Bush making America safer in the future

“Mouthy little cowardly troll, isn't it?
LOL
[VBG]”

“hahah stovestomper, nothing pertinent to say huh. no defense even. just persistent nazi tactics.

im sitting here, attempting to have a legitimate discussion.

but then you come on with your name calling, and finger pointing.

are you sure you're not a closet leftist?
last edited: 9/25/06 2:55:37 PM”

“I'll say he says I didn't answer any of his questions but I didn't see him answering any of mine either. Its fun to play the game back with them you just keep asking them questions. I wonder if you can actually piss a troll off by doing that.”

“mjw untill tomorrow when I want to resume play this is all I see

message from mjw666 being ignored

Feel free to post away and we'll play again tomorrow.”

“the opening section of the report is titled
Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement.

So what?”

“so theres a good chance that the chapter isnt about the shrinking global jihadist movement.

i mean whatever, i guess we just cannot rely on US Intelligence and must put all of our faith/money/reliance on the gut feeling of one ex-drunk, coke-headed, C student from an elitist ivy league university in the northeast.

you're right.”

“Did it make it unsafer. Would have sitting back and doing nothing make it safer?

We could make study after study proving the case one way or the other. - red eye

no it wouldnt have made it safer, it would have kept it less dangerous and allowed it to remain stable. take your pick as to which one is preferable.

im sure WE could make a study saying that the earth is flat if we wanted to. but we dont make those studies. this is the government itself saying that a certain situation has made things worse. this is the national intelligence estimate.

why should it be ignored?”

“people need to stop making sports analogies with issues of international diplomacy. just my opinion.

So no more arm chair quarterbacking?

LOL , could resist...”

“I wonder if you can actually piss a troll off by doing that.

I wonder if you can piss a troll off without actually reading anything he writes. lol”

“so theres a good chance that the chapter isnt about the shrinking global jihadist movement.

Yeah, without any additional hard info, that's about all you can make of it.”

“i wonder if you can piss off a conservative by constantly reminding him of the facts

:D”

“wonder if you can piss a troll off without actually reading anything he writes. lol”
moonglo
3:38:35 PM
9/25/06

I can! I can!

LOL
[VBG]”

“Yeah, without any additional hard info, that's about all you can make of it.

and thats all you have to make of it to render your previous comment regarding the "validity" in context to be declared moot.

remember?

Right now, I'm suspicious that the "conclusions" being bandied about by the Left are even valid in context of the report. But of course, they're sure they're right because they read it on the internets.

thank you for proving my point.

the jihadist movement is spreading as a result of destabilization in iraq.”

“Is the little cowardly troll getting pi$$ed yet?
All I see is " message from mjw666 being ignored".
LOL
[VBG]”

“If you lurk for a while you'll see that Stove Stomper never deals with facts. He just deals in name-calling.

mjw - if you want a discussion then you're really wasting your time with StoveStomper.

He calls you a troll but you've raised more valid points, right or wrong, in a single post than Mr Stove Stomper manages in an entire year.”

“What? You mean LOL and [VBG] are not valid points? o:=”

“Mr Stove Stomper's contribution to a discussion of perhaps the biggest challenge facing America at the present time.

“MarkO does hate America.”
StoveStomper
6:44:41 PM
9/24/06

“Username: InconvenientTruth
State of residence: Maryland
Member since: 9/24/06


Silly Stupid troll.”
StoveStomper
7:14:27 PM
9/24/06

“Why do you hate America, MarkO?”
StoveStomper
7:27:25 PM
9/24/06

“Bubba Bear hates America most of all.”
StoveStomper
7:49:44 PM
9/24/06

“Feel the Love from all the Hate filled libs.”
StoveStomper
8:33:26 PM
9/24/06

“Cowardly troll = big talk = little #&%!$”
StoveStomper
9:29:40 PM
9/24/06

“silly bear.
I don't hate trolls.
Trolls by definition are cowards.
last edited: 9/24/06 9:44:05 PM”
StoveStomper
9:42:05 PM
9/24/06

“Why does it need to hide if it's words have merit, steve?
Doesn't 'hurt' me because it's words have no value coming from a coward.”
StoveStomper
9:49:15 PM
9/24/06

“silly bear, that is your job. ;-)

ALL trolls are cowards.
I've said that many times, so what you have said is not a true statement.




