Bush making America safer in the future

“"Clinton, the terrorists, who else you going to blame, FDR maybe? the Plames?

Anyone but the people in charge?”

No hockey helmet. I blame the terrorists.”

“Yep it was the the US goverment's fault because they are the right. Not the state or local goverment which is the left. Never not in a million years would it ever be the left. Yet when Florida and Texas get hit by a Hurricane things are in place to lessen the loss of life and areas are evacuated. Both States are ran by the right.”

“America obviously doesn't deserve leadership at these times. Under attack on 9/11, fly as far away as you can! Hurricane about to hit New Orleans, everybody go on vacation or maybe buy some shoes.
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InconvenientTruth

I don't think it was his choice to fly way as far as he can. Lets remember DC was not a very safe place to be in on Sept. 11th Or did you forget a plane hit the Pentegon. The course of action taken would have been taken no mater who was in office in order to perseve the chain of command.”

“Who should we blame for the WTC attack?”

““MarkO is so silly.
Klinton had 8 years, did nothing, Bush had 8 months, all the while Gore was disputing the election, and the Dems would not approve Bush's government picks.”
SSLOL

More lame-ass excuses.....”

“Silly Dim MarkO”

“More lame-ass excuses.....”
MarkOTheBeast

At least we have excuses. What is your's "8 years nothing done" as said by the post you qouted.”

“Who should we blame for the WTC attack?”

“moon it is Bush to blame. I mean the left wouldn't have it any other way.”

“What? Bush wasn't even the President when the WTC towers were attacked in 1993.”

“ah that WTC attack. Well it was the elder Bush then. You know because he kicked Iraq out of Kuwait. And Saddam may have gassed his own citizens but it was the Elder Bush's fault too.”

“"At least we have excuses. What is your's "8 years nothing done" as said by the post you qouted."
rEDeYE

Hmmmm, I quoted an idiot.
What's your point?”

“MarkO if you remember the Clintonistas blocked a number of nominations until Well into February. This means departments did not have their staff selected until February or March. Most transition teams go into action by December and begin getting a feel for the game WELL before inauguration.

Then again in the Clintonista version of life...it is what you say without reference to history, time or reality.

What I want to know is why didn't Slick go after the terrorists after
1. WTC 93
2. Khobar Towers
3. Embassy Attacks (Kenya?)
4. Cole atack

Come on I know getting blown and watching TV is exciting for most of the Free Money Liberal Socialists (and Clinton was one of the biggest of the bunch) but you would expect Slick to understand that his primary job is to Defend the Constitution.”

“LMAO!!!
MarkO calling me an idiot.

How's that low paid, pink collar, book shelving career coming along, MarkO?
Still living off your wife's superior earning?
LOL”

“You're quite a nasty little guy aren't you Stove Stomper.”

“LOL...you're a nasty LITTLE (thats what the girls say) TROLL....Incomprehensible Truth”

“Yep, as nasty as MarkO calling for me to kill myself, and saying he was glad my house was damaged from Katrina, cowardly troll.
[VBG]”

“XL - maybe what's best for America in the future is for people like yourself to make an honest assessment of where the war on terror has gone wrong in the pst five years. That way these is some hope of putting things right.
With no accountability from these guys there's no hope of things improving in the next two years.
I don't think the military, which does America so proud, can afford another two years of being let down by their political masters.”

“That nasty cowardly troll used honest in a sentence?!?!
LMAO!!!!!”

“I hope Osama is reading this, he'd be proud.”

“Dang, I must have offended StoolShoveller!
Your elitism just oozes.

Go ahead numbnutz, I have a family.
What do you have, cats?

Only the lonely......
Dumb-dumb-dumb, Dumb-dee-doo-whaa....
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“LMAO!”

“Marko incase you haven't figured it out I'd be flasher (you know my non-halloween name). Just so you don't think I'm some little troll.”

“hey guys how about that new Intelligence report that confirms all those crazy predictions the "libsocialists" have had for three years now.

crazy!

p.s. this report is a compendium of all the major U.S. Intelligence agencies' heads. I even posted the link from the highly biased, liberal trash rag: The Christian Science Monitor.

enjoy!


http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0925/dailyUpdate.html


edit: haha i like the part where the white house 'strongly disagrees' with the report. thank goodness we've allocated all that money for homeland security... lol.
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“oh and my point was that we have excuses. but the left doesn't. I think I stated that pretty clearly. But incase I didn't here it is one more time


AT LEAST WE HAVE EXCUSES. What does the Left have.”

“AT LEAST WE HAVE EXCUSES. What does the Left have

only children make excuses when they mess up, adults apologize.

on that note, you only need either when youve made a mistake.

keep on making excuses. looks good on you.”

“But the left makes niether so what does that make them. Come on mjw tell us. The left points fingers. Now come one which one is more childish.”

“you should probably comment on that intelligence estimate as opposed to trying to continue down a line of poorly executed rhetoric.

are all 16 heads of the intelligence agencies pointing fingers? sure looks like it. lets all wonder why that may be the case...
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“Everybody hates America but me. I am so cool and silly libbies are so dumb.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

[VBG]

;-)”

“salebored and nigal have great points.

