Bush still a scumbag

“ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Graphic images that purport to show corpses of Saddam Hussein's sons hit airwaves and Web sites Thursday, but the ethical debate surrounding their release has been bubbling since news of their deaths became public knowledge.

The arguments for releasing the pictures included that it would show Iraqis that the key figures in the old regime were dead.

On the other side of the argument is that the United States has a long history of not making public pictures of those killed in military actions and that it could open the door for future enemies to make public photos of dead U.S. personnel.

Uday and Qusay Hussein were killed Tuesday in a U.S. raid on a house in Mosul, Iraq, after a tipster revealed their location, U.S. officials say, adding that dental and X-ray records confirmed the identities of the bodies. The U.S.-led provisional authority in Iraq decided to release their death photos to convince Iraqi doubters.

The release of the pictures showing the damaged heads and shoulders of the brothers represents a departure from U.S. practices. (Photos released)

"From a value standpoint, image standpoint as a country, this is not something we do," said CNN military analyst retired Air Force Maj. Don Shepperd. "The fact they [the U.S.-led administration] decided to do this is a significant decision. Of course, there is an overriding reason to do it now. There has to be an overriding reason to do something of this sort and depart from things we've done for decades."

Shepperd said the U.S. government stressed that the U.S. military was not releasing the photos -- the coalition provisional authority was making them public. "What we don't want to do is... set up a situation where every time we have a military operation, we end up with pictures of dead Americans, or us releasing photos of people from a military standpoint," he said.

Just what we needed, a scumbag president. Certainly this story meets the following criteria:

*Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
*Uncertainty avoidance
*Need for cognitive closure
*Terror management”

“Bush is not a scum bag. I am.

I want to see pictures of these two fuks with their severed genitalia in their mouths. You bet. I want to see their nut sacs on their chins.

Too gross for you? Don't worry I would be more than happy to carve these corpses with a dull boy scout knife.”

“I gotta agree with bacpac on this one.”

“So you're saying it's ok for US soldiers to be seen the same way?

Yes, you are a scumbag.”

“I want to see pictures of these two fuks with their severed genitalia in their mouths. You bet. I want to see their nut sacs on their chins.

Too gross for you? Don't worry I would be more than happy to carve these corpses with a dull boy scout knife."
bacpac

*Fear and agression
*Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
*Uncertainty avoidance
*Need for cognitive closure
*Terror management”

“Alaska, quit ripping off my ideas.”

“And by the way, it was a good idea to show the bodies.”

“It would not have been a good idea to show the bodies with their dicks in their mouths, but I would have enjoyed it, because I am a scum bag.”

“The bodies been shown...this time cleaned up and made up. Iraqis loyal to Saddam (and some Westerners) still insist that those bodies are not the sons of Saddam.”

“way to tell it bacpac,I'm with you.”

“If they didn't show them you'd be calling him a scumbag liar for not being "forthcoming" and "proving" that we got them. This is you tactic, throw everything you can get your hands on against the wall and hope something sticks.

What a dildo...”

“Alaska should be ashamed for getting horny when the Pentagon showed the dead pictures of Uday and Quesay.”

“What about Sadaam's forgotten sons:

Sunday, Queasy and e bay...”

“Oh, and I forgot Cheez-ay”

“They're all dead-ay!

So where are these photos on line? I think if you agree to send off people to fight and die for you it is important for you to be very altruist about it. If you send ‘em and say, “No no no! We don’t want to see that!”, then you don’t have the stomach to support a conflict. Alaska being a supposed WWII vet I’m surprised at his squeamishness and his fear of facing the outcomes of war. Unless of course it’s just another way for him to attack Bush.”

“You can cut their nuts off.

I think punks relate to each other.”

“I have no problem with the showing the sons if it is going to have the intended effects. I don't know if it will or not - but I don't see anything outlandish about doing it.

There is a bit of hypocrisy in the way the Bush folks screamed about the Arab newsmedia showing dead and captured US soldiers. There is also the risk that there will be more depictions of US military dead in the media because of this.

Some means are never justified, but these means are easily justified if the ends are acheived.”

“There's plenty of historical precedent for the public display of dead dictators. Of course, this is not the middle ages anymore, but, if we were going to pick a spot on earth that was closest to the middle ages...”

“Should have sold the pics for $30 million ,so the people that didn't get much of a tax cut wouldn't have to pay.”

“This story also meets the following criteria:

*Pacifism and appeasement
*Responsibility avoidance
*Need for causes to protest
*Wishing someone would do something about the problems

[Ref: Understanding Conservatives Thread]”

“Bush has turned this country into the scum of the earth. Time for Bush to step aside and stop the destruction of the USA.”

“Six months before the presidential election, Rumsfeld's acceptance of responsibility drew a tart response from Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic challenger to Bush. "The chain of command goes all the way to the Oval Office," said the Massachusetts senator. "Harry Truman did not say, 'The buck stops at the Pentagon."'

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters, "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience." He did not elaborate.



This so called president is the worst nightmare ever inflicted on America. Bush is a jacka$$ just like all republicans who don't responsiblity for anything, and blame everyone else.

