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Yeah, sunday my friends and I will be headed to Times Squar to a suport the troops demenstration to counter act the anti war protest on satuday.
Ice Tea
10:45:50 PM
3/21/03

I'll be wearing my "Friends don't let friends vote democratic" t-shirt.
Ice Tea
10:46:20 PM
3/21/03

This thread was a hit.
Ice Tea
11:20:09 PM
3/22/03

Good for you Tea, more people should support the troops. I guess people don't want to be labeled as a war monger.
stanlee
3:21:13 AM
3/23/03

I believe in that every one should stand for something. Anti or pro, I respect. It's the swiss that I have no respect for.
Ice Tea
7:20:59 AM
3/23/03

That's great Ice!!! :-)
Artex
7:27:08 AM
3/23/03

Ice Tea it’s great that you went out to show support for the troops, but don’t fall into the trap that just because someone is against the war means that they are against the troops. You can be against the policies of the administration and still support and have the utmost respect for the people who serve, as I believe the vast majority of the anti war protesters do. No one hates war more than the people who have to fight it.
must hike
7:42:35 AM
3/23/03

Good man, Ice! I shoulda been there myself. I support the troops, and I support the war- It's fine for all these people to denounce it for all their different reasons, but where were they while Saddam was torturing and killing his own people? Sure, people were protesting that all along, but not in the numbers we saw yesterday. If nothing else, at least something is being done about it, and that, to me, is the bottom line.
Corporal Nasty
8:02:03 AM
3/23/03

Tea, we arent against the troops. I for one served in the navy and so have most of my relatives. Even though I consider war to be inherently immoral it is not the war itself that I object to but rather the reasons behind it.

I do find much of the protest to be a joke. I dont think Bush is going to care what hindus, Palistinians or the special intest groups that are dominating the marches really think. Defacing public monuments and starting fights hardly seems like a good idea for a peace rally either.

Personnally the war has started and for better or worse, it is too late for us to stop it. History and god will judge our actions now.

"It is too late for the pebbles to vote once the avalanch has started." - Kosh , Vorlon ambassador
dirtyoldman
8:50:32 AM
3/23/03

DOM
Ah, another Bab5 fan.
treebait
9:00:02 AM
3/23/03

What's the Vorlon's stance on the war, anyway?
Corporal Nasty
9:01:15 AM
3/23/03

Not sure about the vorlons but The shadows are definately for it. I suppose this means the vorlons would be against it...
dirtyoldman
9:12:10 AM
3/23/03

Where were thes protestors when Saddham let loose with all the oil, killing thousands of plant and animal life forms in the Persian Gulf? Why where thy not out raged when it took many years for that oil slick to go away, only to return years later?

I think that if the protestor found out who was sponsering these "marches", they would be thinking twice about being tied to commine and radical arab organizations. I have NO problem with people marching for what they believe in, just make sure you know who is buying your lunch.....


SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. MAY THEY KICK SOME ASS QUICKLEY AND GET HOME!!
laqtis
9:18:37 AM
3/23/03

Yeah, what Q said.

And if you happen to run across any of those wacko's burning a US* flag, be sure to save the flag by dousing him/her and the flag with water.



*The author does not condone this practice for burning French flags. I those cases, let it burn!
Buddha Bear
9:27:19 AM
3/23/03

Q, the gulf war was a different matter and it is a shame we didnt finish it then and there but that was ten years ago...the justifications for this war are far different. You are right about us kicking ass and getting home at least.
dirtyoldman
10:24:06 AM
3/23/03

DOM - What I'm refering to are the "Granolas" in California protesting this war and in turn are supporting an eviromental criminal. I do not believe you can have it both ways. Be consistant!
laqtis
11:25:59 AM
3/23/03

Saddam will be more motivated to commit environmental crimes now than ever before. We know what happens when rats are cornered.

Has there been a demonstration organized to specifically support the troops but does not take any position on the war? I don't think I've heard of one.
Tilt
12:27:08 PM
3/23/03

Realists don't need a rally to promote realism. The stark reality is, peace protesters don't have a clue what reality is.
Buddha Bear
1:32:19 PM
3/23/03

Buddha Bear
I'll bet that the POWs being beaten are saying people like you don't know what the reality of war is. You just sit at home and watch war on tv. Why aren't you serving in the military?
Alaska
1:50:22 PM
3/23/03

I'll bet the people being beaten over there aren't saying that at all. They're busy with many other thoughts at the moment, such as rescue and their loved ones. Why aren't you serving in the military, Alaska?
Corporal Nasty
1:59:58 PM
3/23/03

Alaska
FINALLY, the ole' "why don't you fight if you think so much, ddadadadada" bs that liberals always fall back on.

I'll tell you why, dumba$$. My foefathers made the choice to defend our country, our interests and our security many times, so I wouldn't have to. The people serving now voulnteered to fight a war if need be. Should my country ask me to fight for it, I will GLADLY do so. At this time, due to my age, and the fact that we seem to be doing just fine without me, I'll continue to be productive for the country in my job, and denouncing misguided souls like yourself.
Buddha Bear
2:11:41 PM
3/23/03

Skip it. pray for our troops and vote your conscience in the next election.
Phaedrus
2:15:41 PM
3/23/03

Exactly, BB. People like Alaska are quick to ask that question in a war where it's not even a relevant issue- There's no draft, the army's all volunteer, just because you support the war doesn't mean you have to put on a uniform and go over there. And what about you, Alaska? If you're against the war, then why aren't you over there as a human shield, since you're asking people to put up?
Corporal Nasty
2:19:18 PM
3/23/03

This discussion is no longer about the war, guys. You've all turned it into a character-bashing contest.
Phaedrus
2:21:55 PM
3/23/03

Yes,
and I'm winning.
Corporal Nasty
2:25:12 PM
3/23/03

I was in Gainesville this past weekend. There were anti-war protestors on the corner of 13th street and University Avenue on Saturday. This morning, my brother and I went running and ran past that same corner. The protestors signs were on the ground and in the bushes.

