Black day for ole Gray

“Phaedrus,
While we can't lay the entire blame on Gray Davis, has he done anything to resolve the problems? Has he gone to the legislature an gotten tough with the big spenders? Some how Sacramento thinks tax increases are the only way out of this mess, but the only thing tax increases will do is drive more business and people over the state line.

I think it's high time that the people of this state tighten their belts and that includes children, welfare recipients, veterans etc. The only wat I see to accomplish this is to get some fresh ideas in Sacramento be they Dem or Rep.”

“Arnold is running. i'm stunned, and yet thrilled about this fantastic performer joining the cast of California Political Theatre's latest production.

the shiznit”

“For Pete's sake, he is even using those old tired movie lines...sounds like a joke.

I wish just ONE of these clowns would tell us just what they plan to do to get CA back in the black...oh yea, that would be either cut services, like fire Dept's, cops and schools or raise tax's.”

“Sell California to Mexico for another 30,000 aliens.”

“This is a true story: One of my former students used to work on the Santa Monica Pier many years ago. He ran one of the rides (ferris wheel I think). Arnold Schwarzenegger came up with his kids and asked how they could go on the ride. He told them they needed to buy a ticket at the ticket booth. Arnold said, "OK. I'll be back." My student (who has a great sense of humor) immediately said, "Please. Don't do that!! I'll let you on right now. Just grab your kids and get on. I've seen what happen when you say, 'I'll be back.'"

He said Arnold really got a kick out of that and laughed out loud.

FYI: Other entertainers elected to office in California:

Ronald Reagan (Governor)
George Murphy (Senator)
Sonny Bono (Congressman)”

“LMAO Rockman! I think the guy would do better than what you have in there now. Hopefully he has a strong stance on nature.”

“gotta be a great politician....after all, he's republican....heh heh


i agree BB, and i think everybody will be happy with him. can't wait to see him on leno....in FIVE MINUTES!”

“Did you here the new slogan for Davis?

I’ll be back.”

“i don't think he will though.....”

“There's your Republican Brain Trust, LOLOLOLOLOLOL

He HAS to have more on the ball than the current airhead... or Reagan. The converse would be a possibility too dire to entertain.


<GUFFAW>
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“yeah i agree, i'd never want a tennis shoe for a govenor either....”

“Oh, that's the airhead in the Oval Office I was speaking of.”

“The news today said that many Democrats are starting to distance themselves from Gray. We have models and porn stars entering the race, not to mention Larry Flynt. Arianna Huffington is running as an independent.

The budget is on his desk to sign. With a $38 billion deficit last year, they are still proposing a budget that is $2 Billion more than last year's!! (So, if the budget is going up $2 Billion, why are they cutting the California State University by 13%?. Who's getting the funding?)

I say cut every agency and program by whatever percentage it takes to balance the budget. Spread the hurt around. There is much waste and fat in all government (and industry too). Gray's problem is that he would have to lay off the state employees he hired to pay off the unions...which they would not like. But, they said today his approval rating is down to 22%. What does he have to lose?

Hold on!”

“Well, Ca could do worse than Ahhnold I suppose. Reagan was once gov. of California, and he went on to become one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century, despite what the revisionists try to say.”

“Yep, being bankrupt is GREAT!

LOL”

“He served two terms. Either he was doing things right or the American people were too dumb to realize they had a choice in '84. Maybe they wer e just glad they weren't sitting in Carter's gas station lines anymore.

Here's the real powerhouse in the upcoming race:
(CNN) -- Gary Coleman, child star of the sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes," has placed his name among a host of other celebrities in the running for California governor.

Coleman's candidacy was engineered by the East Bay Express, an Oakland-area newspaper, which paid his $3,500 filing fee, collected the necessary petition signatures and is promoting his candidacy in protest of the scheduled vote aimed at recalling Gov. Gray Davis.

Coleman's campaign treasurer, Steve Buel, editor of the East Bay Express, told CNN that the actor's name "resonates with the voters."

Buel said he had no trouble getting the necessary 65 petition signatures from Independent voters in Alameda County, which he gathered at a recent Oakland A's baseball game.

The Alameda County Registrar of Voters confirmed Wednesday that a representative for Coleman filed the necessary petition signatures and paid the required fee at the courthouse in Oakland, California. He registered as an Independent.

California voters will decide October 7 whether to recall Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, and who should replace him.

"I thought (the recall) was a joke. They thought it was a joke. And I thought, hey, why not," Coleman, 35, told CNN. "I'm probably the least qualified for the job, but I'll have some great people around me."