I don't want to pay taxes.
I don't want to serve in Vietnam.
I didn't know about the warnings before 9/11.
I was in the dark about the torture in Iraq.


Republicans are scum.”

“Blame the poor for being poor.

Blame 9/11 on the CIA.

Blame the torture on the pentagon.

Scum.”

“so, what are you trying to say?”

“Whoever you are you can't defend this circus with good faith---unless it's christian faith---cowboys humbug.Bye.”

“I'm always amazed at people who have such broad brushes with which they paint the world they see.... "All Repubs are this, all Dems are that", etc. These people are truly bigots by the strict definition of the word, they judge based upon some "label", it's the same as saying all blacks are XXX, all Asians are YYY.

So, help me understand this phenomon. In your case USA, is your education level so low that you can't look at anyone with a less bigoted view... I'm guessing maybe you didn't make it our of elementary school? Help us understand.”

“Show me a Republican who is not scum.”

“Senator John McCain is the first to come to mind.

I'm getting a tad fed up with all this generalizing...it happens too much on both sides.

All whiners suck!”

“First tell me if you always judge an entire group by the actons of a few? Are all blacks lazy & shiftless? Are all American INdian's alcoholoics? Are all people of Arab descent terrorists?

Don't you see how harmful your immature and outrageous commenst are? You don't advance dialogue or understanding, you retard it. You seem to believe that he who shouts the loudest wins the debate.”

“Hey Wanderer, USA/Alaska is an idealogue hypocrite. Pretty much everyone already understands this, but you've done a good job of pointing it out to those who might not already know.

Don't let him bug you.”

“Senator John McCain is the first to come to mind. -mtnsteve


John McCain supports George Dubya Bush, therefore he, like all Bush supporters, are scum. You support Bush, you support scum, therefore you are scum. Anyone who belongs to a party which is gun-ho about protecting the unborn fetus, but killing innocent people in Iraq is ok, is a hypocritical scumbag.

Anyone who supports a party which whines about paying taxes to support the poor and underpriviliged is scum because they don't complain about the corporate welfare doled out to the very priviliged.

Anyone who supports a liar is scum. Bush is one hellava liar.

Anyone who supports a president who blames a few soldiers for the torture in Iraq is scum. This behavior is typical of republicans... never take reponsibility, shift blame, lie, spin, propaganda. Bush knew detainees were being tortured, but is playing some sick game of being "out of the loop".


You vote republican... you are republican... you are scum.”

“More evidence of a Bush administration lie and cover-up:


(CBS/AP) As President Bush defended the performance of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, a newly-released report by the Red Cross challenges Bush administration assertions that the abusive treatment of Iraqi prisoners were isolated incidents.

For the record, U.S. military and civilian officials say they first became aware of serious accusations of prisoner abuse back in January, when they started an investigation. But the International Red Cross is telling a much different story -- saying its investigators raised the alarm months earlier, reports CBS News Correspondent Mark Philips

The "bad apple theory" -- that abuse of Iraqi detainees was done by a misguided few coalition soldiers -- has been seriously challenged in the Red Cross report that has now become public. Based on its inspections at various coalition holding areas and prisons in Iraq between March and November of last year, the Red Cross says it found not isolated incidents but a "consistent pattern ... of brutal behavior' .

The now infamous images of hooded, naked, prisoners are just examples -- the Red Cross says -- of systematic 'physical and psychological coercion' that is 'tantamount to torture'.

"We are talking about the places of detention all over Iraq, in the south, in the center of Iraq, all places we visited had similar pattern of behavior and treatment -- which is not acceptable," said Roland Huguenin-Benjamin, with the agency's International Committee.

The report adds that these methods were not only used "in a systematic way," but that when its inspectors confronted coalition prison authorities and demanded an explanation, they were told the treatment was "part of the process."

The Red Cross says it presented its findings to local commanders last year and made a full report to the highest levels of Coalition Forces three months ago.

Combined with the world-wide publication and broadcast of examples of prisoner abuse -- the report has undermined the US aim of broadening international support and involving the U.N. in Iraq.

"There is a kind of moral blowback effect. Who wants to be associated with an actor -- be it an army or a state-- that allows this kind of thing to go on in its prisons,'' says political and military analyst Michael McGinty.

Monday evening, the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution condemning the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison. The 92-0 vote calls for a "full and complete investigation to ensure justice is served" and urges that anyone responsible be held accountable. It also apologizes to the prisoners and their families. The non-binding resolution also stresses that the vast majority of Americans in Iraq are serving "courageously and with great honor."

Earlier Monday, President Bush visited embattled Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and gave the Pentagon chief a vote of confidence amid a swirling scandal over prisoner abuse.

"You are courageously leading our nation in the war on terrorism. You are doing a superb job," Mr. Bush said. "You are a strong secretary of defense and our nation owes you a debt of gratitude."



The torture orders were approved at the very highest levels of command, meaning Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. These mothers have disgraced the country and need to be held accountable.”

“Here's another republican scumbag...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/inhofe.abuse/index.html”

“I guess those Iraqis that chopped off the American civilian's head were more SCUMMY.”

“Inhofe is a douche. The Red Cross report said 70-90% of those prisoners were arrested by mistake.”