....Trolls by definition are cowards.
last edited: 9/24/06 9:44:05 PM”
StoveStomper
9:42:05 PM
9/24/06

What part of this did you not understand?
last edited: 9/24/06 9:53:41 PM”
StoveStomper
9:50:44 PM
9/24/06

“Cowardly troll.
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
9:56:44 PM
9/24/06

“Trolls by definition are cowards.



bear, bear, bear.....
What part of the above excludes certain trolls?

silly mtnsteve”
StoveStomper
10:04:51 PM
9/24/06

“Silly Libbies.
Feel the Love.”
StoveStomper
7:50:54 AM
9/25/06

“MarkO is so silly.
Klinton had 8 years, did nothing, Bush had 8 months, all the while Gore was disputing the election, and the Dems would not approve Bush's government picks.”
StoveStomper
9:32:54 AM
9/25/06

“Reality is not a word libbies like markO and kleent understand very well.”
StoveStomper
9:54:21 AM
9/25/06

“Silly kleetn.”
StoveStomper
10:02:11 AM
9/25/06

“Isn't it ironic that a cowardly troll called InconvenientTruth wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit it on the a$$.
LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
10:24:59 AM
9/25/06

“Silly Dim MarkO”
StoveStomper
11:01:33 AM
9/25/06

“LMAO!!!
MarkO calling me an idiot.

How's that low paid, pink collar, book shelving career coming along, MarkO?
Still living off your wife's superior earning?
LOL”
StoveStomper
12:02:03 PM
9/25/06

“That nasty cowardly troll used honest in a sentence?!?!
LMAO!!!!!”
StoveStomper
12:25:27 PM
9/25/06

“Libbies are so silly.”
StoveStomper
2:10:15 PM
9/25/06

Libbies are so silly.
“I'm bringing my message down to a level even MarkO and the nasty trolls might be able to understand.
LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
2:20:40 PM
9/25/06

“Please don't feed the nasty trolls.
Just make fun of the cowards. LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
2:24:56 PM
9/25/06

“Mouthy little cowardly troll, isn't it?
LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
2:52:05 PM
9/25/06

I can! I can!

LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
3:41:37 PM
9/25/06

“Is the little cowardly troll getting pi$$ed yet?
All I see is " message from mjw666 being ignored".
LOL
[VBG]”
StoveStomper
3:50:05 PM
9/25/06”

“Not to worry guys, Trail Talk's resident sissy calling real men cowards isn't even worth an LOL.

He also continues to skate free from the rules of participation demeaning others with impunity.

Hmmmm?”

“MarkO works as a librarian's aid (pink collar) and he calls me a sissy.
He thinks cowardly trolls are 'real men'!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
[VBG]

"He also continues to skate free from the rules of participation demeaning others with impunity." - MarkO
Just like a stupid liberal. Blame others for your own sins.
What's the matter marko? You like to dish out the crap but cry like a little baby when you get it back. Some 'Real Man' you are. You keep up the crap and I'll keep dishing it back.”

“Hey InconvenientTruth!
You are a cowardly troll.
LOL
[VBG]”

“Sure is easy to count the ignored Stovie post.”

“Ha ha, that's cute, SS.

Are you researching me.....stalking me??
Do you want my home address?

You are trying to demean me by ridiculing what I do for a living.
I don't care.....

You are a bitter old maid of a "man" lashing out.

I must admit weakness though in even answering any of your "hate accusations".
Maybe you would stop if I ignored you........aw, WTF, this is fun in a sick sort of way.

You really make yourself look like a twit.”

“HEY NOW! I work part of my job with the county in a toy lending library for less fortunate families. I go on the record to state: I dislike terrorism. I love America. I'm no fan of Clinton or liberalism, but I work 3 hours of my day running a toy lending library and my collar ain't pink. So THERE! :Þ pllllttthhh!!!”

