Proper Justice

“Crowd Beats Motorist After He Strikes Boy With Car
Posted: 10:27 a.m. EDT July 14, 2003


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- A crowd in West Palm Beach reacted angrily when a motorist allegedly hit and killed a 3-year-old boy.

Sheriff's officials say a group of men who saw the crash pulled the man from his car and beat him.

The boy darted into traffic Saturday night and was struck by a car driven by 37-year-old Honorio Martinez.

A sheriff's department spokesman says more than a dozen friends of the boy's father saw the crash and stopped the car about a half-block away. The men dragged Martinez out of the driver's seat and punched him several times.

After the beating, Martinez walked back to see how the child was doing, then said he was leaving because he didn't have a driver's license. The men then beat him up again.

Martinez has been charged with felony driving without a license that resulted in a death. No one has been charged in the beating.”

“In 1991, a Hasidic Rabbi swerved and hit 7 year old Gavin Cato in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. It set off riots for the next several nights there and led to the brutal slaying of Yankel Rosenbaum, a man innocent of any crime. It took years for the tensions to settle. That, in a nutshel, is reason enough why mobs should not take the law into their own hands. Proper justice? Rethink the methodology, enius!”

“He's got nothing to think with, tree!”

“Actually, proper justice would have been if Honorio Martinez had been beaten to death at the scene. Similarly, if the Hasidic Rabbi killed Gavin Cato, beaten to death at the scene.”

“I would like to know where the kids father or mother was. It mentions the following, "A sheriff's department spokesman says more than a dozen friends of the boy's father saw the crash and stopped the car about a half-block away."

OK that is great, but what was the father doing, smoking a joint with his friends. Shoot the father!”

“Simplistic solutions from simple trolls!”

“I know Geo, you would have pulled him out and gave him a hug, sit down with him over a coffee and find out how he feels about what he did and how he can change his thoughts so he drives with a license and how he can get his Green Card updated.

Then go talk to the father's friends and talk with them how they can control thier anger.

Huh Geo? Isn't that what your mother tells you to do?”

“OUCH!”

“"darted into traffic " makes it sound like it might not have been the fault of the motorist, so how is this "proper justice"?”

“What the people did after the driver tried to flee the scene.”

“Oh. My bad.”

“Horrible the 3 year old was killed... cool the group beat him after he did it and kept driving, cooler they beat him again after they told him he didn't have a license.”

“"Darting into traffic" is not the fault of the driver, but leaving the scene and driving with no license certainly is.

Geez PackMan, you think a beating is cool?
Do you watch "snuff films" too?”

“Street Justice. No messing around. They saw a guy kill a kid, not get out to help and drive away....power to the crowd.

God knows no punishment would come from the courts for that murder, he deserved what he got.”

“Angry mob kills man
Monday, July 7, 2003
PAUL WYCHE
THE SAGINAW NEWS
Enraged members of a crowd beat a 26-year-old Saginaw man to death Saturday after he shot two brothers in an East Side neighborhood, police say.

Weylin Graham opened fire about 2 a.m. at Travoy and Devitri Santos, ages 26 and 25, respectively, at Emily and Atwater, said Saginaw Detective Sgt. Mark Lively.
Graham likely died of a head wound, Police Deputy Chief Tom McGarrity said.
The brothers are hospitalized at Saint Mary's hospital in fair condition.
An autopsy is set for later today, Lively said. Medical Examiner Dr. Kanu Virani was out of town over the weekend, delaying the autopsy.
McGarrity said police recovered a handgun at the scene. The victims were shot multiple times.
A large group of people witnessed the shooting, but many left by the time police arrived Saturday, he added.
McGarrity said finding suspects is proving difficult because no one is coming forward, and those who are have given conflicting reports.
Police are asking anyone with information to call them at 759-1288 or at 759-1289.
Graham was the sixth person slain in Saginaw and the seventh countywide this year.”

“Maybe Geobeet and Tom Terrific would like to be penpals with Susan Smith.”

“I think the motorist should be convicted of murder and executed. He was driving without a license and tried to leave the scene after strking the child, only stopping after he was chased down. For you bleeding hearts, that's what we call motive, an essential element of a crime.”

“No one's arguing that he isn't guilty.”

“And if the crowd simply held him for the authorities to handle the situation and utilize the system a patriot like you pretends to love, then that wouldn't have had the 'zing' that a good mob beating would satisfy, would it, you f-ing coward. You are a the equivalent of a stool sample, FudgePackman! Yes, that man deserved justice and I guarantee the judge he would go in front of wouldn't hesitate to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. This guy would receive no sympathy from any court of law anywhere. So, before you toss the system you emrace out the window, why don't you think before you talk?”

“Eat it, denizen!

I raised three baby boys of my own.

The only things I did with them at lakes, when they were that age, was to see how high I could toss them in the air.

Inevitably, I would find myself surrounded by other people's children clamoring to be next to fly through the air and splash down in three feet of water.

When they got bigger, and I couldn't chuck 'em, we did, and still do snorkelling in those same New England lakes.”

