DraftWesleyClark.com

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I don’t know about anyone else but as usual, I’m less than thrilled about the current roster of candidates. I know I’ll be voting for anyone but Bush but I’d like to vote for someone I believe in for a change. I’ve been following the news of a potential General Wesley Clark candidacy with great interest and feel he would be a great choice.

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“The same Wesley Clark who in Kosovo tried to order the British to attack the Russians who had stationed themselves at the airport but was told, "I'm not going to start World War III for you."”

“Interesting, violin, but do you think this country is going to elect anyone from Little Rock again anytime soon?

I am still leaning towards Dean.”

“While I didn't find that article to be very fact oriented, I did not with some interest, that I would expect the Commander of NATO to be alarmed that the Russians were taking over an airport with plans to fly thousands of troops into the theater.”

“I’m sorry if I don’t see how timidity on the part of a British General is a black mark against Clark.”

“Hell yeah Vio, what does a President need good judgment for?”

“Why do military strategists insist on unity of command?”

“Without more facts, I can't see where his judgment can be questioned.

Perhaps his did use bad judgment, perhaps he didn't. But from the article cited, I would expect NATO to react in the method they did.”

“"I'm not going to start the Third World War for you," the British commander reportedly told General Clark during one heated exchange.”

“Hey chili - from CNN.com

"...I think Wes Clark, he's somebody I keep in close touch with. He's a terrific person, very bright, very capable, very thoughtful. Our views coincide on a number of matters, and he is -- I certainly can't say enough good things about him. It would be tough to run against him."
- Howard Dean to Wolf Blitzer

They're trying to VEEP him.”

“In any event, ynami, it looks like Clark had the situation under control by the time NATO forces arrived.

From what I can tell from that article, it looks like the Russians tried to sucker punch NATO and got called out.

Nice quote, but what about the one where the Secretary General of Nato gave Clark the go ahead?”

“It will be interesting, to say the least, Violin.”

“ok, but Clark was willing to fuse force to take back the airport, force which wasn't necessary and an easy solution was found a few days later once all the fuss had died down. He was also removed from his post for "administrative" reasons shortly after that.
I think Kosovo generally went very well once the troops went in, and long-term has been a great success. This could have all gone horribly wrong had there been a firefight with the Russians at Pristina airport.”

“I will give him a look. I still lean toward Dean. (That could almost be a slogan.)
Whoever runs on the Dem ticket needs to have the guts to tell it like it is, ask where the WMD's are, ask about the deficit, ask about the corporate profits continuing to rise while employment continues to tumble, ask about a failed environmental policy.....
There are many issues to address.”

“One of the reasons I like Clark is that I think that to win in the current environment, the Democratic candidate needs national security credentials. Dean can always bring the right people into his campaign but if you watched Clark on CNN during the run-up to the war, you know he knows his #&%!$.”

“"I think Kosovo generally went very well once the troops went in, and long-term has been a great success."
ynamiynami

I think that the success in Kosovo depends on your point of view. If you are an Ethnic Albanian, it was great, but if you are Kosovar Serb, it sucked.”

“The NY Times is reporting that a friend of Clark's said the general has decided to run.”

“Velly intellesting....”

“Good. That should make the race a little more interesting, although I suspect he's starting off from the middle of the pack.”

“It reminds me of what I read about how the Democrats tried to get Ike to run..., but then he ran as a Republican. Of course, Ike turned out to be a pretty solid president.”

“There's a lot of hatred for Clark on the Right.”

“They just don't make Republicans like they usta!

<VBG>”

“GAWD ---- LOL”

“Rumors are swirling that Hillary Clinton will run if Clark decides not to.

Talk about your hatred from the right.”

“i hope clake runs...or hillary...or any of them, it doesn't matter.


dow jones finished the month up....six months in a row.

nasdaq finished it's 7th month of increases.

the economy grew at around 5% up for the quarter.

americans don't trust libbies on national security matters, and rightfully so.

grey-out davis is criminally negligent.

face it guys, you got 5 more years of whining left to do....


VBG”

“A lot of good men and women won't be doing any whining........”

“"Rumors are swirling that Hillary Clinton will run if Clark decides not to.

Talk about your hatred from the right."
vIoLiN
07:42:22 PM
08/29/03

And left.”

“I was really hoping Chuck Heston would run.”

