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the original thing I've brought is the way AND timing - Sarge

No, your timing is your only original claim. Your future-tech scenario has been hashed to death, and I think that's what's got people chuckling.

In the early 90s, you would not be able to show me ONE company that was advertising their URLs in any t.v. ad, magazine, billboard, etc - Sarge

LOL - Pizza hut started online orders in '94, and that's just one off the top of my head. That's when Internet commerce really started to take off. I remember because I was taking tech courses in Grad school, about to finish my Masters at the time. Anyway, it was no big stretch of imagination that it was going to take off.

What else evidence would anyone need? - Sarge

That you actually made the predictions back then.
Mutt
10:08:55 AM
2/19/08

Predictions from Sarge being endured
salebored
10:13:01 AM
2/19/08

hpm
I totally agree, there are many futurists, many people who make predictions, who have made guesses about future technologies. Some are accurate, the vast majority are not. All I'm saying (and this isn't about my accuracy - except that it has been accurate thus far) is that these things are happening as I've predicted, and to heed the warning. I wasn't looking at it so much as a "contest" as you seem to have been based on your comparing me to things you have read. I'm just saying, it's here, it's coming, watch out.

Some people don't believe it. (look at Mutt's post) They are in for a rude awakening.
last edited: 2/19/08 10:14:24 AM
Sarge
10:13:43 AM
2/19/08

Actually, I do think the Singularity has some merit to it, Sarge. That's the kind of dishonesty I was talking about.

Still waiting for proof that you made predictions back when you said you did.
Mutt
10:15:37 AM
2/19/08

No, your timing is your only original claim. Your future-tech scenario has been hashed to death, and I think that's what's got people chuckling.

Senseless mumble-jumbo from you. I made claims. They are coming true. Period. You think it's crap? Fine. That's your problem.

LOL - Pizza hut started online orders in '94, and that's just one off the top of my head.

Right. that is "mid" 90s. Not "early" 90s. big difference.

That you actually made the predictions back then.

You're either going to have to believe me, or think I'm lying. I really don't care which you choose.
Sarge
10:16:30 AM
2/19/08

Actually, I do think the Singularity has some merit to it, Sarge. That's the kind of dishonesty I was talking about.

What are you talking about?
Sarge
10:17:17 AM
2/19/08

I made claims. They are coming true. Period. You think it's crap? Fine. That's your problem. - Sarge

No, I think it's amusing that you think you're being original. That's why I thought you were joking. I still hope you are.

Right. that is "mid" 90s. Not "early" 90s. big difference. - Sarge

Why don't you narrow it down to a year for us?

You're either going to have to believe me, or think I'm lying. I really don't care which you choose. - Sarge

Oh, I do believe you don't care. Obviously since you have absolutely no proof that you made your predictions, you couldn't expect anybody to believe you. Throw in your "wow I had this amazing prediction about technology two years before it happened" that people have been talking about for decades, and it becomes a risible self-parody. My question is why are you doing it when you know that?
last edited: 2/19/08 10:25:26 AM
Mutt
10:23:34 AM
2/19/08

No, I think it's amusing that you think you're being original. That's why I thought you were joking. I still hope you are.

What specifically about my prediction is not original?

Why don't you narrow it down to a year for us?

1992

My question is why are you doing it when you know that?

Since you apparently haven't figured it out by now, I don't operate like most lemmings, er ... people, like you apparently do. When you figure out what my actual MO is, instead of the "perceived" or "group-think" MO that people attribute to me, you'll understand a lot about not only things I say, but things I've said in the past. Contrary to popular belief, I do not say things for personal gain. I am a very matter-of-fact person, which often comes across as being self-serving, but it's actually the opposite of self-serving. It's in reality just an expression of events. Couple that with people just don't believe me many times, and you get what you've found yourself in, a situation where you have missed the point because you're focusing on now what I said, but an incorrect intent in where what I've said has come from.
Sarge
10:52:37 AM
2/19/08

a situation where you have missed the point because you're focusing on now what I said, but an incorrect intent in where what I've said has come from.

LOL wut? English - do you speak it? This is going downhill.

hmmmm...maybe this is one-dimensional. I was hoping otherwise. If so, the fun is over, and I'll leave you to talk about your story with others.
Mutt
11:00:55 AM
2/19/08

It's very one-dimensional. That's the point.

There is a path, we are on it.
Sarge
11:08:05 AM
2/19/08

That path in the 1973 Backside album?
salebored
11:18:16 AM
2/19/08

In early 1971 when I was en-utero I predicted the VW Bug



the re-release
dayhiker
11:21:19 AM
2/19/08

LOL, is that why Bag'o'hammers took that noseeum to Afiker?
salebored
11:26:49 AM
2/19/08

Sarge's other predictions
Personal Flying Machines!

Roofed Cities!

Personal Airships!

last edited: 2/19/08 11:48:34 AM
kleetn
11:48:13 AM
2/19/08

crash by Sarge being enjoyed
salebored
12:08:25 PM
2/19/08

SOS-DD
Yogisan
12:12:33 PM
2/19/08

(Same old Sarge - Different Day)
Yogisan
12:13:00 PM
2/19/08

Once again pitts, what is your problem?
Sarge
12:28:03 PM
2/19/08

This link talks about folks talking about this lots in the 80's and one of the first references is in 1965. If I read it on wiki then it must be true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
dayhiker
12:57:47 PM
2/19/08

I know you asked this on a different thread but it seemed more appropriate here.