"It's true that there is a farcical quality to the entire recall effort. But Gary's candidacy is no more farcical than that of Arnold Schwarzenegger, or Arianna Huffington, or the comedian Gallagher," Buel said.

Schwarzenegger, Huffington and Gallagher have all announced they will seek to replace Gov. Davis.

Schwarzenegger's announcement came at a Wednesday afternoon taping of NBC's "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno.

Coleman, speaking shortly after film star Arnold Schwarzenegger announced he was running for governor, predicted that Schwarzenegger would win -- and Coleman said he would vote for the "Terminator."

"Now that Arnold is in the race, there is no race. Gray Davis needs to pack his bags," he said. "I'm going to stay in the race, but I'm not going to campaign."

On Diff'rent Strokes from 1978 to 1986, Coleman played Arnold Drummond, who, along with his brother, Willis (played by Todd Bridges), was adopted by a wealthy man after their mother, the man's maid, died.

His trademark retort, "Whatchu talkin' 'bout," became a well-known catch phrase.”

“Carter was responsible for the OPEC oil embargo? Who told you THAT? LOL

Ariana 'Huffington' is a blatant opportunist. This move of hers reminds me of Buchannon raiding the Reform Party's bank accounts.”

“I'm not referring to the embargo of 73. I'm talking about what's been called the "second oil shock" which was due to Carter's abysmal foreign policy, i.e. the Iranian situation of 1979.”

“Arnold! Hmmm, marital infidelity.

Wonder if republicans will support him as much as they supported Clinton.”

“TOTAL RECALL

I couldn't resist”

“LMAO Phil!”

“Will Maria be able to get Uncle Ted to cross party lines and campaign for him?

LMAO.”

“so, is it true his dad was a big Nazi? i know i read that somewhere, but i couldn't figure out if they were just kidding.”

“i'm sure it is true lykra....


if there's one thing this guy has proven, it's that he can achieve anything he sets out to...

can't wait to see the libbies in the press try to rip him apart. i have the feeling that he won't stand silent for that at all...”

“Former Governor Jerry Brown (now mayor of Oakland) was on TV last night commenting on Arnold. He said that if Arnold comes across well and can address the issues in the media articulately over the next few days, he has a chance. He said that Arnold's first impression is very important and that the political press is different than the entertainment press.

Let me know what happens...I'm outta here until Sunday.”

“Hmmm. That's interesting. In 1979 I was a sophomore in college. I was driving all over the Southeast (Really all over it) and I never saw a single line of cars at any gas pump.

Funny how conservatives gave carter miles of crap and inferred that he was a wimp for supporting such an un-he-man issue as Human Rights... only to fall back on it as an excuse for Gulf War II.


And now we have... 'Conan the Republican'?”

“"I'm not referring to the embargo of 73. I'm talking about what's been called the "second oil shock" which was due to Carter's abysmal foreign policy, i.e. the Iranian situation of 1979."
stickmanwalking
12:00:04 AM
08/07/03

The Iranian revolution was pulled off by religious fundamentalists without Carter's help or approval.
The revolution was the fruits of the CIA-engineered installation of the Shah in 1953 done to keep Iran from nationalizing the oil industry in Iran.
Carter was farming peanuts in '53, I do believe.”

“Arnold is perfect for CA, he's a liberal (for gay rights, gun control, social programs)Republican. Gray Davis raised spending by %40 while revenues increased by just %25, the Gov also hired 40k + people while Gray was in his first term... he got high on the internet bubble, and no one told him it burst”

“Carter resigned his commission as a U.S. Navy officer about 50 years ago to run the family farm after his father either died or fell ill.

What a selfish bastard and wimp!”

“He didn't notice that all the Java programmers are now orangutans?”

“Hmmmmmm, redheads!”

“Is that a Freudian thing? LOL”

“I really don't understand why California has a reputation for weirdness.





Porn Star Says She'll Seek Governor's Office
Candidate Wants To Swap Guns For Porn

www.nbcsandiego.com

LOS ANGELES -- Promising to make lap dances tax deductible if elected, porn star Mary Carey Tuesday collected signatures outside Los Angeles City Hall in her bid for California's top political post.

"My goal is to bring happiness to the streets of California,'' the 5' 9" blonde told a small group of reporters.

Sporting a star-spangled bikini top, Tommy Hilfiger shorts and 4-inch-high platform sandals, 22-year-old Carey stopped passers-by in her bid to gather the 65 signatures needed to run for governor in the Oct. 7 recall election.

She was flanked by her manager and two supporters, one carrying a sign that read "Californians Prefer Blondes.''