“But Clark can speak in complete sentences, even if no one pulls his wind-up cord. That's gotta count for something among the above-the-LCD crowd.”

“Americans don't trust Bush on matters of national security.

Lying to the public to justify war with Iraq is but one example.”

“he didn't lie, but you just did tommiegun....


"A lot of good men and women won't be doing any whining........"
chili36

chili, i think you are a very good man. i have a ton of respect for you and am always happy to hear what you have to say. i think you are a throwback to the days when liberals fought for what's right and needed. i also believe that your party has left you in the dust of their plight for power. they have long since forgotten about the little guy and now only live to obtain and retain power. i can site example after example as to how liberals dont' really care about solving the problems they pretend to care about. your lofty principals, your admirable wish to do good in the world is mocked and tainted by the very people you uphold to be the champoions of such causes. oh sure, i'll agree that there are good liberals out there, who have truely good intentions and i would site you as a shining example. but i will never understand your blind faith in people that have no more motivation than to be carreer polititians and drink from the lusty cup of the elite power brokers. it's just my opinion, but i think you have been duped, my good and eternal friend.”

“Personally, I haven't noticed Chili expressing a lot of faith in individual political leaders, or in any political party - certainly not anything approaching "blind" faith.

I could be missing something since I only read a fraction of the threads and posts here, but Chili seems to express support for principles, not faith in leaders.”

“Correct pedxing.”

“Yep. Them dang libs is trying to get "power", unlike the conservatives who only want what is right and good for this here country.”

“Time to return honor and dignity to the White House.”

“When was the last time we had that?”

“With all due respect for ya, Strats, I have haven't seen a person who couldn't see the forest through the trees in a real long time. I find it very interesting that you, no matter what the issue is, revert to liberal bashing and not even welcome the sprit of debate, from the basis of educated points and facts. Ya just through gas on the fire and walk away. I don't mean to call ya out on this, but I just don't get it.”

“laqis, it's like this. the leadership, the guys who actually run the democratic party, are full of garbonzo beans. the followers of liberals thought are not the bad guys, it's the leaders. liberalism is a mental disorder.

look at it this way....if liberalism suceeds, if they solve all the problems they say they support, then there is no longer a need for the leaders. they can't do their job, they can't fix racism for example, because then it would mean they would loose power. it's an industry. it's a scam that has evolved to keep the ruling class elite in their place, as well as to keep the underclass in it's place. i think alot of liberal ideals, in their purest form, without human corruption, are noble and good causes. but they have been tainted by the luse for power, and the thrill of ruling.

i know there are bad conservatives. but it's the ideals that i believe in and defend. that you and me have the power within us to plot our own destiny. that freedom gives us all the tools necessary to live a happy and prosperous life and government is not the answer to all of your problems.


ped, chili most definatly has lofty principals, as i duely noted in my post. but the people he most often agrees with have none. that is my point.”

“There is a big difference between saying things that are similar to what Joe Politician says, and having faith in Joe Politician.”

“very well said, i agree...”

“This thread is none of your business strat. Please stay on the IWantToHaveDubyasBaby.com thread.”

“ped, chili most definatly has lofty principals, as i duely noted in my post. but the people he most often agrees with have none

stratdewd
12:11:34 AM




Hey Strat! Chili has agreed with my views on several occasions. Are you saying that I have no principles? And if you are, where do you gets the gonads to make an assumption like that?”

“Treebeard, you have to realize,,,,


In strats opinion, all politicians who line up left of Rush, have no pricipales.

God, to think people with no priciples brought us things like....


oh,,,,, say the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which in my opinion was the single most important piece of legislation to affect society in this country)....


People without principles sure can do the strangest things,,don't you think?”

“Yeah, Chili! Ain't it a kick on the head?”

“"it's an industry. it's a scam that has evolved to keep the ruling class elite in their place, as well as to keep the underclass in it's place. i think alot of liberal ideals, in their purest form, without human corruption, are noble and good causes. but they have been tainted by the luse for power, and the thrill of ruling"

Geez!
I'm trying to find a translator for this at with no luck.
What country or planet is this stratdewd from?”

“....a translator at "dictionary.com", that is.”

“I don't agree with Stratdewd on this, but he's right on this: social problems do play an integral, important role in the economy - it is an industry, in a sense. Sociology 101.”