Dear Mr. Rumsfield

“Since it was brought to America's attention that we will be responsible for the rebuilding of Iraq, if and when your war is over, and that it will take approximately 5 to 6 years to accomplish this task, I have a suggestion. Instead of assigning 100,000 plus US Troops to Iraq, and keeping them away from their families any longer, why don't you send the following personnel instead?

"The number of people in U.S. prisons and jails last year topped 2 million for the first time, driven by get-tough sentencing policies that mandate long terms for drug offenders and other criminals, the government reported Sunday."

This makes more sense to me...save our tax dollars for something more credible and worthwhile. This will then open up the prisons for those of us who will end up homeless because of your responsibility.”

“send that to him. He has had a very stressful month, he could probably use a good laugh.”

“Good one, hyway.”

“Ah, so that's the employment policy of the Bush clan....






...send thousands of people to Iraq!



Hmmmmm,...any job for a jobless male with a PhD? ;-}”

“I hear the prison industry is going like gangbusters... No Puns! LOL

Kind of like Uncle Sugar's version of the Mariel Boat Lift? Hmmm.

But I wonder… What would the private prison industry do to replenish their
stock (<G>) of not-so-violent criminals? O Well, I'm sure they can convince
their clients in various legislatures to criminalize something else to tide them
over.

Rummy has been getting pretty big for his britches, lately, hasn't he? What's
with this recent crop of off-the-cuff threats he's been dispensing from the
Pentagon? Who does he think he is? Ari Fleischer? <G>”

“i think the most funny thing is how Rummpelstiltskin gets so offended when anyone asks a question at those press talks. It's like he's insulted by every question. he sounds like a little baby.”

“He doesn't offended at questions. Just stupid questions. Reporters ask lots of stupid questions.”

“true...reporters do ask really dumbass questions at times, but Rummie does sounds like a whinney little biotch.”

“dumb ?'s like: Who's gona pay for this,are we gona have troops in Iraq in the year 2055,were's Osama?
Get off the dumb question thing and start wondering why we let these idiots in office and why more action to stop them is'nt happening.”

“no, dumb questions like "Who informed you that hussien might have been in that bunker?" "At what time will American forces attempt the bridge crossing tomorrow morning?" or any of the umpteen hundred questions that are all different versions of the same question that he had already made clear he wasn't going to answer.”

“As the President is getting off the helicopter in front of the White
House,
he has a baby pig under each arm.

The Marine guard snaps to attention, salutes, and says: "Nice pigs,
sir."

The President replies: "These are not pigs, these are authentic Texan
Razorback Hogs. I got one for VP Cheney, and I got one for Defense
Secretary
Rumsfeld."

The Marine again snaps to attention, salutes, and replies, "Nice trade,
sir."”

“Good one Ped. Good to see your sense of humor's still intact.”

“Thanks Geo - a sense of humor matters more in tought times, than easy times.”

“I know that only too well Ped.

Here's one to give you a chuckle, or a belly laugh:

While visiting England, George Bush is invited to tea with the Queen. He asks her what her leadership philosophy is. She says that it is to surround herself with intelligent people. Bush asks how she knows if they're intelligent.
"I do so by asking them the right questions," says the Queen. "Allow me to demonstrate."
Bush watches as the Queen phones Tony Blair and says, "Mr. Prime Minister, please answer this question: your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your brother or sister. Who is it?"
Tony Blair responds, "It's me, ma'am."
"Correct. Thank you and good-bye, sir," says the Queen. She hangs up and says, "Did you get that, Mr. Bush?"
Bush nods: "Yes ma'am. Thanks a lot. I'll definitely be using that!" Bush, upon returning to Washington, decides he'd better put the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to the test. Bush summons Jesse Helms to the White House and says, "Senator Helms, I wonder if you can answer a question for me."
"Why, of course, sir. What's on your mind?"
Bush poses the question: "Uhh, your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your brother or your sister. Who is it?"
Helms hems and haws and finally asks, "Can I think about it and get back to you?"
Bush agrees, and Helms leaves.
He immediately calls a meeting of other senior Republican senators, and they puzzle over the question for several hours, but nobody can come up with an answer. Finally, in desperation, Helms calls Colin Powell at the State Department and explains his problem. "Now lookee here, son, your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your brother or your sister. Who is it?"
Powell answers immediately, "It's me, of course."
Much relieved, Helms rushes back to the White House, finds George Bush, and exclaims, "I know the answer, sir! I know who it is! It's Colin Powell!"
And Bush replies in disgust, "Wrong, you idiot, it's Tony Blair!"”

“ROFLMAO”

“I like that one, too Geo.”