Carey said her platform includes taxing breast implants to generate revenue; hiring adult film stars to help negotiate better wholesale electricity prices; and creating a "Porno for Pistols '' program, where gun owners can to swap their weapons for X-rated films.

"If more guys had orgasms, they'd be less violent,'' said Carey, who said she'd run as an Independent.

Her solution to global warming?

"Wear less clothes.''

As Saturday's filing deadline to enter the October recall election nears, an eclectic crew of potential candidates have pulled nomination papers. Few have yet to officially file and pay the $3,500 fee.

Besides more serious potential contenders such as former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan and actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, prospective candidates include Hustler magazine publisher and self-described "smut peddler'' Larry Flynt and aspiring platinum-haired billboard queen Angelyne.”

“I didn't call him selfish or a wimp. Just because you're quick to call someone names doesn't mean everyone is. The fact remains that Carter's foreign policy was weak.
On the plus side, I've finally found two people who think he was a great president.”

“Weeeelllll, there are those who call Carter such things....not necessarily you stick.

I don't think Carter was a great president, but he is maligned unfairly.

Carter did inherit the economic wreckage from the Vietnam War....the bills came due on his watch.
The inflation caused by events before Carter's presidency hit full stride by the mid-'70s.

I believe that to say Carter's foreign policy was weak is a mis-characterization.

Few bother to mention that Carter withdrew the U.S. Olympic Team from the '80 Olympics in Moscow in protest of the U.S.S.R.'s invasion of Afganistan.
This act was very unpopular, but he bucked popular opinion on that one.
And yet there are those who say he was a wimp......not YOU Stickman.”

“I'm the first to admit my mistakes. I didn't realize he was responsible for pulling the team out of the Olympics. I hadn't even thought about that. I'm still not sold on his foreign policy though.”

“I'm not Quick to call anyone names, but I do tend to give what I get. It seems that you just called me a name-caller.

Eh? Wot?


I said:

"Funny how conservatives gave carter miles of crap and inferred that he was a wimp for supporting such an un-he-man issue as Human Rights... only to fall back on it as an excuse for Gulf War II."

Yes, I did. And yes they did. And they do still, on occasion. Then they act like they invented Human Rights... right, Strat? LOL


I have no earthly idea what you personally might've said about Carter in 1979, Stickman.

I still didn't see any lines at the pumps that year...”

“I was jabbing Tom on that one, Tilt.

Although the gloves are coming off now that Strat's name has been invoked!!

By the way, I didn't see atomic bombs dropped in 1945.”

“I heard Gallagher is also in the running.”

“Oooo, if an A-Bomb falls on a city and no one hears it, did it make any noise?”

“Hey, why not?

Too bad Bob Hope kicked the bucket, he could have run too!”

“I'm tempted to change my residency just for the sheer enjoyment of all the nut jobs available to vote on.”

“In early '79 there were farm tractors, BIG ones, parked around The Mall in Washington as part of a farmer's protest.

In February '79 we got over two feet of snow and the tractors were helping pull people through it.

I don't recall any "Jimmy Carter's gas lines".
There may have been a price spike or two that year.

I think there was some kinda petroleum shortage in '76 that conswervatives liked to blame Carter for.....hmmmmm, maybe it was in the '80 campaign....he was inaugurated in January '77.”

“A guy tried the farm tractor thing a few months back. It didn't go so well for him though.”

“Not only did I not See any gas lines, I don't recall Hearing of any on the news or hearing anyone discussing the existence of gas lines in 1979... so you can see how I might think you were referring to the earlier event. I was in Jr. high in '73. I remember those quite well.

In that context, I wonder how great a problem it might have been. I think prices went up, but the supply problems of 1973 did not materialize.”

“I've read accounts of the "gas crisis" in '73 being cooked-up by the industry to push the Alaska Pipeline.

They testified to Congress that America needed that North Slope oil to decrease dependancy on foreign oil.

It all goes to Asia.”

“Tilt, you're an old fart compared to me, so your memory would serve better. I'm relying on memory of what I've read. I seem to recall that price per barrel increased almost 3X. Given that, I may have spoke too soon in assuming a 3x price increase led to long lines at the pumps. However, I still contend that these "strong arm" tactics by the oil producing countries could have been handled better by the Carter admin.”

“I don't recall any American president handling OPEC very well.

Threats and bluster from various administrations have not cowed any of these "rouges".

And the oil companies are in cahoots with those oil-producing countries anyway.”

“And the oil companies are in cahoots with those oil-producing countries anyway."
Tom Terrific
02:46:36 PM
08/07/03
I have to agree somewhat. Unfortunately, it appears for now that Saudi Arabia has a free ride.”