Why the econimy hit the fan in 2000

“Strat: I don't have problems with the tax cuts as being un-democratic. I think they are unfair and destructive.

Eliminating the inheritance tax (the so called "death taxes") when the first few million would have already been tax free is the one that still gets my goat.”

“Good points by Buddha.

Still, if innuendo were still allowed, I would have been had some colorful things to say about the last line of his 7:24 AM post.”

“Robin Hood was doing it all wrong - apparently. He must have stifled economic growth in the 12th Century no end ;o)”

“"ok, how bout funding art?...it's the BS that i have problems with..."~Strat

You should be aware that studies have been done which show children who have their art classes cut out of the cirriculum do worse in other subjects. Art is an essential ingredient to culture and should be supported by your tax dollars.”

“where EVERYONE got a $300 rebate wasn't enough to give the economy a real bump, especially after 9-11.


stratdewd
11:59:28 PM
05/21/03

hmmmm, that wasn't a rebate, it was an advance on the next years taxes. BTW I really do like getting an extra $ 1.50 per payday or $ 3.00 a month.”

“And strat, you criticise certain fundings. I agree these things should always be reviewed, but I think as every backpacker will testify too, life's not just about the money.”

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“"Robin Hood was doing it all wrong - apparently. He must have stifled economic growth in the 12th Century no end ;o)"
ynamiynami

robin hood stole from the government(the sherrif of notingham), not from the people.

FOOL!

ped says those mean ole rich dead people don't need their money that has already been taxed 2 or 3 times, and neither do their kids......moral ? i think not.
tax cuts are dustructive? geesh dood, welcome to 1989......i need my soma.....

typical liberal hypocrisy.....”

“At least your spelling is improving.”

“If you look into GW's past, you will see that he was a party to theft by legislation. His sports conglomerate was given power of imminent domain and tried to condemn property at way below market value to build the Texas Rangers stadium.
His brother Jeb defaulted on a loan to a savings and loan, helping cause it to fail. When the SEC, which happened to be full of Bush appointees, fined him 50,000, they let him keep the building that he did not pay for. 50,000 is not a bad price for over 4 million worth of debt.
Neil Bush helped bring about the savings and loan crash, also.
Forget cutting taxes. Give me the tax money that I paid to bail out the Bush family and I'll have way more money than GW is giving me in "tax cuts".
By the way, we are still paying for the savings and loan bail out.”

“"ok, how bout funding art? how bout layers of wastefull berocracy? how bout billions missing every year? how bout medicare fraud? how bout letting people choose what school they go to? funding planned parenthood? PBS? i could go on and on. highways and bombs and schools and fire/police are good. it's the BS that i have problems with...

stratdewd
11:59:28 PM
05/21/03"

It sounds like you are against government waste, not taxes. Although I don't agree with everything you have on your list, I agree that the way our government appropriates a lot of our money is moronic.

You aren't talking about a tax problem but a spending problem.

One of the first things Clinton did as president was try to cut out a lot of frivolous spending at the White House and was promptly ridiculed by the conservative media.

I guess how things appear depends on which side of the fence you are standing on.”

“media yes it's true that spending is the root of the problem. i don't agree with your clinton statement however. conservative media? yeaarright.....

my point is, this tax cut is tiny and surely we could cut spending a little to "pay" for it". the vast majority of the forst bush cut hasn't even kicked in yet.


dan, your hatred for the bush's will never allow you to give him credit for anything, therefore you have been ejected from this debate....”

“Thankyou for the ejection, Strat. I don't hate the Bushes. I just don't like that they manipulate government to their own advantage and then say that they are against "big government". They just want "big government" their way.
There are a lot of items that could save us money. Like all of the Republican legislators taking a big cut in pay to help reduce the cost of government. What day is that going to happen?
Here is a suggestion that should be part of law-making on Capitol Hill. When you write a bill concerning defense, social security, or any other subject, the bill should be solely about that. Too many misappropriations happen as "tack-ons". We could save ourselves a ton of money if Joe Senator or Billy Representative had to try to pass a separate bill to get the funding for a model train park in his hometown.”

“Here's a radical idea.
How about when someone who bails out of the company that they just wrecked with a big payoff and cost the American people more money in the last three years than all of the taxes that they have paid in their entire lives, they have to spend the rest of their lives paying us back? Kinda like a white-collar life sentence. We would have some pretty powerful money makers working for us right now.

Oh, I forgot, they have too many Republican buddies in Washington. Skip that idea.”

“In the final analysis, no one has a clue how the economy really works.”

“Some people have a clue, Mutt. In fact, from my "small-business" perspective, it is really very simple. It's when you get to the size that you can "over-state" your profits that it gets a little hazy.”

“Stratdewd - I could get insulted by being called fool, but coming from you it'the irony is just comical.
"He stole from the Rich to give to the poor." - remember that part?”