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Hammock or tarp for AT?View Messages“I've been out of town four a bit so I'm just getting int this discussion. I spent my first two nights in a hammock on the Red River Gorge trip. It was good to try it at a low-ish temp for reference sake. I know Binks says he has slept fine in his at 10 degrees, but I don't see that working for me. The nights at the Red got down to 27-28 degrees and I was pretty cold in my tarp. My set up is a Ultralight Backpacker Asym and I used Sgt Rock's "car window screen" idea and a 3/4 ridge rest on top of it, and a 20 degree sleeping bag. I'm not sure what the cut-off is for me but I did learn "below 30 pick a new shelter." But that's just for me, everyone is different. It was very comfortable to lay in, though. I will continue to test it this year. If it performs well, and is as comfortable to sleep in as I hope, I will use it during appropriate mounths on my thru-hike next year. The model I have weighs 1lb 15oz + 2 stakes. I figure this is about the same as a 8'x10'tarp + 4-6 stakes + bug protection + sleeping pad + ground cloth (tyvek). Not sure what I'm going to use during the colder months. I'm thinking about something from Wanderlust. If I HAD to pick one shelter for the entire trip? For me, three possibilities - Wanderlust 2-4-2, Shires Tarptent with floor, maybe a Stephensons Warmlight (if it breathes enough). But that's just what I think now. I'll probably have a differnet opinion next year after I've finished the Trail.” 5:37:18 PM 3/16/03 “Hope to see you on the AT. The plan is to start at the bottom of Springer on the 3rd of march. Starting on that day to commemorate a thru hiker that is helping me prepare. Thanks for the advice on the hammock. Now I don't know what to do. I know I want a shelter that can keep me warm, so it looks like I will have to get both the tarptent, and the hammock. Think the hammock would be great for car camping if I do any traveling this summer, and on the AT. But it would be nice to have a little more insulation for a "just in case" situation.” 7:02:23 PM 3/16/03 “hiker if you are have the cash... down filled air mattresses are a proven proformer in hammocks but run about 150.00 and weigh in at 3 pounds. They are said to be extremely warm and comfy on the ground as well. http://www.exped.com/exped/web/exped_homepage.nsf/agMyMenu.jsE?OpenAgent&Language=E Also rumor has it that a solution to the cold problem is in the works at hennessy and is expected soon...” 3:41:54 AM 3/17/03 “Almost forgot.... OLE! :}” 3:43:03 AM 3/17/03 “ick.... No way can I pack a 3 pound ground pad in. Though it does sound very very nice!! I think the cold issue is the only one holding me back from getting one.” 3:48:58 PM 3/17/03 “Here's a link to a home-made solution that someone posted recently. I hope to make one to try next winter. http://www.thru-hiker.com/workshop.asp?subcat=5&cid=72” 3:56:05 PM 3/17/03 don't be a pansy, carry 3 shelters “i'd say the hammock would be great for when it's warm enough. only problem there is you won't have a pad should you decide to stay in a shelter anyway. unless you don't mind carrying a little extra weight. i know binks carries his around just for the chair option. bottom line, you're probably gonna end up getting more than 1 shelter.” 4:29:50 PM 3/17/03 “hmm, that quilt design looks warm, but it looks kinda big. I think the problem is I don't know what I want. Wait, yes I do. I want a hammock that keeps me warm and weighs no more than 2 pounds. For some odd reason I don't think thats gona happen.” 5:25:58 PM 3/17/03
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