Protestors = litter bugs. Yeah, I really respected their opinion even more after I saw that. I hope they burn in hell.
Artex
2:27:34 PM
3/23/03

Same to you, Artex.
Phaedrus
2:28:43 PM
3/23/03

Phaedrus, you're a backpacker and you litter? Ouch dude, get your priorities straight.
Artex
3:21:44 PM
3/23/03

Buddha Bear
The members of the US military volunteered and took an oath to defend the USA and the Constitution. They didn't volunteer to invade a sovereign country which has not attacked the USA. If anyone other than Bush were president, this war wouldn't be happening.
Alaska
3:26:03 PM
3/23/03

LOL! That reminds me of the scene at the draft board in Alice's Restaurant:

"And I walked over to the bench there ,and theres group W, which is where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother Rapers. Father Stabbers. Father Rapers! Father Rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on bench next to me. And the meanest nastiest uglyest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' nasty 'n' ugly 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said "Kid, what ya get?". I said "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage.". He said "What were you arrested for?" and I said "Littering". And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and gave me da hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said "And creating a nusance.". They all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime,mother stabbing, father raping all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of things...
pedxing
3:31:48 PM
3/23/03

Riiiiiiiight.
Anyone who signs up for the armed forces knows they could end up going to war. This country might not have directly attacked the US, but they did support the terrorist attack. What do you think would have happened if Gore had been elected? Can anyone, as the leader of a nation, allow an attack like 9/11 to go unanswered?
Corporal Nasty
3:34:32 PM
3/23/03

Corporal Nasty
I don't think anyone can imagine what this police action in 2000, let alone what Gore would have done, had he been elected.


"What if" doesn't help us at this point.
stumprider
3:38:50 PM
3/23/03

Wow Doggie!
Corporal Nasty: The attack of 9/11 was answered by attacking the country that sheltered and supported the terrorist organization. That made good sense to me - although I am afraid the Bush administration is busy trying to grab defeat from the jaws of victory there.

Sadam and Osama were never buddies. In fact, Osama offered to help drive the Iraqis out of Kuwait after the invasion. There is no good evidence that Sadam provided any support for anything Al Queda did leading up to (or including 9/11). There isn't evidence of any real cooperation since then, either - although I can imagine that Sadam - desperate despot that he is would have done anything he could to suck up to Al Queda once he was sure Bush was gunning for him.
pedxing
3:41:06 PM
3/23/03

I agree, SR. The "what if" actually belonged to Alaska when he said that no one other than Bush would have started this war. The bottom line is we're at war now, and nothing done in the past, nor any amount of hypothetical thinking can change it. I, for one, think that in any situation, you have to do your best and not boo from the sidelines.
Corporal Nasty
3:44:02 PM
3/23/03

ped - the group of terrorists that are linked to Al Queda where bombed last night. To not kick these terrorists out of your country = support. It might be concidered a reach to some, not to me.
laqtis
4:04:20 PM
3/23/03

Exactly, Q.
Corporal Nasty
4:12:25 PM
3/23/03

The Bush Administration has claimed Al Queda terrorists are in dozens of countries, particularly Saudi Arabia. Yet America has cozied up to Saudi Arabia.
Alaska
4:18:57 PM
3/23/03

I love the peace protesters that get arrested...
On Sat at times square 16 peace protesters where arested. On sunday ZERO troop supporters where arrested.

Hummm...
Ice Tea
5:14:17 PM
3/23/03

Alaska -- whats to say there not next for pressure?
laqtis
5:21:05 PM
3/23/03

im going to start a movement to protest the protestors who are protesting the protestors of the war. all you war-protestor-protestor-protestors, lets protest-protest-protest!
2scoops
5:59:11 PM
3/23/03

i would also like to add my support to those who support our troops. i will be a troop-supporter-supporter. now, who will support me?
2scoops
6:01:02 PM
3/23/03

The road to hell is paved with anti-war protestors.
ULTRAPecker
6:04:09 PM
3/23/03

I have to admit though, some of those war protestor chicks are hotties.
Buddha Bear
7:39:19 PM
3/23/03

Probably stoned flower childs.
stanlee
8:47:15 PM
3/23/03

Q: The terrorists in Iraq that are linked to Al-Queda are in Kurdish areas over which Sadam's government has no control.
pedxing
8:55:17 PM
3/23/03

Well Tea, according to the papers 150,000 anti-war protestors were out without getting arrested. 600 pro-war protestors were out without getting arrested.
pedxing
9:49:46 PM
3/23/03

"Booing from the sidelines" is a long and honored tradition here, Corporal.

No dissent without democracy; no democracy without dissent.
Tilt
9:54:44 PM
3/23/03

ped -- a man as brutal as Saddam should be able to take are of business any where in his country. He's allowing it.
laqtis
11:04:06 AM
3/24/03

There is no good evidence that Sadam provided any support for anything Al Queda did leading up to (or including 9/11).

Sorry PedXing, you're wrong. Here's the evidence:

Mutt
11:21:57 AM
3/24/03

"Why of course the people don't want war - that is understood. But, after
all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is
always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy,
or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and for
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

~ Hermann Goering -Nazi officer, during his Nuremberg war crimes trial.
roseymonster
11:24:18 AM
3/24/03

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