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...And should be expelled from all of Israel, including the so-called "occupied territories"! After seeing all the carnage the latest suicidal maniac did in Jerusalem, if I were the Prime Minister of the State of Israel I would load all the "Palestinians" on buses and take them to the Jordanian border and force them to take a hike over the Jordan and not come back. Ever! Then build a fence to keep these crazies out of Israel for good. Such animals deserve NO state of their own! They are not civilized and deserve no homeland, at least in Israel. Let the Arabs assimilate them into their lands since they are ALL of the same Arab nation anyhow! That's just I feel about this.
Ohio Hiker
3:14:07 PM
8/21/03

I do believe it is time we untie the hands of Israel that they may defend themselve. We see nothing wrong with going half way around the world in order to bring to justice those we know attacked us yet when Israel knows who did it and they are in their own back yard (and the front one too) we tell them, "No no no! Peace! Peace!".

We (USA) speak out both sides of our mouth when it comes to fighting terror. Not only should we unleash Israel on Hamas but we should be right next to them in the fight.
Nigal
3:21:09 PM
8/21/03

If I read newspapers or had a TV, I'd probably feel the same outrage you feel. Only I don't, because I shelter my spirit from the butchery known as "The News," mostly to remain loving and kind to all the world's creatures, including its various nations. (I doubt I could if I followed the latest...)
natalio
3:22:23 PM
8/21/03

Yes, the palis wrecked the peace yet again. Israel, go get 'em.
Mutt
3:40:09 PM
8/21/03

So I guess Ohio Hiker is an animal and a flaming bigot. You people who would punish all members of a particular ethinic group or religion because of the acts of a few are diseased.

Seek help.
Tilt
3:41:15 PM
8/21/03

Tilt
3:42:14 PM
8/21/03

Tilt, the pali population overwhelmingly supports the terrorists. The terrorists purposely target civilians, including children. The palis are always the first to aggress. The palis refused statehood when it was offered. They truly want nothing more than to drive the jews into the sea. It's very unfortunate for those few palis who see the folly in all this.
Mutt
3:46:32 PM
8/21/03

You live in New York nat, ey? How did you feel after some these same people ran planes into the World Trade Center buildings? How would you have felt if a loved one was in one the the buildings that day.

I am not attacking you, but you may want to take a look into what is going on here. I agree with Ohio on this one. These people are training their kids to strap bombs to their chests to kill as many people as possible.

It is a sad to see so many people bent on killing and destroying everything possible.
Wounded Knee
3:50:01 PM
8/21/03

Bigot? Not hardly! The Palestinians? The biggest bigots the Jews have ever known! Just like the Nazis! Arafat is just like Adolf Hitler! Bigots! Antisemites!

Tilt the flaming liberal, go buy the ALPS Taurus tent. It's on sale at REI-Outlet.com and the Downright Sierra Mummy Bag. MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY.

Nigal, I knew we would see eye to eye on this one. I fully support the Jewish people and the State of Israel even if you get a different opinion from my other thread. Israel is in my prayers! To hate Israel is to hate Jesus Christ. God will curse those who curse the Jews. (Gen.12:4).
Ohio Hiker
3:55:18 PM
8/21/03

Case in point. I no longer remain kind and loving to all because I permitted the news to infiltrate me. Damn!

I'm not making light of things here - Wounded Knee, you're totally right. And I agree, that it's profoundly sad.

Philosophical question: What is the gain for humanity if I DO look into the news story here? What is the loss if I, personally, never know?
natalio
3:55:50 PM
8/21/03



"[All Plestinians] should be expelled from all of Israel...]

I agree. We should relocate them to Ohio.

Forrest
4:00:54 PM
8/21/03

"Ohio Hiker" you are one sick fuck.

PROFESSIONAL help.
Tilt
4:01:04 PM
8/21/03

this thread is so bigoted and hateful, i can't begin to respond to it.
jmitch
4:08:46 PM
8/21/03

not to mention ignorant.
currahee
4:12:46 PM
8/21/03

What I said was merely the truth.
Mutt
4:20:03 PM
8/21/03

" How did you feel after some these same people ran planes into the World Trade Center buildings?"
WoundedKnee


Chit!!! The Palestinians flew the jets into the TWC?!? And all this time I thought it was the Iraqis.
Limpy
4:23:19 PM
8/21/03

I concur with Tilt and jmitch.
chili36
4:24:37 PM
8/21/03

mutt,

truth????

no, it is not, it defines ignorance and bigotry. don't you dare flatter yourself by stating the "truth" is that an entire people should be punished for the actions of a few.
jmitch
4:25:21 PM
8/21/03


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This is five month old Shmuel Tabenfeld. He and his mother were killed on the bus full of orthodox Jews who were returning from worshipping at the Western Wall. Is this the face of the Israeli Army?