Pointing fingers at everyone but the terrorists is displaced anger, maybe even frustration at our inability to control the situation.

Screaming at Osma just doesn't seem to cut it, eh?

I guess I should thank Nixon for his declaration of War on Cancer while millions should curse his name for failing them.”

“you should probably comment on that intelligence estimate as opposed to trying to continue down a line of poorly executed rhetoric

Ok smarty here's my comment. Can these people prove that we are anymore or less at risk today than say back in 1993 when the WTC was bombed, or when the USS cole was bombed. No they can't why because no study was done back then. Maybe what you don't understand is these people of islamic religion HATE us. They hated us back in 1993 and they hate us today. To sit around and say we gave them a bigger reason to hate us now is kind of dumb. Likes like saying Ohio State and Michigan are a bigger rivaly this year vs last year because they are ranked.

I mean think logicly here they bombed us attacked us and flew plans into our buildings when they hardly (I'm not saying they didn't)have an excuse to be mad us.

I just like how people think that if we pull all of our troops out of the mideast that tomorrow we'll be living in a safer world.”

“Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Coast Guard Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy
Department of Homeland Security
Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
National Security Agency
Navy Intelligence

so you're saying theyre all wrong?

has the libsocialist machine invaded all the highest ranking levels of intelligence chiefs in the united states?

i thought we were told that the iraq "war" plan was central to the war on terror? how can we bomb a country and occupy it for three years, only to have all 16 intelligence agencies say that the problem with terrorism is increasing?

should we keep on bombing everywhere? is that the plan?

edit: people need to stop making sports analogies with issues of international diplomacy. just my opinion.
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“Libbies are so silly.”

“youre ignoring some pretty heavy stuff here, stove stomper.

you can continue to ignore it until i call you a retard, at which point you can deride me for being an "elitist", or you can show yourself, and everyone else, that you do in fact deserve to be on my level of discussion by, well, discussing this issue.

know what i mean?”

“Did I say they were wrong? Please point where I said that. What I said can they prove that we are more or less safer today than back then. And can they show that if we never invaded Iraq and only invaded Afghanistan that they couldn't make the same case.

I mean a study that was done without a similar study done earlier to compare is kind of silly. That would be like me going out to the factory floor and changing a process and saying its better with out ever finding out if it was worse.

Further more we find more terror cells today because we are actually looking for them. And to think that they haven't increased their forming of new cells as we take the offensive is just dumb. In all wars there is an increase of recruits.

I'd like to here someone’s argue that if we done nothing after 9-11 that we would be safer today.

Also like people really sat back and thought that if we through out and evil Dictator that gassed his own citizens that we wouldn't piss off a few of his followers.”

“I'm bringing my message down to a level even MarkO and the nasty trolls might be able to understand.
LOL
[VBG]”

“edit: people need to stop making sports analogies with issues of international diplomacy. just my opinion.

Oh and that's your opinion and your entitled to it.
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“so invading iraq did make the world a safer place?

i thought the iraq war has been the central battleground in the war on terror?


....ok, you didnt say they were wrong (in those words exactly) but you did heavily imply that what they are claiming is absolutely relative (and here i thought that conservatives opposed all sorts of relativism?).
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“Did it make it unsafer. Would have sitting back and doing nothing make it safer?

We could make study after study proving the case one way or the other.”

“Please don't feed the nasty trolls.
Just make fun of the cowards. LOL
[VBG]”

“are you saying the united states military and all of its intelligence branches make these reports for no reason and are filled with worthless information?”

“Please don't feed the nasty trolls.
Just make fun of the cowards. LOL - StoveStomper




man, you sure loved those Nazi's didnt you. It's almost as though you are as blind as all that followed them! and you love it! thats pretty awesome. you must have incredible faith.

:D


"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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“It really hurts when you call me a troll Stovie, we being twins and all. Are you upset because Mom loved me best?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

[VBG]

;-)”

“Did I say the reports are worthless. I'm sure they are worth what they are printed on at the least. ( I'm poking fun now)

No what I said is making a report so say you are worse off now than before when you have nothing as far as a compareable report to show how you bad or good it was before is silly. Reports like this just wasn't done back then (refering to 1990 up to 2001)”

“Meh, this is all empty blather until more facts behind the report are known. Right now, I'm suspicious that the "conclusions" being bandied about by the Left are even valid in context of the report. But of course, they're sure they're right because they read it on the internets.”

“lol Mutt. thats funny
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“Reports like this just wasn't done back then (refering to 1990 up to 2001)
-redeye
===


National Intelligence Estimates have been produced since approx. 1946.
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“Meh, this is all empty blather until more facts behind the report are known.
-Mutt
=======


the opening section of the report is titled
Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement.
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“to the extent the are now. Don't think so. Well troll I'm done feeding you for today perhaps we can pick this up tomorrow.”

“lol ok

you totally ignored about 85% of my questions.

its cool if you're too scared to answer them. i understand. nobody likes to figure out that they are the target of treachery by the people who claim to be their leaders.
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