“I'll post this here as well I guess as it seem appropriate.

“Can't you stop this - your incessant political rants and liberal obsession are ruining this site and driving people away.
100 posts a day calling people silly libbies, cowards or telling people they hate America is getting old really fast.

I like political debate - but you seem to be turning this site into your personal place for venting your hatred for everything you consider to be 'liberal' - there must be a politics forum you can take this stuff to.

There's a place for politics here, but this is getting crazy.””

“Cute how you are trying to make yourself into the victim. LOL

I'm doing nothing more that returning tit for tat.
If you can't take it, don't deal it out, crybaby.

Who repeatly said I was dropped on my head as a child? You.
Who told me to go kill myself by drowning myself? You.
Who expressed pleasure at my home damage from Katrina? You.
Who expressed the wish for me to have homosexual sex? You.

It never fails to amaze me how you think you can say anything, without getting anything back. You have made so many slurs against me they are to numberous to list.

You are an ignorant foolish twit. A real a$$hole.

Keep the crap up. You will get plenty back and more.”

“Why do these men hate America so much ???

"US Army chief defies budget cut"
By Tom Baldwin

"Top soldier challenges Donald Rumsfeld over cutbacks that will leave forces billions of dollars short


DONALD RUMSFELD, the US Defence Secretary, is facing a new challenge to his authority after the US Army’s Chief of Staff refused to submit a budget plan for 2008 in protest at the demands the Pentagon is placing on America’s overstretched military.
General Peter Shoomaker’s behind-closed-doors challenge was disclosed yesterday as another wave of criticism was launched — this time at a forum conducted by Senate Democrats — from a group of ex-Generals who have already called for Mr Rumsfeld to quit after six years as Defence Secretary.



General Schoomaker took the highly unusual step last month of delaying submission of the Army’s budget plan, arguing that the service requires either a much bigger budget than the Administration has proposed or relief from some of its worldwide commitments.

The Los Angeles Times reported yesterday that General Schoomaker was seeking $138.8 billion (£72.5 billion) for 2008, or nearly $25 billion more than the limit originally set by Mr Rumsfeld. The Army’s budget this year is $98 billion.

The overstretch is hitting troops serving in Iraq the hardest. The 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division, is being extended in Iraq because the unit that is scheduled to replace them — the 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division, needs more time to prepare. If it had deployed as scheduled, it would not have had the minimum 12 months at home between combat tours.

The 3rd Infantry has already served two tours in Iraq, including the initial invasion of the country in March 2003.

The Army has an active-duty force of about half a million soldiers. About 400,000 have done at least one tour of combat duty in Iraq or Afghanistan and more than one third of those have been deployed twice.

Yesterday three retired military generals bluntly accused Mr Rumsfeld of bungling the war in Iraq, saying that US troops were sent to fight without the best equipment, and that critical facts were hidden from the public. “I believe that Secretary Rumsfeld and others in the Administration did not tell the American people the truth for fear of losing support for the war in Iraq,” retired Major General John Batiste said".



Rest of story

Perhaps they love it, but hate whats been done to it
last edited: 9/25/06 10:24:04 PM”

“Ha ha ha ha, gotchya!!

"Who told me to go kill myself by drowning myself?"

You are losing it, my friend.

Don't listen to those voices.”

“Cute how you are trying to make yourself into the victim. LOL

I'm doing nothing more that returning tit for tat.
If you can't take it, don't deal it out, crybaby.

Who repeatly said I was dropped on my head as a child? You.
Who told me to go kill myself by drowning myself? You.
Who expressed pleasure at my home damage from Katrina? You.
Who expressed the wish for me to have homosexual sex? You.

It never fails to amaze me how you think you can say anything, without getting anything back. You have made so many slurs against me they are to numberous to list.

You are an ignorant foolish twit. A real a$$hole.

Keep the crap up. You will get plenty back and more


OMG somebody call the wahhhhmbulance


another missed opportunity for stovestomper to express a rational political opinion.

tell you what mang, youre doing a heck of a job of making sure any rational discussion fails to take place. is that your goal?

thats what terrorists do.
last edited: 9/26/06 7:58:52 AM”

“Yeah 666, ya think I pissed him off enough to quit shovelling his crap on me?