BTW- He and his mother are Americans...
Nigal
4:25:49 PM
8/21/03

I agree with you fully Nigal. The Bush administration is hypocrital when it come to the State of Israel defending itself. We get attacked ONCE and we are all over the world fighting those responsible with our "War on Terror". Israel is continuously attacked by these murderers (yes, I'm calling what they truly are-MURDERERS!) and our government sits here and actually lectures Israel to "show restraint" and other such stupid things. And also threatens to reduce the amount of aid (loan guarentees, that is) if Israel does things to help prevent terror attacks against their own people, such as hunting down those responsible, building the wall to separate Israeli's from Palestinians (to prevent terrorist from infilterating Israel), etc, etc. That really burns me up!

Yes, WE should be fighting along side with the Israeli's (our true friends in the Middle East)! I fully agree!
Ohio Hiker
4:26:52 PM
8/21/03

how's this:

I think that Israel should UNILATERALLY create a Palestian state.

Withdraw from the occupied territories, kick or forcialby remove every last settler from the areas in dispute.

Then, and only then, when their hands are clean . . .will they have free rein to kick some butt.

THEN they can hold a free and independent palestian state responsible for the terrorism.

Instead they are half in and half out . ..some israel's want to get out the west bank, but the settler's and ultr othodox want to keep then.

Draw a bright line. Create the state, Pull out of the west bank and all the settlements.

Then be unmericful and brutual to any f-ing terrorist who blows up a bus. Or any state, or political group.


Right now they are in a the mess up to ther hips, they bear a lot of responsiblity for their own situation (not the bombings, just the situation).
lee
4:26:58 PM
8/21/03

I do not feel the whole of the Pali population should pay for the crimes of Hamas and the like but Israel DOES and SHOULD have the right to bring to justice the members of these groups. Nothing bigotted nor hatefull about that.
Nigal
4:28:46 PM
8/21/03

don't you dare flatter yourself by stating the "truth" is that an entire people should be punished for the actions of a few.

Actions of a few?!?!! Have you seen the polls of pali support for the terrorists? I have. Overwhelming support. The terrorists wouldn't be able to operate on the scale they do were it not for broad popular support. Please, read a little before jumping in with ad homs based on ignorance.

And what else is Israel supposed to do? They offered the palis 95% of what they claimed they wanted, and the palis walked away from it without even bargaining in good faith. THE PALIS DON'T WANT PEACE!
Mutt
4:30:09 PM
8/21/03

i agree nigal, hamas should be obliterated. these attacks on civilians are sickening.
jmitch
4:31:32 PM
8/21/03

lee you should email that plan to Dubya.
Mutt
4:31:46 PM
8/21/03

The Jews deserve none of this. They are the ONLY civilized people in the whole Middle East. I count the Israeli's as my brothers. If this makes me some bigot so be it.

I did buy that Downright Mummy Bag Tilt, but I don't need to purchase the ALPS Taurus, seeing I already own one. Great tent!
Ohio Hiker
4:34:09 PM
8/21/03

So I guess Ohio Hiker is an animal and a flaming bigot. You people who would punish all members of a particular ethinic group or religion because of the acts of a few are diseased.

Seek help."
Tilt
03:41:15 PM
08/21/03

Please ignore this Ohio Hiker, this was meant for me on another thread concerning France.... lol!
Buddha Bear
4:39:58 PM
8/21/03

mutt,

i wish i had the time to engage in ridiculous debate.

but i'd rather watch as you exhaust yourself pontificating your self-righteousness.
jmitch
4:40:40 PM
8/21/03

Maybe someone should invite the Palestinians on a TT hike.

Ali Akbar
bacpac
4:41:26 PM
8/21/03

This is for all you bleading heart Liberals: Open your minds (I'm not going to call you names like you do me-that's a Liberal thing!) and ask yourselves who is attacking who.
Ohio Hiker
4:41:40 PM
8/21/03

I believe the Israeli's are as big a terrorist as the Palestinians. They just STOLE land from the arabs and they keep expanding their boundaries. We didn't want them here after WW2. The US would have wiped out Canada or Mexico if they ever tried to expand their borders.We'd all be better off if they turned the middle east into a sheet of glass.
catskhiker
4:46:26 PM
8/21/03

I hate to burst your bubbles, boys, but thesimple fact is that neither side has any sort of monopoly on righteousness OR evil, no matter what their PR people may say.
Tilt
4:47:19 PM
8/21/03

How foolish to even suggest that the Jews "stole" Arab land! Very unimformed to say the least!

Kind of strange though: Apparantly none other than God himself "stole" the Land of Israel when he covenanted with Abramham, Issac and Jacob (NOT Ishmael!) to give the land to the Jewish people FOREVER. My Bible tells me different, and I read the KJV, a "Christian" version.

By the way, who did he "steal" so-called "Palestine" from? The Canaanites perhaps since there was NO "Palestinians"??? I wonder!
Ohio Hiker
5:04:50 PM
8/21/03

Sorry, dude. You still ain't the Buddha, LOL
Tilt
5:06:12 PM
8/21/03

There are two sides to every argument, unless one of the parties is personally involved.
bacpac
5:08:34 PM
8/21/03

No, I'm not the Buddha. I'm my own person. Thankyou.
Ohio Hiker
5:11:07 PM
8/21/03

Nigal, I agree with your position. I think it underscores my position in that we shouldn't be the world cops.