“I do and its better to get a little old fashioned street justice than from a courtroom.

BS he would get no sympathy, a lawyer would argue and eventually would get it knocked down from Vehicular Homicide to a misdamenor for not having a license and pay a $50 fine. Screw you Treebeard.”

“Reginald Denny was a guy who got that kinda street justice in L.A.

Sometimes the wrong dude gets his skull crushed.

That is why we have a justice system.”

“Packman, why do you hate America so much?”

“Hey, I'm just a good American, like you, FudgePacker!”

“Phaedrus, its about time someone axed that question!”

“Why don't you post a picture of yourself, Pack? We would all like to see you, complete with the cape and the red 'S'...”

“This troll is starting to show some promise.”

“Har har.”

“Too bad he left his balls in the street...”

“Didn't Reginald Denny get his skull crushed because he had the misfortune of being white, not because the mob thought he killed a three year old?”

“The troll is starting to foam at the mouth. Are you a law and order man? Then street justice, you might have a slight clue, is against the law. Name calling, seems to be among your few capabilities besides cutting and pasting, may or may not be against the law, depending on how you do it. Of course, online, you're a sitting duck if you cross the line and get sued. There is no anonymity on the net! That wouldn't be street justice though, would it?”

“Treebeard, are you going to let him talk about you like that?”

“Geobeet, bro, don't let him get you so worked up. It's not really worth it. He's no worse a troll than some of the others who have come and gone just in the short time I've been here.”

“We need some of those street justice in Vancouver B.C....some 17 year old kid tortured, mutilated and killed a cat with a knife, and filmed it. He called it "art" and showed it in his class.

He got a year for his crime...but since he spent 8 months going in and out of jail, waiting for his trail....the f_cking judge let him go scott free. Sick kid and sick justice system.”

“It is hard to tell the difference, between a cat and a rabbit once they are skinned.”

“Street justice from cats would be heinous.

I'll bet there's at least one woman over in Vancouver who won't let her cat out of the house to kill birds and defecate in children's sandboxes anymore.”

“Kid should have been rewarded for removing one more cat from the world.”

“www.tennessean.com

Attacker who set homeless man
on fire gets probation

Albert Blanchard, a homeless man who was set on fire as he slept in downtown Nashville last year, spent more than six months in the hospital, has had eight surgeries and is facing more.

His sister, speaking in Criminal Court here during a sentencing hearing for Blanchard's attacker, said Blanchard has nightmares that either the man, Eric Erwin, or one of his friends will come back and finish him off.

''Mr. Erwin, as you approached my brother, what did you see?'' the sister, Dorothy Blanchard-Smith of Memphis, asked in court. ''Did you see a human being lying at your feet? Were you compelled by the disregard for human life or no regard for his? Could you not find an ounce of compassion for someone sleeping on (a) 20-degree slab of concrete?''

During the March 10 hearing, Blanchard-Smith said she wasn't interested in vengeance but expected justice to be served. She also wanted the maximum sentence allowed, which is three to six years in prison.

Instead, Criminal Court Judge Mark Fishburn sentenced Erwin to four years of probation as to a plea agreement approved by prosecutors. Erwin and his attorney did not return phone calls seeking comment yesterday.

Homeless advocates here expressed surprise at the sentence and said the attack demonstrates that the homeless sometimes are viewed as less than human.

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Erwin, a 30-year-old jeweler who lives in Clarksville, testified he could not remember setting the man on fire because he had been drinking downtown, Todd said.

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After midnight Jan. 14, 2003, police said, Blanchard was sleeping on a sidewalk in front of Gibson Broadway Showcase on Broadway. Earlier Erwin and two friends had gone out drinking downtown, court records show. Erwin, the documents say, threw a lighted match on Blanchard's leg and the three ran away.

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“That really sucks!”

“Not much incentive to not do something stupid and dangerous all over again...”

“and probation is Proper Justice how?”

“Talk to your wife, Treebeard.”

“feed the homeless to the hungry.kill 2 birds with one stone.good plan,yes?”

“You know? When you have a 25 year-old manic-depressive son it changes how you look at the homeless. I dunno.”

“Yeah gremlin - I edited out the parts about the victim being a football player who attended college before being diagnosed with schizophrenia. He chose to live on the street because he heard voices telling him someone was out to get him and he wanted to keep moving so they wouldn't find him.

Very sad.”

“WASHINGTON - In a nationwide crackdown on child prostitution, the U.S. government has charged 31 people and arrested 19 in the past two days for their roles in sex trafficking, Justice Department officials said Friday...

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More than 30 children, as young as 12 years old, were rescued in the latest phase of the nationwide operation. Since Innocence Lost began in 2003, 200 children have been rescued and 500 people have been arrested.

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“The abhorrent acts alleged in these charges include children being herded around the country as sex slaves, forced to work as prostitutes in brothels and at truck stops, and beaten at the hands of pimps and peddlers,” Gonzales said.



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“Is the snip in the middle the sound of pee pee's being cut off?”

“Wouldn't it be nice? I volunteer, unfortunately that would not change their exploitation of the kids. How sad!”