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I mentioned earlier that you don't see racism (as in dating/marriage)against other races like you do against blacks. I think the long troubled past that blacks and whites have had and will continue to have plays into that.

You have to remember I was talking about when I got out of high school in 1968. Things were a lot different then than they are now.

Another thing kids see things differently than adults do until they grow up and become adults.
Ewker
11:49:38 AM
5/06/03

Nigal-
Well now, when it comes to cars, the French copy no one and no one copies the French.

Have you not expressed dislike for "The French"?
Tom Terrific
11:50:37 AM
5/06/03

I have to agree with Chili about racism being a product of the home environment. My son goes to a mostly black and Puerto Rican school and he is one of very few whites there. And in his class, he is the only white. He has had his share of being picked on and alienated by his classmates (kids of all colors can be cruel, too). He doesn't have a lot of friends and fends for himself a lot. So, if any child I know has reason to start spewing racial hatred, he does. He was also brought up in a household where you don't hear racial slurs of any kind. I have never heard anything of that sort come out of his mouth. Why is that, if not for his upbringing?
treebeard
12:02:23 PM
5/06/03

A few comments from a seventh generation Georgian:

I don't get a bit of flack for dating black women - not even from my poor-dirt-farmer-roots dad or redneck buddies.

Georgia's pre-1957 flag was based on the Stars and Bars. The subsequent flag - which was discontinued a couple years ago - featured the St. Andrew's Cross.

All the various Confederate battle flags stir deep emotions within me - none of which are the least bit racially connected.

The design up for vote now is the pre-1957. Whatever... this current "ugliest state and/or provencial flag in North America" has got to go.

Governor Barnes was booted out of office for "strong arming". He not only ticked-off heritage groups, he ticked-off teachers. We teachers were more instrumental than any other group in getting rid of the man.

During preplanning a couple years ago, one of our counselors - who is black - conducted a mini workshop explaining that we should expect different (from white kids) behavior from our growing black enrollment. She was right.


Question:
What's wrong with a bunch of kids conducting a prom where they don't have to suffer through 20 hip-hop songs to get their one and only chance to line dance?
gojo
12:20:59 PM
5/06/03

pedxing, I was referring to the fact that there are a lot of exclusive, private organizations out there that exclude on the basis of race, sex, religion, etc. Why should a private group not be allowed to decide that only white people may belong?
Mutt
12:35:35 PM
5/06/03

Pedxing, I was speaking mostly tongue in cheek, but I doubt that if I was a member of he NAACp that they would do any representing of me mor my causes. I suspect that I would be a name on the rolls of members. There are however a good many slights against males and whites and white males. Here in portland, they recently forced the local catholic boys school to allow girls, but do not force the girls catholic school to allow boys.

I guess my big point is that 'everyone" says "I'm being discriminated against" but no one wants to recognize the discrimination against whites or white males or males. Look at the way men are bashed on TV. If a woman, or other race was bashed, there would be huge backlashes. Mike Tyson was quoted once as saying "All I know is he's white, and he can't beat me". Let a white boxer say "All I know is he's black and he can't beat me" and you would see him as an instant racist. But not Iron Mike??

Back on my point: Why is it discrimination, unless it's against whites, males, or white males?
monkeyboy
1:04:56 PM
5/06/03

Ah... the poor downtrodden white male.
vIoLiN
1:06:40 PM
5/06/03

Racism is not a defacto result of home environment. Don't make the mistake of trying to simplify a complex and historical problem by injecting absolutes.
bacpac
1:08:04 PM
5/06/03

Correct to an extent, BP. But, it is an all important factor and should not be underestimated...
treebeard
1:09:59 PM
5/06/03

Well at least you acknowledge that it's a problem. I understand that is the first step.
vIoLiN
1:10:30 PM
5/06/03

Monkey, I understand what you are saying to the extent that...

...if white folks tried to organize an equivalent event to the 'million man march', then it would be construed as a KKK rally. And the reverse was not true, correct? But, the original point here is about a school prom, where kids are involved and a set of discriminatory values like that should have no place in it. A prom should be a single event in a single grade of a school. One prom for everyone in that grade. Not, one for blacks, one for whites, etc. See what I'm trying to say?
treebeard
1:13:43 PM
5/06/03

Ah... the poor downtrodden white male

So because white males have historically been the power holders in this country, they should not have the liberty to form groups that only include white males?
Mutt
1:14:44 PM
5/06/03

Why should a private group not be allowed to decide that only white people may belong?"

Mutt
12:35:35 PM
05/06/03

Several do. It depends on the extent they are engaged in interstate commerce or offer services to the general public.
chili36
1:16:48 PM
5/06/03

treebeard
Its importance should not be over estimated eiher.
bacpac
1:16:50 PM
5/06/03

Again, Mutt. Put which events you are talking about into perspectivve, as I tried to do in my post above...
treebeard
1:17:09 PM
5/06/03

Ok, BP. I don't have a hard and fast formula for this. I am only speaking from personal experiences and what has happened in my lifetime as well as my childrens...
treebeard
1:18:27 PM
5/06/03

A prom should be a single event in a single grade of a school. One prom for everyone in that grade. Not, one for blacks, one for whites, etc.

If the school-sponsored prom is integrated, why not allow the white students or the black students to have private proms based on race?
Mutt
1:19:32 PM
5/06/03

I suppose you could, Mutt. It's not against the law or anything. I just think that it is a step backwards in thinking and I wouldn't approach it that way myself...
treebeard
1:21:16 PM
5/06/03

Waddafuh? What did I do now?
Geobeet
1:24:18 PM
5/06/03

took you 69 posts to chime, ya sleepin' ole goat?
treebeard
1:24:59 PM
5/06/03

Simple solution....
Don't have any proms.
My high school didn't have one.

