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Must be yet another dang liberal District Court! ;)
StoveStomper
11:35:32 AM
9/24/03

While I am not too impressed with the argument of Free Speech and Discrimination, the issue of whether the FTC followed administrative rules might be significant.

The Dept of Transportation lost two US Supreme Court cases which effectively stopped I-40 from passing straight through Memphis.

Reason: Faliure to follow their own administrative rules.
chili36
11:37:26 AM
9/24/03

Bastards! I want it to work!!!
Sassafras
12:23:38 PM
9/24/03

But chili, Congress GAVE them the authority...
Father Goose
12:37:34 PM
9/24/03

This is f-ing stupid that this is being delayed. Tens of millions have spoken, IMPLEMENT THE DANG LIST!
Artex
12:39:05 PM
9/24/03

FG, authority aside, the question I see posed is whether they followed the procedures correctly.

Two different issues.

And let me point out, I sure hope they did.
chili36
1:04:34 PM
9/24/03

True, chili, but that was not the reason stated by the court for the stay. The court said the FTC did not have the authority.
Father Goose
1:12:15 PM
9/24/03

All I know is I pity the next telemarketer who calls my house..
Treebeard
2:34:02 PM
9/24/03

Here in Pa. we've had a state do not call list that works perfectly well. It's not even been challenged, that I know.
Geobeet
2:37:20 PM
9/24/03

I intend to talk circles around them. Yeah, i know it's someone just doing their job, but blocking this is BS. And if they win the right to buy a list with my name on it (which I never authorized) that gives them the right to invade my privacy, then they have to deal with whatever crossfire comes their way...
Treebeard
2:37:45 PM
9/24/03

Thanks, FG. I briefly scanned over the article earlier and read it to raise an issue of procedure.

Maybe I can find an opinion on this and get down to the nitty gritty.
chili36
2:59:04 PM
9/24/03

Pretty dry reading .

Note: In PDF format.
chili36
3:12:26 PM
9/24/03

Chili, hopefully we can cut through all the dry BS and Congress will get this taken care of by this afternoon...

Congress
Treebeard
11:06:33 AM
9/25/03

I had to get evil with one of those bastards just last night.

The Fire Fighters Assn harassed me.

I told the dude to call Annapolis if they needed more money.

He wasn't ammused.

I suggested he get another job if he couldn't handle it.

He hung up on me.......yippee!
Tom Terrific
11:14:10 AM
9/25/03

It looks like meat's back on the menu, boys! Congress voted to make the list go into effect as scheduled.
Artex
12:11:17 PM
9/25/03

Good work, Artex!




Huh?
Treebeard
12:18:57 PM
9/25/03

j/k
Treebeard
12:19:09 PM
9/25/03

Love this part:
After the ruling, angry consumers posted the judge's office and home telephone numbers on Web sites and encouraged people to call and complain. Calls to the West home seeking comment were blocked by busy signals.


Entire article
bitpusher
12:24:12 PM
9/25/03

That's great and falls in line with the Dave Barry move of a few weeks ago. If you missed that, the thread was 'Dave Barry Rocks". A true classic...
Treebeard
12:33:13 PM
9/25/03

Ok, what's with these freakin' judges already. Now, a Denver Appeals judge has blocked the list again. This time with a first amendment question, bound to tie it and send it to the Supreme Court. I am assuming that the Supreme Court will grant Writ of Certiorari and hear the case.


CALLING VIOLIN

Can you get this turkey judge's phone number so we can post it on the internet??
Treebeard
8:52:55 AM
9/26/03

Putz asked for it...
...And got it!

CNN's Tucker Carlson Angry Over Phone Flap

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Conservative CNN commentator Tucker Carlson's snide humor backfired on him - and his wife. While defending telemarketers during a segment on "Crossfire" last week, the bow-tied co-host was asked for his home phone number. Carlson gave out a number, but it was for the Washington bureau of Fox News, CNN's bitter rival.

The bureau was deluged with calls. To get back at him, Fox posted Carlson's unlisted home number on its Web site. After his wife was inundated with obscene calls, Carlson went to the Fox News bureau to complain. He was told the number would be taken off the Web site if he apologized on the air. He did, but that didn't end the anger.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Carlson called Fox News "a mean, sick group of people."

Fox spokeswoman Irena Briganti said Carlson got what he deserved. "CNN threw the first punch here. Correcting this mistake was good journalism."

Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved
Treebeard
8:15:59 AM
9/30/03

Now that's funny!

What a bunch of weenies!
Tom Terrific
8:21:18 AM
9/30/03

Every one should have the private numbers of the people who own the
telemarketing companies. see how they like it.
Elfskin2
8:42:11 AM
9/30/03

Uh huh, and exercise a little free speech on them!
Tom Terrific
8:52:02 AM
9/30/03

Hey, a little justice here?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10451291/


Good for 'em. Now, go after the other wiseasses I get and I'll be even happier!
Treebeard
12:26:21 PM
12/13/05

Can the IRS be put on that list?
salebored
12:34:27 PM
12/13/05

So, Verizon Wireless told me it's illegal for telemarketers to call you on a cell phone. I've been getting sales calls on my cell and Verizon told me that the callers are spoofing their number...in other words they are not calling from the number that appears on the cell phone caller id. I was told that the only thing I can do about it is to change my cell phone number.

Blah.
MDSHiker
12:35:12 PM
12/13/05

Yeah, I still get these pricks. They get arrogant, too, when you tell them they can't call you. All the more reason I want to see more fines like this. Kick 'em in the wallet. It's the only thing that works in America.

REPRINT OF MY CALL POSTED ON THIS THREAD A FEW YEARS AGO:

Had an interesting conversation...
“...last night with a telemarketer. This is pretty much how it went, word for word!

TM: On behalf of Capital One, you being a cardholder, I want to take this opportunity to make a special offer to you today.
Me: Listen, you are obviously a telemarketer. I no longer accept calls from telemarketers.
TM: But, you don't know what i am going to offer you...
Me: Ma'am. I am signed up to not have telemarketers call my house anymore.
TM: But, that doesn't go into effect until...
Me: Correction. It is in effect as of now. Do you understand that?
TM: But, that list...
Me: I don't think you heard me. This is a yes or no answer to a simple question.
TM: But...
Me: Uh Uh! Yes or no.
TM: Uh, yes.
Me: Good. Now, I will be glad to talk to you if you just give me your home phone # and I will be happy to call you back during dinner time. What time do you eat?
TM: Sir, you can't call me...
Me: Uh uh! What is your home phone #
TM: ok, you can call 800...
Me: Oh no no no! You don't live at an 800 #. I want your home phone #.
TM: My home phone was disconnected. This is where you can get me.
Me: Nope. Deal's off. Home phone or you leave me alone. Understand?

Pretty much left it at that. I must give credit to Jerry Seinfeld for giving me the idea abut the home phone #. I more or less got the idea from an episode where he did that, except his dialogue came off a little different.”
treebeard
9:58:00 AM
8/08/03
Treebeard
12:49:40 PM
12/13/05

Funny how they left out who owns DirecTV.
last edited: 12/13/05 1:39:25 PM
VioLiN
1:38:27 PM
12/13/05

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