/03

LtHiker, I made a forty five degree bag warm enough for 28 degrees last weekend by wearing two hundred weight fleece clothes and slipping my sleeping bag into a poncho liner, folded in half and tied. It was cozy excepting for the times the poncho liner would shift.
Sassafras
6:40:04 AM
3/14/03

boil water and put it in a nalgene in the bottom of your bag.
this adds unbelievable warmth. wear socks and a hat and long underwear and keep some extra stuff ready to throw on. it's hard to say since im not you and i don't know how you sleep.
if you have the smaller nalgene bottles put it in a sock before you put it in your bag. that'll keep it still almost hot when you get up in the morning.
i have a 25 bag and used the water bottle on a 10 deg night and ended up stripping down to my undies. i also used it one night when i was in bsf with binks and smokeygirl and i got so dam hot i had to take the bottle out of my bag.
ductape
6:45:29 AM
3/14/03

What's the best way?
Learn to not be such a wuss :)
hyway
7:05:54 AM
3/14/03

Now Sass,

You said that first night was cold. I never heard the word "cozy" the next day. It is funny how the more time goes bye, you forget how bad things are. By next month, the story could be, you were so warm, you decided to sleep outside. ;)
BigPoppa
8:01:17 AM
3/14/03

Hey, I slept so I was warm enough. Definately would've been more comfortable in my 25* bag though. =P
Sassafras
8:10:44 AM
3/14/03

Alright here is my plan. Chemical heat pack or two for the foot pocket, wear long underwear and a hat. Have a Fleece pull over, pants and gloves ready, and a down vest , just in case. I tried this all last night and with everything on it did not seem to compress things much.
I don't expect it to be much below 30 but I have never pushed this bag even to 30, so I just don't know. It is a Marmot Never Winter and I sleep warm. I would just hate to be shivering all night if it does get really cold.
LtHiker
8:26:40 AM
3/14/03

use a balaclava or a ski mask instead of a hat.... stays on better.
dirtyoldman
8:37:20 AM
3/14/03

Good Ideas All!

Thanks
LtHiker
11:24:18 AM
3/14/03

Hey Lthiker, try a theraheat pad, instead of a chemical heat pack. The theraheats are larger and last eight hours. They're made to stick onto your body, but can be applied to another surface (sleeping bag).
Sassafras
11:33:03 AM
3/14/03

Cool, I just got one in the mail as a sample a couple weeks ago.
LtHiker
11:39:35 AM
3/14/03

Ladies?

We hope this will not only help prevent global warming but also provide a little fashion chic to the office," Triumph's Japan branch said in a statement.

Who the hell is going to wear this thing to the office?!
treebait
10:50:32 AM
11/09/05

It was in the context of the Japanese government encouraging businesses and individuals to turn their thermostats down this winter.

Without this new piece of technology, things might get a little nipply around the office...
bitpusher
12:53:16 PM
11/09/05

Funny but breasts rarely get cold, being right over the heart and all.

Microwavable gloves might be a good idea.
Sassafras
12:58:34 PM
11/09/05

I wouldn't want to burn my nipples.
Twinkle Toes
1:01:31 PM
11/09/05

Microwaved gloves on my hands, my hands on...yah that might work.
bitpusher
1:08:44 PM
11/09/05

i was wondering the same thing, treebait! it would be pretty obvious from the "scarf" thingy that you were wearing it...just what every girl wants, all the skeezy guys in the office knowing what's covering her bazooms. LOL!
lyra
1:11:48 PM
11/09/05

bazooms?
lyra has bazooms?
I thought it was baboons!
StoveStomper
1:16:50 PM
11/09/05

1. Like you go to the office.
2. Like they don't already know.
3. Yes, I'm picturing you in this contraption, lyra! lol....
bitpusher
1:17:32 PM
11/09/05

LOL!! bitpusher, consider yourself a skeeze.
;-D

both of the above, Stovie!
lyra
1:25:25 PM
11/09/05

A great idea.
A lot of homes in Japan are unheated. Other folks find the cost of heating too expensive. I suspect they may be healthier avoiding heating. They do wear warm clothing and use warm comforters on their beds. And some find a spouse or companion can provide warmth during the winter nights. I did my best to help some of them keep warm whenever I was in Japan. During the 80's I visited in Japan 15 times. My average visit was about two weeks.
last edited: 11/09/05 1:31:04 PM
nowslimmer
1:29:29 PM
11/09/05

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