Any exclusion of groups of people (including "white males") from a public gathering is wrong.
StoveStomper
1:25:35 PM
5/06/03

Well I don't agree with it either, treebeard. But I have a feeling it's just a culture clash that was poorly advertised as a race issue. Maybe the white kids wanted to dance to country music all night, and the black kids wanted to dance to hip hop all night, and they wouldn't compromise.

I remember in high school there were always fights between the hicks and the 'urban' blacks. It wasn't all about skin color, or the hicks would've picked on the 'rural' blacks, and the 'urban' blacks would have picked on someone like me - which they didn't.
Mutt
1:27:52 PM
5/06/03

I have to go to our printing plant on Tuesday mornings. I ain't bothered nobody nohow.
Geobeet
1:30:03 PM
5/06/03

Could be, Mutt. Could be. I went through a lot of racial tension in my school when I went to Junior High and High SChool. That was during the racial tensions of the late 60's and early 70's. My son is experienceing a lot of that crap too.
treebeard
1:30:25 PM
5/06/03

No doubt there's a lot of racist sentiment out there. I've seen it at work too many times.
Mutt
1:34:09 PM
5/06/03

LMAO, it's about time you chimed in Slow Poke....I mean Geobeet.
skullcap
1:34:30 PM
5/06/03

Just like Geo to start something up and leave it for the rest of us to debate.
bitpusher
1:35:04 PM
5/06/03

Question:
What's wrong with a bunch of kids conducting a prom where they don't have to suffer through 20 hip-hop songs to get their one and only chance to line dance?"
~gojo

Well?
gojo
1:37:11 PM
5/06/03

Probably nothing Gojo. However, it seems racist. This is what happens when people talk and spread news like this. This type of event can and probably does take place. The problem is a few people talk and blow it out of porportion. Something like this can easily take place at someone's home, granted if it was big enough.
Wounded Knee
1:45:25 PM
5/06/03

I have no problem whatsoever with a no Hip Hop, no Country music dance. So when are we getting together? ; ) .
skullcap
1:57:47 PM
5/06/03

I wonder how much attention this would have gotten if it was a Black Only Prom...probably none.
Ewker
2:28:29 PM
5/06/03

crap acceptable behavior in georgia
what about the united negro college fund? i think i,m offended
mark43145
2:56:50 PM
5/06/03

"Have you not expressed dislike for "The French"?"

Uh YEAH! But this is not saying I'm supreior over them. I would figure someone like who has made more bubba, hillbillie, fat, republican (I'll give ya this one, on and on jokes that you can tell the difference between a joke and discrimination. I expect this type of stretching out of tilt, but not you. You seemed more pragmatic than that. And I mean that as a compliment. 8)
Nigal
3:24:55 PM
5/06/03

This subject was brought up on WET (White Entertainment Channel) during White History Month.
ULTRAPecker
3:32:45 PM
5/06/03

Since this thread is not about me, guess I'll mosey on home and cook up some ground beef to dehydrate.
Geobeet
3:39:41 PM
5/06/03

Y'all can have fun with the trolls though.
Geobeet
3:40:13 PM
5/06/03

No thanks, I'll pass.
skullcap
3:42:23 PM
5/06/03

You're flat busted, Nigal, and calling me names like to cover for your own shortcomings only reinforces my point.
Tilt
4:56:02 PM
5/06/03

OH OH! The fat man is back!
Wounded Knee
5:01:32 PM
5/06/03

like
Tilt
5:07:47 PM
5/06/03

Phuck the French...and tilt
"You're flat busted, Nigal, and calling me names like to cover for your own shortcomings only reinforces my point."

Beg your pardon? Sorry, but I don’t play the passive/aggressive thing and I don’t so innuendoes. If I think someone’s an a hole I say so. Play your word games all you like to stroke your intellectual ego tilt. I could care less…Ahole.
Nigal
7:05:55 PM
5/06/03

[awkward silence......]
stratdewd
7:43:21 PM
5/06/03

Dearest Nigal...
You have certainly captured the moral lowground. For the life of me I don't understand why you would want to, but congratulations... I guess (?)

Watch out for that flash flooding.
Tilt
8:46:44 PM
5/06/03

WET
good job ultrapecker,I cant wait to tune in tonight either,and since someone has mentioned it I have never seen a black backpacker either.Mabey its the carry a heavy load on your back thing,kinda like pulling cotton out of an asprin bottle thing.hard to say.But I cant really remember when a bunch of white people rioted and tore the hell out of something to make a point.
mark43145
8:52:52 PM
5/06/03

I still don't want The Chicks to disgrace Dixie by using the name......look away Dixieland
Jello Fog
8:55:12 PM
5/06/03

WET
like to talk more on this subject but Amos and Andy is coming on.
mark43145
8:58:14 PM
5/06/03

WET
Yessarr Mr. Benny!
mark43145
8:59:45 PM
5/06/03

'tention,,tention,,, Kmart shoppers paging Mr.Stevehike paging Mr. Stevehiker.


Funny, ain't black the absence of color!!!!

I think alot of white people are fed up with being held hostage with this whole slavery issue.

Did anyone mention the all black proms?
Peter Glideswell
9:52:05 PM
5/06/03

i saw a blackpacker once.
2scoops
10:47:58 PM
5/06/03

I think the white kids are entitled to have their own type of prom if they want. On the other hand, the kids maybe should have put off a separate prom this year due to Iraqi war. People of all colors died. We were all in it together.
lipstick hiker
12:01:56 AM
5/07/03

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