“Little Johhny takes a tour of the White House with his 1st grade class. Because he drew the shortest straw, he was the lone representative of his class to get to speak with Def. Sec. Rumsfeld, V.P. Cheney, and President Bush.

As he sat down in front of Rumsfeld, he kept nervously rubbed his little hands together. AFter a few minutes of conversation, Rumsfeld asked, "Johnny, why are you rubbing your hands like that?"

Johnny replied, "I'm making a defense secretary."

Rumsfeld amusingly said, "oh really, with what?"

Johnny replied, "#&%!$"

Rumsfeld: "That was not nice Johnny, maybe you should visit VP Cheney now.

Johnny then went to Cheney's office, where he sat there, rubbing his little hands together. Soon, Cheney wondered if something was wrong..

Cheney, "Why are you rubbing your hands so much Johnny?"

Johnny, "I'm making a vice president."

Cheney, "Ha, ah, that's nice. What are you making it with?"

Johnny, "#&%!$"

Cheney, "That is not nice Johnny, I'm telling your teacher you said that. Now go to the president's office!"

Johnny went to GWB's office, and as he arrived a secret serviceman whispered something in Bush's ear, which resulted in a perplexed grin. Johnny was rubbing his hands furouisly.

Bush, "Hello there Johnny."

Johnny, "Hi Mister President."

Bush the said sternly, "I hope you aren't making a president with your hands by rubbing them like that young man."

Johnny, "No, I don't have enough #&%!$ to make a president."”

“Here's one the MSM forgot forgot to broadcast. It's about arrogance and stupidity, and why we're in the mess we're in. Anybody care to tell me why Rumsfeld still has a job?

September 8, 2006

FORT EUSTIS, VA -- Months before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld forbade military strategists from developing plans for securing a post-war Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said Thursday.

In fact, said Brig. Gen. Mark Scheid, Rumsfeld said "he would fire the next person" who talked about the need for a post-war plan.

Rumsfeld did replace Gen. Eric Shinseki, the Army chief of staff in 2003, after Shinseki told Congress that hundreds of thousands of troops would be needed to secure post-war Iraq.

Scheid, who is also the commander of Fort Eustis in Newport News, made his comments in an interview with the Daily Press. He retires in about three weeks.

Scheid doesn't go so far as calling for Rumsfeld to resign. He's listened as other retired generals have done so.

"Everybody has a right to their opinion," he said. "But what good did it do?"

Scheid's comments are further confirmation of the version of events reported in "Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq," the book by Michael R. Gordon and retired Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Bernard E. Trainor.

In 2001, Scheid was a colonel with the Central Command, the unit that oversees U.S. military operations in the Mideast. On Sept. 10, 2001, he was selected to be the chief of logistics war plans.

On Sept. 11, 2001, he said, "life just went to hell."

That day, Gen. Tommy Franks, the commander of Central Command, told his planners, including Scheid, to "get ready to go to war."

A day or two later, Rumsfeld was "telling us we were going to war in Afghanistan and to start building the war plan. We were going to go fast.

"Then, just as we were barely into Afghanistan ... Rumsfeld came and told us to get ready for Iraq."

Scheid said he remembers everyone thinking, "My gosh, we're in the middle of Afghanistan, how can we possibly be doing two at one time? How can we pull this off? It's just going to be too much."

Planning was kept very hush-hush in those early days.

"There was only a handful of people, maybe five or six, that were involved with that plan because it had to be kept very, very quiet."

There was already an offensive plan in place for Iraq, Scheid said. And in the beginning, the planners were just expanding on it.

"Whether we were going to execute it, we had no idea," Scheid said.

Eventually other military agencies - like the transportation and Army materiel commands - had to get involved.

They couldn't just "keep planning this in the dark," Scheid said. Planning continued to be a challenge.

"The secretary of defense continued to push on us ... that everything we write in our plan has to be the idea that we are going to go in, we're going to take out the regime, and then we're going to leave," Scheid said. "We won't stay."

Scheid said the planners continued to try "to write what was called Phase 4," or the piece of the plan that included post-invasion operations like occupation.

Even if the troops didn't stay, "at least we have to plan for it," Scheid said.

"I remember the secretary of defense saying that he would fire the next person that said that," Scheid said. "We would not do planning for Phase 4 operations, which would require all those additional troops that people talk about today.

"He said we will not do that because the American public will not back us if they think we are going over there for a long war."

Why did Rumsfeld think that? Scheid doesn't know.

"But think back to those times. We had done Bosnia. We said we were going into Bosnia and stop the fighting and come right out. And we stayed."

Was Rumsfeld right or wrong?

Scheid said he doesn't know that either.

"In his own mind he thought we could go in and fight and take out the regime and come out. But a lot of us planners were having a real hard time with it because we were also thinking we can't do this. Once you tear up a country you have to stay and rebuild it. It was very challenging."

