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This is just an outloud brainstorm, so bear with me.

In addition to the regular TT page, what if I made a text only/ad free page called TT Plus and then charged a small monthly fee ($2-5) to use it? Would anyone pay for something like this? The regular TT page would still be available and free for all to use, but if you want a slightly faster load time or hate the ads, then you could pay to use the TT+ page. What other features would justify a pay service? I'm just trying to think of some ways to turn this whole Internet thing into a full-time job and leave corporate America behind.
matt, the webmaster
7:21:09 AM
6/27/03

THat sounds interesting.
treebait
7:33:29 AM
6/27/03

my wife wants to shoot me already. if i paid to do this i'd be a dead man for sure.....
stratdewd
7:47:17 AM
6/27/03

Matt the ads don't bother me as much as it does some of the others. I'm using a older broswer with dial-up I don't know how much faster loading would be for me. I like that you do this for us and from my understanding some of it is out of pocket, I guess.

Couldn't you just ask for donations till the required mark was met freeing you of any 'out-of-pocket' expenses and possible do away with ads all together, PBS style.

What's it take,,, $$$ wise, a year to keep this up for us? I'm sure others would be willing to fork over a few bucks a year to free it of ads. You got the flock for it.

Donation to keep it commercial free!!!
Briar Rabbit
7:55:05 AM
6/27/03

I would be willing to pay up to 20 bucks for the year. I would not want to pay monthly.
Bigpoppa
8:00:14 AM
6/27/03

yeah briar......a TT-a-thon!



tilt can be the MC(ala jerry lewis)
stratdewd
8:03:05 AM
6/27/03

we can call it....MATT'S KIDS
stratdewd
8:03:50 AM
6/27/03

You got my wheels churning,
A 30 day free trail run for trolls and newbies then if they want to keep that 'handle and password' a one time yearly donation would be reguired in order to keep it.
Briar Rabbit
8:05:27 AM
6/27/03

I don't think the two board thing would work. I think everyone would end up sticking with the free one. I would be willing to pay to suport the board if it had a better format like the EZ Board format. The people are great here and the topics lively but the format is arcane and outdated.
Nigal
8:05:27 AM
6/27/03

can we get the Tree Family Discount?
mapleleaf
8:06:05 AM
6/27/03

I like the way TT is now. I don't mind the ads, as long as there notthe kind like that suitcase thing. I have a fast service and computer, so TT runs smooth fer me. That being said, I can understand you wanting to make this full time for you. I would be willing to chip in donation style. There has to be a way to make this site pay for ya.
laqtis
8:08:53 AM
6/27/03

I tend to not pay for online content (read: I don't pay), but out of all the online content I make use of, TT is the one thing I would pay for.

I don't know how many users would be lost if you charged for what we get now, but I do believe that any new content that you charged for would get little traffic. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.
bitpusher
8:15:56 AM
6/27/03

Where do I send the check?
chili36
8:16:21 AM
6/27/03

i maybe wouldn't mind a one time pay for a screen name deal. Making it real interesting to be a troll then.
OPIE
8:16:27 AM
6/27/03

;-D
i think you people should pay ME to hang out here.
lyra
8:26:34 AM
6/27/03

but for real, i wouldn't pay the monthly fee if i could still use TT like it is, because the ads or whatever don't bother me. if you charged for regular TT, though, i would pay yearly, like $20 or something. but i still think i should be paid!!
;-)
lyra
8:35:03 AM
6/27/03

I'll send you some Blueberry Harvest Bars and Monkey Chow, lyra!
aero
8:35:37 AM
6/27/03

now that's more like it! happy friday, Aero. :-)
lyra
8:38:29 AM
6/27/03

I guess I'd pay something like $20 per year. Could I just send you a nickle a day?
aero
8:39:31 AM
6/27/03

Sure, aero, mail Matt a nickel every day...
bitpusher
8:42:20 AM
6/27/03

HA!

Yeah, you'd have to be independently wealthy to run even a small stable of trolls.


Hey, I wonder what the writers union would say? Would Matt pay union scale for all these killer ad libs?
Tilt
8:42:30 AM
6/27/03

A yearly fee sounds better than a monthly fee. The ads don't bother me, other than the freaky flying suitcase. In fact, I found offroute.com and Sierra Trading Post through the ads. But this is almost like a second home, so anything that would improve it or allow more features would be good.

