Name that worthless Healthcare Company

“LMAO Buddha Bear! Where have you been?”

“LOL mabye he had a severe dissability”

“that is such a crock. he claimed emotional distress.

i can't get approval for my 'enhancements' should i want them.”

“I approve.”

“I guess it would depend on how small he was really. The need could be genuine and not necessarily cosmetic.”

“If his wing wang was less than an inch, than maybe. But I agree, that is a bit over the top!”

“So, according to that healthcare company, size DOES matter!”

“If he were unable to have sex then I think the need would be genuine. Or if it were so small as to cause pych problems.

errrmmmm, not that I can relate to this or anything ;op”

“LOL!!

apparently his 'boyfriend' thinks size matters......”

“not that there's anything wrong with that!”

“... not that Rick Santorum thinks there's anything wrong with that...”

“Starting sunday, many doctors, surgeons and specialists are walking off the job in this part of Fl. I've talked with some of my specialists about this, and the amount they pay each year for liability/malpractice insurance is excessive. About $850k per year per doctor for them.”

“We need to combine this with the climber who amputated his own arm thread.”

“Treebait, that happened in another state, Nevada I think. What a shame.”

“I was copying medical records for one of our patients and I noticed he had been referred for a penile implant. The reason he had to have the surgery was because he was in a car accident where his abdominal area and his #&%!$ were crushed.”

“yikes!!! i could see why your guy was approved.

but the other one. seriously. no medical reason other than he felt the size was emotionally tramatizing him.”

“The Great and Wondrous HMO that I belong to doesn't approve many drugs that people need, much less a proceedure like that.”

“eeeek!
Can you imagine being a guy, and waking up in the hospital with no dick?”

“Oooops. I thought that would be censored.
Sorry Matt.”

“Thats funny treebait because I used the P word and it was censored.”

“Remember where you are, Ladies... then it all begins to make sense.

LOL”

“Schiff: Healthcare Fix Is Simple
This'll take over where Tiltypooh left off.
Monday, June 29, 2009 11:09 AM

By: Julie Crawshaw Article Font Size

Fixing health care is simple, says Euro Pacific Capital president Peter Schiff, a possible contender for Democrat Chris Dodd’s seat in Congress.

"Given our current tax code, the simplest way to bring down medical costs would be to fully tax health care benefits as wages and simultaneously increase the personal deduction by an amount significant enough to neutralize the effect of the tax increase," Schiff writes in Taki Mag.

Doing so would accomplish two things. First, the uninsured would get a huge pay increase, enabling them to buy reasonably priced catastrophic policies.

Second, those currently insured could opt out of expensive employer-provided plans, trading premiums for extra wages, and then buy a more economical plan.

The savings would go right into their pockets.

The meteoric rise in health care costs is no accident, Schiff notes.

It arose from excess government involvement in the system; tax provisions that encourage people to overuse their health insurance; and government support of an out-of-control malpractice industry.

“Rather than allowing more bad policy to drive healthcare costs further upward, we should be looking at ways to allow market forces to rein them back in,” Schiff notes.

Approximately 160 million Americans receive healthcare benefits through employers, which typically spend upwards of 10 percent of payroll on health insurance for their workers.

According to the U.S. Department of Commerce's Bureau of Economic Analysis, that amounts to nearly $600 billion when taken in aggregate.

© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.”

“I guess I am missing the first point.

How will the uninsured get a huge pay increase?”

“They would get a pay increase by being able to take a larger standard deduction when they fill out their tax forms.

And I have no doubt all the uninsured would run out with their big fat tax refund and buy health insurance.”

“
Right.... 'newsmax' LOL

Shills for the insurance industry, like the townhall hecklers and thugs.”

“Only NYT, Time, Newsweek, CBS, CNN and PBS are acceptable?”

“And I have no doubt all the uninsured would run out with their big fat tax refund and buy health insurance.

LOL”

“They enjoy paying insurance companies 30 cents on the dollar to do what Medicare does for 3 or 4.”

“I think spiraling health care costs are due to the fact that we want to have it both ways - we want a market based health care system, but we don't want anyone to be denied care because they can't afford it. What this means is that prices are governed by supply and demand, but demand is not price sensistive.

To control health care costs we need to go in one of two directions 1) increased government controls, or 2) be willing to see people denied essential health coverage because they don't have the bucks. In other words, we have to have either more price sensitive demand (market mechanisms) or government mechanisms firmly in place.