Ohio Hiker, I don't find my feelings on this to have anything to do with my political views (i.e. liberal),,,I do however, find them to be directly related to my position as a human who inhabits this planet and believes in the sanctity and value of all human life.
chili36
5:16:33 PM
8/21/03

Does anyone else backpack in a smagh?

Ali Akbar!
bacpac
5:17:37 PM
8/21/03

Jeeez, "OH". Buy a clue, wouldja?
Tilt
5:22:14 PM
8/21/03

Hey Tilt, next time please ride one of those Egged Buses and when one of your Palestinian "friends" decides to board the bus and blow himself and everyone else to bits, PLEASE inform me in the next life what it was like! Will you do that? Seeing you like Palestinian terrorist so much.

Buy a clue yourself.
Ohio Hiker
5:40:41 PM
8/21/03



ye gods and little fishes.

Tilt
5:49:32 PM
8/21/03

THIS THREAD SUCKS
Phaedrus
5:52:09 PM
8/21/03



I have an encyclopedia (Compton's) dating from 1935. It lists the country in the area we now call "Israel" as "Palestine." Israel was created by the UN, not God (whoever THAT is).

Religious arguments are often used to justify genocide. If we follow the charter of the Crusades, then we have a religious duty to eradicate BOTH the Jews AND the Muslims in order to liberate the Holy Lands from the Unbelievers.

Forrest
5:54:05 PM
8/21/03

Guess what Chili? The Palestinians don't gave a flying fig about the "sanctity of human life", but the Israeli's do however.

Ever notice how the IDF goes out of their way NOT to harm Palestinian civilians? However, the Palestinian terrorist deliberately murder Israeli's, men and women, children, young and old alike. Their goal is to kill as many Jews as possible. It squarely puts the blame on the Palestinians, not the Israeli's! Jews love life!
Ohio Hiker
5:54:15 PM
8/21/03

I'm so glad you mentioned that Forrest. Palestine wasn't a country but simply a geographic region. The "Palestine myth" wasn't created until the mid sixties under the PLO.

Actually, so-called "Palestinians" was simply Arabs, part of the Arab Nation, just like Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, etc. There were no "Palestinians" until the mid '60's when the PLO cooked up this lie. They are simply Arabs.
Ohio Hiker
6:14:28 PM
8/21/03



Generalisms like "Jews love life" are just as fascist as saying "Muslims hate life." There are good Jews and there are bad Jews, just like any other group of people.

The Palestinians are fighting the only way available to them - guerilla warfare. The Native Americans fought the same way to try to preserve their homes. We know what happened to the Native Americans.

Much of your rhetoric against the Palestinians smacks of the same sort of polemic that was used to justify wiping out the Native Americans - "The only good Injun is a DEAD Injun!" America is still trying to deal with its own guilt in killing off the prior inhabitants of the New World (been to a reservation lately? They're really sad places). Israel will also have to answer to itself some day in the way it is seeking to eradicate the Palestinians.

Forrest
6:15:29 PM
8/21/03

Jews are land grabbing bullies; Palestinians are money grubbing psycopaths.

I used to think this at one time, but the United States has poured enough money into this sink hole to erase the National debt ten fold.

Maybe it is time to start loading ships with Mexicans and letting them take over.
bacpac
6:16:49 PM
8/21/03



"There were no 'Palestinians' until the mid '60's when the PLO cooked up this lie."

And there were no 'Israelis' until the UN renamed the Arab land of Palestine and "allowed" European Jewish survivors of the Holocaust to emigrate there.

Forrest
6:20:43 PM
8/21/03

the ignorance in this thread is staggering...
..I shouldn't even post. Oskar, look at what you've posted and THINK for a change. Your broad sweeping generalities make you look bigoted and downright foolish.

Your heading:

"The _______ are animals!"

Insert what you will-

N*ggers Southerners Slovaks
Irish Jews Japs
Poles Gays Italians
Christians Ohioans left-handed people

Do you see how stupid you sound? You wouldn't dare substitute any of these words in your opening paragraph (or else you are more twisted than you appear!). I would hate for everyone to lump me in with you because we are both Christians. Nothing disgusts me more than using faith to disguise hatred, except knee-jerk reactionism. Try to think beyond your little square. Pali + bombing means all Palestinians = Evil? Do a search on Google and see how many organizations ON BOTH sides are seeking a peaceful resolution!!

Is ALPS aware of your views on this? Remember, if not your own conscience, think of ALPS... They might not like you representing their product line.
badger73
6:31:20 PM
8/21/03

Forrest, are you the product of the liberal education system? I thought I must ask, seeing today's Colleges and institutions of higher learning are the hot beds of the "New Antisemitism".

How ironic. Are our Universities STILL disinvesting in Israel?

Antisemitism is in vogue now, even though it is done SO subtley.
Ohio Hiker
6:35:11 PM
8/21/03

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