Generally, I like the format well enough. I'd suggest adding the screen name of whoever started the tread.
Geobeet
8:47:42 AM
6/27/03

Hey, how about keeping TT board free, but update and charge for the information sections. We are always saying to newbies - geeezzz, we've covered this before, go check the inforamtion area --
laqtis
8:52:24 AM
6/27/03

How about grandfather all of us in for free and charge the Newbies? It'll be our little secret!
aero
9:01:48 AM
6/27/03

No. This board would die very quickly if fees are introduced.
Rarely have fees worked on the internet.
StoveStomper
9:04:39 AM
6/27/03

aero for TT president!!
mapleleaf
9:05:12 AM
6/27/03

...going along with my above suggestion, you could get in the "charged" area for free, once you have contributed 10 gear reviews.....
laqtis
9:05:26 AM
6/27/03

stovestomper is obviously overlooking the billion dollar porn site industry
chili36
9:05:35 AM
6/27/03

TT porn? hmmmmm.....
bitpusher
9:06:52 AM
6/27/03

Webshots seems to have the recipe; free use for limited service and a fee for unlimited use.
aero
9:06:57 AM
6/27/03

maybe we could combine the two....
ynamiynami
9:08:05 AM
6/27/03

Maybe if you had the free service, you could only enter 24 characters per message.
bitpusher
9:08:59 AM
6/27/03

Thanks Maple. If elected, I promise to push for fee-cuts!
aero
9:09:06 AM
6/27/03

lmao chili, you obviously haven't been......do they have a hooters site?
stratdewd
9:09:19 AM
6/27/03

If you want to offer a pay service, you must allow nekkid pitchers, and lots of 'em.
kleetn
9:11:26 AM
6/27/03

No, strat, Hooter's still leaves a little for the imagination.
chili36
9:12:33 AM
6/27/03

Only if they are nekkid rotting toes and left feet a la Violin.

Matt I would pay an annual fee and put up with the ads so that you could work this board fulltime and backpack the group trips more.
LyndyS
9:17:47 AM
6/27/03

TT porn would scare people away. LOL! ;-) yeah, i think that if you charged for regular use, you would have to at least have a free trial period, otherwise newbies would never sign up. wait a minute, who needs freakin' newbies??

can i be the VP, Aero? my moto: Monkeys All Around!
lyra
9:18:25 AM
6/27/03

I'm happy with things now, but I'd pay a yearly subscription rate for TT.
gremlin
9:34:03 AM
6/27/03

You could be VP, lyra, and the monkeys could be the Cabinet.
Close the borders! Tax the Newbies!
aero
9:41:12 AM
6/27/03

lol aero
stratdewd
9:42:41 AM
6/27/03

woo hoo!! :-)
lyra
9:47:22 AM
6/27/03

are Trolls allowed?
Troll420
10:39:57 AM
6/27/03

If they pay why not, Troll money no good around here?
ThePackMan
10:42:45 AM
6/27/03

Perhaps you could do links that give a referral fee. I'll bet there is enough TT loyalty that you'd get a lot of clicks - I'd certainly use them and would buy through them if the price was competitive.
pedxing
10:58:17 AM
6/27/03

Matt...
Sorry, not interested in paying.

Lurking here is a good escape from work now and again, but I certainly would not be interested in paying for the banter of this evergrowing dysfunctional family.

The ads don't bother me that much.

(I hope you're not accidentally exposing a shortness of operating funds for this website!!)
DiggerBoy
11:09:03 AM
6/27/03

You could be VP, lyra, and the monkeys could be the Cabinet.
Close the borders! Tax the Newbies!"
aero
09:41:12 AM
06/27/03

what about me damnit!

I voted you in as Pres....
mapleleaf
11:11:49 AM
6/27/03

A football board I read lets anyone read the messages, but only paying members to post. I'm not a member of that board, but it's a nice intermediate way to do things.
dayhiker
11:12:46 AM
6/27/03

uummm did you just tell Matt that he has a dysfunctional family?
mapleleaf
11:13:17 AM
6/27/03

that's a good idea, dayhiker!

hey maple, the monkeys will need someone to pick the bugs off them. hee hee!!
lyra
11:15:01 AM
6/27/03

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