The approach described in the Newsmax article would only work if we as a society would accept people not getting essential care if their insurance didn't cover it and they didn't have the bucks.”

“Let a laissez-faire system of supply and demand dictate healthcare pricing and the next question is: what are people willing to pay to stay alive?

Producing vaccines is not a cash cow for drug companies so the gov't has to step in. Do healthcare industry lobbyists want to scuttle that also?

What we seem to have these days is an explosion of hair growth formulas and d!ck pills. Are those our priorities?

The current system is headed over a cliff.”

“90 bucks for an IV that costs the hospital 70 cents
129 bucks for a box of kleenex

hospitals and doctors have figured out how to concoct a billing system that even they can't figure out. it makes it easy to bury absurd charges and at the same time impossible for people to find errors (which are common). all that as part of a chess game with the insurance industry who has to keep wall street happy. in the end the care of the patient has nothing to do with how the system is run, and THAT is what is really broken.”

“Remember this is only part of a final full solution. These subsidies; take the mortgage exemption, student loans, and on and on need to go along with all the others that lead to overuse and abuse.

The right wing has to start thinking of how much of the above is directly their pet projects.
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“'The current system is headed over a cliff.'

Good boy, lower case'C' on cliff, but where's the edge and dragons mouth?

In a conboomer society, I mean consumer society, one must be careful not to bad mouth others means of livelyhood.
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“T*lt is still sucking at the tit of Health Care from his doctor mama.”

“what a racket.”

“Speaking of which ----

I�ve just been reading about three different fake grassroots groups funded by the healthcare industry to disrupt meetings. Dick Armey�s teabaggers are broadcasting emails with instructions. It seems industry lobbyists can easily recruit handfuls of people who will do their bidding out of ignorance, anger or whatever.

Their arguments have no substance so this is what they resort to ----”

“UNION THUGS UNLEASHED...”

“Where is the evidence that the healthcare industry is funding these grassroot campaigns?

(queue crickets)”

“AND, let's say that Hitler was funding them, what difference would that make. The question is are the people getting involved in the grassroots campaigns, sincere? They most certainly are. If George Soros (no wait, he is funding MoveOn.org) ... If George Bush was paying for busrides into the cities, that doesn't diminish the fact that these people want to be heard.”

“Oh wait, I know ... the insurance companies are buying the magic markers and poster board ...

”

“There will always be people who will do the industries' bidding out of ignorance, anger or whatever.”

“So all these people have insider connections to the insurance companies, and are out to get them rich?

Maybe the insurance companies called up their customers and told them they'd get a discount if they protest?

Where is the money going to that you're claiming?

Are they paying FoxNews directly?

Are they paying Drudge?

Let us in on your secret.”

“I'm guessing at this point you're realizing that the Daily Kos does not give specifics.”

“Poor little doctor brat T*lt.”

“There will always be people who will do the industries' bidding out of ignorance, anger or whatever.”

“So, you're not willing to provide ANY information as to how you know the insurance companies are sponsoring these grassroot protests? Nothing? Not even a link to Huffinton? Come on TLLT.”

“T*lt is all knowing, like his Messiah.”

“There will always be people who will do the industries' bidding out of ignorance, anger or whatever.�
Tllt
12:17:30 PM
8/07/09


right. none of them do it because they actually feel that way themselves.”

“�They would get a pay increase by being able to take a larger standard deduction when they fill out their tax forms.

And I have no doubt all the uninsured would run out with their big fat tax refund and buy health insurance.�
ductape
5:18:27 AM
8/07/09

They won't get the refund until the buy the insurance. Thus, no pay increase, in fact it is a decrease, then they might get something back by way of deduction.

Jesus, and we thing the IRS code is too complex.

Example:

Person A makes $50K has no insurance premiums deducted and pay $10K (let's use 20% for discussion purposes) in taxes equals $40K net.

Person B makes $50K, pays $4k in premiums (before taxable income) so he has $46K at 20% equals $9200 in tax. Thus $50K minus the $4K minus the $9200 equals $36800 net.

Where is person A going to get his big increase in pay to be able to effectively have his insurance for free? When person B has to pay the extra $800 in taxes he gets a $800 lower deductible. Now if he practices good preventive medicine and doesn't burn the extra $800 in deductible, he just gets burned for $800.

Looks to me like person A really doesn't get jack schidt and person B takes it up the rectum if he is healthy and breaks even if he is sick.
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