Another Bush Lie

“Gallup: 50% of Americans Now Say Bush Deliberately Misled Them on WMDs

Half of all Americans, exactly 50%, now say the Bush administration deliberately misled Americans about whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the Gallup Organization reported this morning.

"This is the highest percentage that Gallup has found on this measure since the question was first asked in late May 2003," the pollsters observed. "At that time, 31% said the administration deliberately misled Americans. This sentiment has gradually increased over time, to 39% in July 2003, 43% in January/February 2004, and 47% in October 2004."
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“Ways and Means Kills Inquiry into Question on Trust Fund

Last night, in a rare Monday night session, the Ways and Means Committee of the United States House of Representative voted 22-1 against a resolution which would require the President to produce documentation supporting his oft-repeated claim that there is no Social Security Trust.

The action stopped a Resolution of Inquiry from proceeding to the full House for a vote. I introduced the resolution last month after President Bush had claimed in a meeting in New Hampshire that "there is no Social Security trust." He has since repeated the assertion. The implications of the President's assertions about the Social Security trust fund are quite serious for the 48 million Americans who currently rely on Social Security, and for those who will become recipients in the future.

According to the Social Security Administration's own trustees, Social Security has $1.68 trillion in the Trust Fund. According to the Social Security Administration the surplus will grow to over $6 trillion.

Most interesting, however, the President's assertion that there is no Trust Fund comes at a time when the Administration has borrowed over $637.4 billion from the fund obtained in highly regressive taxes on American workers.
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If the President's assertions remain unchallenged, the Administration can continue to drain the Trust Fund of its assets and make true its now false claim that Social Security has no Trust Fund and is going bankrupt. They only need the complicity of the Congress.
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The President has a Constitutional obligation to uphold the public debt of the United States. Social Security's financial obligations are, according to the Social Security Trustees, backed by the "full faith and credit of the United States". If, indeed, there is no Social Security trust - as the President asserts with the political protection of his Congressional majority - then it is clear that the President is heading towards a direct challenge to his own constitutional authority and legal responsibilities to affirm the financial obligations of Social Security.”

“Reuters
Sunday, July 10, 2005; 6:35 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top White House advisor Karl Rove was one of the secret sources that spoke to reporters about a covert CIA operative whose identity was leaked to the media, Newsweek magazine reported in its latest edition.

The magazine said Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove talked to Time magazine about former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, CIA agent Valerie Plame.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/10/AR2005071000758.html


George W. Scumbag had repeatedly denied it.”

“Rove has carefully chosen his words when questioned about the leak. "I didn't know her name. I didn't leak her name," he told CNN last year when asked if he had had anything to do with it.

Kind of like when Clinton carefully chose his words when saying he didn't have "sexual relations" with that woman.”

“NBC/WSJ poll: Only 41 percent give Bush good marks for being “honest and straightforward” — his lowest ranking on this question since he became president. That’s a drop of nine percentage points since January, when a majority (50 percent to 36 percent) indicated that he was honest and straightforward.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8561443/”

“Doesn't matter. He won the election and Kerry didn't. :)”

“Ditto. Bring up statistics of the public opinion of Bush isn't going to change the fact that he is president.”

“But the point is that most people now realize he is a liar.

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“Haha! you're one to be talking about character and lying V...”

“I knew he was a liar after reading Shrub.

Nigal is a member of the Defenders Of Bush League.”

“No Tommy, I am a member of the Antagonize of the Left League. It ain’t a love for Bus, it’s a dislike of the Loony Left.”

“What's wrong with the left side of the Canadian dollar coin Nigal?”

“I like the beaver better!”

“I suppose anyone who isn't a right-wing whack job like you must be loony left, huh?”

“tell me when bush has not lied--”

“That's your assumption comrade, not mine. Being a centrist I’d have to say that you are right, anyone to the left of me is loony.

Dos-bi-donia…”

““tell me when bush has not lied--”

Well that one time when he said, "Fool me once and shame on me. Fool me twice and...shame on...we can't be fooled again.".”