Hmmmm, not likely with a twisty #&%!$ like him.”

“WOW..take a day off to go to a funeral and this happens.
mjw, Incomprehensible, et al, the real facts are that starting in 1992 (following the most successful execution of military operations in American History) the military began a giant downsize. I had friends who were some of the finest Combat Officers there were. They were replaced slowly by politicians. The very fact that General Schwartzkopf was in Southern Command during Desert Storm was a miracle. He had been sent there in the late 1980's as a retirement post. Thank God we had him and not this string of post Clintonista Gay boy Generals we have had in Iraq.

We are still suffering the effect of the Clintonistas from the separation of intel sharing (Gorelick memo) to the failed transfer of information...face it Sec Rice said Clinton lied...who do you believe...a her or a man who lost his law license for...PERJURY?”

“XL wants it both ways(OUCH!!).

Any and all negatives are the responsibility of Clinton and positive outcomes are more glory for his beloved Fuhrer, Busch!

Who's in charge?”

“LOL..we can now declare victory...MarkO has called us Nazis (LOL)....really are your potential responses to the reality of the history so vapid that you drop to calling names. It is obivious that you have not even a nanite of understanding of the Fascist or Nazi History.
Silly little Libbie”

“XLOLOLOL, "MarkO has called us Nazis"

I did not call anyone a Nazi.

Maybe you're just feeling guilty?

Fuhrer means leader........period.

Take it any way you like, Bo Diddley.
Just don't lie and put words in my mouth.

Silly little wingnut!”

“LOL...so if I call you a Gacy, that just means you are a clown right?

We all know the reference to the German Usage of the term leader.”

“Gacy??
I don't think Gacy's "clowning" was the issue here.
Was it not murder and buggery?
Murder being the far worse than mere buggery!
Gacy is a proper noun and that would imply "murdering buggerer"......not nice!

Now if I had called you "Hitler" then you could assume I was calling you a Nazi, also a proper noun.

You're a nasty little Hun, Atilla!”

“LOL..Until they found John W Gacy had "friends in Crawl Spaces" he was admired for his clown activities to help the sick in children's hospitals.

So JW...(LOL)...I know you will live up to the name.”

“John Wayne was a big jerk!”

“Marko,

If you wasn't trying to imply that the right is nazis by saying the word fuhrer then why didn't you just say the leader bush. Fuhrer is a German word plain and simple and typicly refers back to Hitler.

That would be like someone saying n!gger and trying to say then saying its not race slur.”

“You're way off Monseiur RedEye.

Ha, did I just call you "French"??

Senor?”

“füh·rer also fueh·rer (fyrr)
n.
A leader, especially one exercising the powers of a tyrant.”

“?Little toe broken???

Soak your head for 10-15 minutes and that should clear right up.?
MarkO
2:01:42 PM
7/12/06”

“nope you didn't but the two words you presented makes one think french and spanish. Both are words of a man a normal man typically. You gave the word of a tyrant the most famous one being Hitler as many people even called him by that term and not his name durning the war.”

“Spanish, French, Germans, Hitler...Heck give me them any day of the week over a bunch of Silly Knights of the Round table and Tim....”

“You guys still messing with the cowardly trolls?”

“LOL..we can now declare victory...MarkO has called us Nazis (LOL)..

im calling you, and stovestomper, and to a leeser degree moonglo, nazis.

your repeatedly make use of the same tactics that herman goering waxed philosophical about in the nuremburg trials.

or you can call me a coward again :D


edit: waiting for someone to deny the holocaust happened
last edited: 9/26/06 9:56:51 AM”

“Blow me, RedEye!

Ha StoveBob!!

It took you a while to find it!
You're way too sensitive and your personality disorder is gettin' out of hand.

Shock therapy......that's it!!

How many cats do you have?”

“Proven Liar.”

“stovestomper does not trust the armed forces to make intelligence reports but does trust them to blow things up

who is the animal?”