The Readers Digest version of the singularity is that it is a theory that describes a drastic change in society that would occur following a period of super rapid technological progress. There are a few flavors of that theory out there. One says the it will be caused by the creation of self-improving artificial intelligence.Lately singularitarians have been mostly concerned over nanotechnology.

I read something a few years ago that described it as the rapture for nerds.

What you have posted regarding the loss of humanity in the face of technology is a flavor of this theory.
humanpackmule
1:08:00 PM
2/19/08

I see Dayhiker has been working on his Vulcan mind meld.

We must burn him at the stake.
humanpackmule
1:10:17 PM
2/19/08

The nanites sure kicked butt in STNG
dayhiker
1:10:33 PM
2/19/08

I had a buddy who described STNG as Socialism Trek.
The crew meets a new civilization, berates them for being morally backwards, and offers them a blanket and a potato only if they renounce their backwards ways and join the collective.
humanpackmule
1:13:04 PM
2/19/08

Remember that one group they hooked up with that dressed like a Roman stereotype. Riker was all about staying behind for civil research. They must have had forcefield condoms for him.
dayhiker
1:17:34 PM
2/19/08

Funny, I didn't think for a second that he didn't know what it meant.
Mutt
1:21:31 PM
2/19/08

It's hard to tell what one knows or doesn't know.
humanpackmule
1:27:55 PM
2/19/08

Thanks for the info dayhiker. Contrary to Mutt's incorrectness, I have never heard of that theory. I'm quite certain a single theory can be developed by multiple people independently. It happens quite frequently. It's surprising it doesn't happen more often. Although, I from that wiki, my predictions are more specific than that, but certainly the concepts are extremely similar.
last edited: 2/19/08 1:39:14 PM
Sarge
1:37:19 PM
2/19/08

Oh right, we're supposed to believe the guy who claims he's the best futurist has never heard of the most publicized scenario on it. Or that he didn't type "singularity" in google and look at the FIRST freakin' result, for crying out loud.

More dishonesty from Sarge again. Tsk - tsk.
Mutt
1:43:08 PM
2/19/08

One day all of your incorrectness will be blatantly obvious to you. Knowledge you'll carry with you for eternity.
Sarge
1:47:18 PM
2/19/08

Jeez, you should be flattered that I don't think you're so damn ignorant. Particularly after you being a loud-mouthed braggart - lol
Mutt
1:50:47 PM
2/19/08

I'm just telling people it's coming... Something that should be kept quiet. Sometimes being a loud-mouth isn't a negative. Of course, somebody like you who cares about personal appearances over substance wouldn't understand. When you come to the realization I don't care what you think of me, you'll understand a lot more of the world around you.
Sarge
1:56:23 PM
2/19/08

Mutt is worried about personal appearances? I think Mutt, Sarge, and lee are founding members of the, "I don't give a damn what you think of me club."
dayhiker
1:58:58 PM
2/19/08

let me outta this thing! teh interwebs is crazy!
crash bang
6:12:51 PM
2/19/08

i predict that sarge will have the last word on every thread on trailtalk
crash bang
6:30:35 PM
2/19/08

i am shocked it's not more than 60%... i am betting it's closer to 69%
Yogisan
6:32:11 PM
2/19/08

I predict crash will criticize something about somebody on every thread, unprovoked.
Sarge
6:36:12 PM
2/19/08

CRASH BANG WAS RIGHT!
Yogisan
6:50:17 PM
2/19/08

i predicted that you would reply to that. but i cant prove it, because i kept it to myself

i predict that you will reply to this
crash bang
6:50:18 PM
2/19/08

OMG YOU WERE SO RIGHT AGAIN!
Yogisan
6:51:40 PM
2/19/08

great. heres sargisan's troll
crash bang
6:53:55 PM
2/19/08

nostradumbass speaks!
Yogisan
6:55:00 PM
2/19/08

i hope you are ready to climb in the red when you get back. you have ruined me to backpacking and i am going to make you lead some evil stuff on a slack rope when you get back to the states as payback.
Yogisan
6:56:53 PM
2/19/08

kiss kiss

crash, he's kissing ur butt
Sarge
7:01:27 PM
2/19/08

OMG! CRASH WAS RIGHT FOR A THIRD TIME!
Yogisan
7:02:59 PM
2/19/08

bring it on, bustersan!

i'll be back in june. i'm free the weekend of the 21st
crash bang
7:04:39 PM
2/19/08

pitts looks like a thumb
Sarge
7:07:18 PM
2/19/08

i predict that when sarge figures out i have had him on ignore for the last two days that he will post lots of photos of eyeballs captioned "i see you peeking!"
Yogisan
7:09:17 PM
2/19/08

pitts is lying, and looks like a thumb
Sarge
7:12:31 PM
2/19/08

What? ,'I pee you seeking'. I'll clean glasses so I can have a clean drink.
salebored
9:26:49 PM
2/19/08

is found on trailtalk?
poopdude
10:45:54 AM
3/23/08

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