“Nigal, if democrats are loony left to you, then you have marked yourself as a fascist.

Sieg Heil, mofo!!”

“Who said anything about democrats? I didn't. Hell, there are some democrats to RIGHT of me.

Quit while you're behind Tommy. :)”

“Your grasp of reality......ain't, ya goofy bastard!!!”

“My eating paint chips as a kid has nothing to do with my grasp of reality. 8P”

“I think that a President needs a little bit of space to lie every once in awhile. We can't come right out and say that we can't stand Saudi Arabia. We have to lie and say nice things about them.

But it's okay to lie if you are doing a good job. Bush's problem is that he's not very good as a president.

I also think that there are enough terrible things that Bush has DONE. We don't need to bring up the goofy things that he has SAID.

No impeachment. No accusations. Let's just grind the man down on his record.”

“it isnt so much that he is lying-its his refusal to see the realty of situations such as iraq,global warming,carl rove and a host of other issues--”

“Bush is like a golden child.........can't do or say anything wrong.

"Let's just grind the man down on his record."

Now you're talkin'!!

That's what the democratic process is all about.”

“41% of our country are complete morons, how comforting.”

““41% of our country are complete morons, how comforting.”

Actually, I always put the number much higher, closer to 65% are complete morons.”

“WASHINGTON, (AFP) - US military intelligence warned the Bush administration as early as February 2002 that its key source on Al-Qaeda's relationship with Iraq had provided "intentionally misleading" data, according to a declassified report.

Nevertheless, eight months later, President George W. Bush went public with charges that the Iraqi government of Saddam Hussein had trained members of Osama bin Laden's terror network in manufacturing deadly poisons and gases.

These same accusations had found their way into then-secretary of state Colin Powell's February 2003 speech before the UN Security Council, in which he outlined the US rationale for military action against Iraq.

"This newly declassified information provides additional, dramatic evidence that the administrations pre-war statements were deceptive," said Democrat Carl Levin, the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who pushed for partial declassification of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document.

The report provides a critical analysis of information provided by Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, an Islamic radical and bin Laden associate, who served as senior military trainer at a key Al-Qaeda camp in Afghanistan before it was destroyed by US forces in late 2001.

In captivity, al-Libi initially told his DIA debriefers that Al-Qaeda operatives had received training from Iraq in manufacturing poisons and deadly chemical agents.

But the DIA, according to its assessment, did not find the information credible.

US military intelligence officers concluded that al-Libi lacked "specific details on the Iraqis involved, the... materials associated with the assistance and the location where training occurred," the report said.

"It is possible," the document went on to say, "he does not know any further details; it is more likely this individual is intentionally misleading the debriefers."

The DIA suggested al-Libi, who had been under interrogation for several weeks, "may be describing scenarios to the debriefers that he knows will retain their interest."

Just the same, president Bush insisted during an October 2002 trip to Cincinnati, Ohio, that his administration had learned that "Iraq has trained Al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."

He repeated the same charge in February 2003.

The administration's drumbeat over alleged Iraq-Qaeda ties reached a crescendo that same month when Powell went before the United Nations to accuse Iraq of hiding tons of chemical and biological weapons and nurturing nuclear ambitions.

His speech, according to congressional officials, even contained a direct reference to al-Libi's testimony, albeit not his name.

"I can trace the story of a senior terrorist operative telling how Iraq provided training in these weapons to Al-Qaeda," insisted the secretary of state, who now says he regrets voicing many of the charges contained in that speech.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/051107/afp/051107115029top.html”

“So who were those foreign nationals at the training camps shooting at Marines during the initial invasion?”

“Y'all notice how the libbies are throwing hissy fits right and left nowadays?

Their buddy France is in flames, Delay and Rowe are still laughing at them, and Bush is running circles around then with the Supreme Court.
Almost enough to make you feel sorry for them.”

“Actually SS it’s become sad now. They were passed even making shlt up over a year ago and now they are just swinging in the dark hoping to hit something. And still they offer no new ideas.”