Even if the people who laid out the initial war plans had fleshed out post-invasion missions, the fighting and insurgent attacks going on today would have been hard to predict, Scheid said.

"We really thought that after the collapse of the regime we were going to do all these humanitarian type things," he said. "We thought this would go pretty fast and we'd be able to get out of there. We really didn't anticipate them to continue to fight the way they did or come back the way they are.

"Now we're going more toward a civil war. We didn't see that coming."

While Scheid, a soldier since 1977, spoke candidly about the days leading up to the invasion of Iraq, he remains concerned about the American public's view of the troops.

He's bothered by the nationwide divide over the war and fearful that patriotism among citizens will continue to decline.

"We're really hurting right now," he said.”

“That's funny............if it weren't so sick, Buddha!”

“When I saw new posts on this thread I naturally assumed it was SSLOL and XLOL calling Brig. Gen. Mark Scheid a cut-n-run pu$$y. But Buddhist Bear comes thru in the clutch with photographic evidence!”

“Cut-n-run??

Don't forget communist traitor!!”

“Dang! You silly libbies already over your hangovers from celebrating 9/11?
[VBG]”

“I'm still hungover from celebrating the storm wrecking your house last year, Goober.
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“LOL
I must have hit a nerve.
MarkO was celebrating 9/11.”

“Now we've got a great debate going!

Uh, Stovie, since you're the leading expert on all things Bushie, maybe you'd care to tell us why Rumsfeld still has a job?

You're doing a heckuva job, Rummsie!
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“it's fun to quote (or better yet, paraphrase) people without context and try to use that against them”

“kleetn is so silly.”

“http://socaldem.smugmug.com/photos/29318130-M.jpg

LMAOWWMIADVSSOOMN!

(Laughing my arse off with wine made in a democratic voting state shooting out of my nose)

yeah, it's a new one.”

“yeah, it's a new one.”
Buddha Bear
6:13:55 PM

A bit early in the afternoon to be drunk.
A new what? That is the same dumb photo as the one you posted above, genius.
LMAO!!!!!!”

“i think he's talking about his asronym”

“Nawwwwwwwwwwwwww...........
Why would he post a stupid picture twice in the same thread and think it's hilarious both times????
LOL


Hey Bubba Bear! Did you really take bottled beer to a FYAO camp in sub freezing temps???
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL”

“Anyone else see the NBC report tonight that the Marines are basically writing off Anbar province in Iraq?

It's apparently unwinnable without another 40K to 60K more troops.

So, what are we going to do to get more troops?”

“well since cowards like SS won't enlist......”

“http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/12/world/middleeast/12anbar.html

We either need a draft, a national service program with a heavily subsidized military option OR we need to get the hell out and start building ethanol plants.

I like option #2, personally.”

“Soy beans to diesel

I love that picture!”

““well since cowards like SS won't enlist......”
Buddha Bear
7:20:41 PM

My excuse is age.
What's yours Bubba Bear????
LMAO

Beer in glass bottles in sub freezing temps??? Man, you are dumb.”

“You libbies are Draft happy.
Get over it.
The only way will have a draft is if the Dems take over.”

“hey stove ... remember when the dems were proposing a draft, and at the same time accusing the republicans of wanting to initiate a draft ... ???

LMAO! That was CLASSIC!!!

you gotta admit ... they have hutzpah”

“They pull that Draft crap out right before every election.
It's new to each MTV generation so the lie works.”

“When those who dissent are told time and time again — as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus — that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...

When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"... look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:

Who has left this hole in the ground?
We have not forgotten, Mr. President.
You have.
May this country forgive you.

Ouch. Keith Olbermann rips Shrub a new one”

“Who has left this hole in the ground?


kleetn thinks BUSH did it?
DANG! I thought two big hijacked passenger jets controled by terrorists crashing into the towers did it!
DUH!
You libbies truly live in a world of your own dreams.”

“Olbermann's main audience consists of his DU and KOS fan clubs, and we know how rabid they are.
To bad he's up against Fox's O'Reily time period with about six and a half times the ratings of Olbermann.”

“he has an impressive political resume, we could all learn from him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Olbermann

er ... maybe not”

“When those who dissent are told time and time again — as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus — that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...

How prophetic he was!”

“Very prophetic. We patriotic Americans have been saying that every day since Bush stood at the WTC site in 2001, but he somehow still guessed we still be saying it. No wonder you look up to him.”

“he has an impressive political resume, we could all learn from him Bill O'Reilly

er...definitely not”

“have you heard me give O'Reilly praise kleetn? take your time ...

PS - good one w/ the link! LOL
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“a lot of talkin' and not enough enlistin' going on here - cowards.”