“Yeah... It’s completely un-American to expect government accountability.”

“Who said that?”

“I think it was Hillary who said it.”

“Fifty-seven percent [of the American public] believe [Bush] deliberately misled people to make the case for war, compared with 35 percent who say he gave the most accurate information he had.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9981177/”

“Bush is a liar. He should be charged as a war criminal, and/or with treason.

"In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." It is also generally considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government."

Wikipedia

Presidential Oath
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

First line of the Constitution:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "


The war, proported by lies and misleading statements by the president and his staff has made our national defense weaker, the over 2,000 people who died in the action can no longer enjoy the general welfare and secure blessings of liberty; and, the cost of the war will hinder the general welfare of our posterity.”

“Bush lied alright. He said to rent the dvd Cannon Ball run and that it was good:)”

“April 20, 2004

Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html”

“I still haven't seen your argument supported by the constitution.”

“Another Load from Dubya.”

“That would appear to be a bald face lie on Bush's part. Also interesting that Bush ties it to the constitution.

If I understand correctly, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that wiretaps did not violate the Constitutional protection agains search and seizure. Bush's order of the wire-tap violated the constitutional checks and balances because there was a law in place requiring a court order.

Am I also correct in understanding that since Congress never declared war - just authorized Bush to use whatever force he felt was necessary, any special powers related to a declaration of war do not accrue to him.

Please people on all sides of the issue, correct me if I'm wrong.

One observation on Bush and his buddies who back this war in Iraq. At them time they were selling the Congressional resolution, we were being told that Bush needed this authorization in hand in order to do some tough negotiating - that we were still trying to avoid war. This was before the inspections re-started, even before the UN vote on re-starting inspections. Now in hindsight, Bush and his buddies have tried to act as if this was a declaration of war that congress was choosing war. They never made that choice, they chose to let Bush chose.

It's worth reviewing the resolution itself to understand what the Congress was doing and how the war was sold.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html”

“Documents released by the committee show that top federal officials warned the White House hours before Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast that the storm would likely cause breaches in the protective levees around New Orleans, Louisiana.

"Any storm rated Category 4 or greater on the Saffir-Simpson scale will likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching, leaving the New Orleans metro area submerged for weeks or months," a Department of Homeland Security report warned August 28, the day before Katrina came ashore at the Louisiana-Mississippi state line.

The documents were released as the Senate committee prepares for a hearing on the response to Katrina, which killed hundreds in the two states and left about 80 percent of New Orleans under water when portions of three levees failed. The breach of the levees was predicted by a 2004 emergency management simulation called the "Hurricane Pam exercise."

The White House Situation Room received the Homeland Security warning at 1:47 a.m. on August 29, Lieberman said. Yet President Bush, days later, made a seemingly contradictory statement to a reporter.

"What happened to that report? Why was the President left so uninformed that he said four days later, 'I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees?' " Lieberman asked.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/24/katrina.levees/index.html”

“What would Frank say about the Scrub?”

“Violin - are you the internet?”

“I saw something similar in the news this past week that Bush provoked the war. You know damn well that Bush provoked the war in Afghanistan also by putting an impossible requirement that they turn over Bin Laden. Bush has never shown a sincere desire to get bin Laden, it was for the oil pipeline.”

“United Corporations of America- of, for, and by the Corporations. In the beginning Haliburton said, "Let there be war and there was war".”

“Hans Bricks”

“I think demanding Bin Laden was reasonable. The Taliban and AL-Queda had an alliance and attacks on the US were planned by him under Taliban auspices. It made no sense for the US to sit on its hands and let Bin-Laden organize more attacks. The invasion of Afghanistan had the understanding and support of almost everyone in the world.

Were things in Afghanistan handled differently than they would have been if Bush's over-riding goal was the capture of Bin-Laden and the defeat of Al-Qeda? I think there is a good case to be made for that. Clearly those key aims were sacrificed at times for other aims.”

“That's what the PNAC prescribed. The Pearl Harbor like event is only a means.”