Is Eternal Security True?

“I hear alot of discussion concerning the doctrine of Eternal Security. It's the teaching of "when one accepts Christ as one's personal saviour that person is saved for all time and eternity". Charles Stanley is one of the big proponents of this Doctrine alond with most Bible-believing churches. What's the truth on this most important subject?”

“The truth is...YOU"RE NUTCASE WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION!!!”

“I guess Buddur doesn't have the answer or the Holy Spirit of God. Perhaps the spirit of the Prince of this world would be a better description.”

“...to gain the whole world but lose one's own soul is the worst of all things. This is not a matter to be taken lightly!”

“Isn't that the Stanley Steamer guy that cleans carpets?”

“Charles Stanley from In Touch Ministries.”

“yes it is true. but you need to relize this, there is more than one place to have this eternal security. it is possible for you to end up in a place forever that you don't want to be. look at it like a bad investment if you want. would you ask a broke person for advice on investments. i would suggest you seek this advice from a different site. some trails lead to the same place, some go the same way for a while, then they take you to the wrong place. sounds like you are getting lost.”

“You can probably answer your question better than most of us. But what I suspect your getting at is the long running debate between Calvinism and Arminianism. ”

“HEY WHO THE HECK WROTE THAT POST that looks like my name is attached???

Sumpthin wieeeeerd is going on!!!!!”

“inquire within~~~”

“So the presumption is that unless you accept Jesus as G-d and savoir you can not attain salvation?

Can you show me where in the Tanack it says that one most accept a messiah as G-d to gain salvation?”

“No, no presumption. you are on the wrong trail.”

“You folks would find more common sense arguing with a rock than the resident dimwit. Click the ignore button and move along. Nothing here!”

“These threads sure make for fast reading when the opening post and at least three others are just a [+]”

“Actually, I want to know. This is one of life's most important things. To gain the whole world but lose your own soul would indeed be most horrible. Jesus said to believe on him one would have eternal life, didn't he?”

“I live by the golden rule.”

“Then why ask us? No one here is a priest.

Personally I do not believe in Eternal Security or "once saved always saved" as I was taught to call it. I find most people I meet who belive in eternal security are those who use it to justify thier own poor behaviour here in life. Paul Hill being one current hideous example.

The possibility of falling out of grace holds much biblical precedence. For example, Satan himself once once an angel who fell from grace. If an angel can fall from grace then why not a mere flawed human?”

“I speak to God on a regular basis. What would you like to know? I'll ask.”

“Phaeddy,

please ask God;

Why are all Sousaphones tubas, but not all tubas are Sousaphones?

I've pondered this question, like, forever.

Thanks”

“..for your honest answer. I'm not sure what to believe but I'm open to all opinions. Once again, thanks.”

“When is a pen!s in a woman's mouth not sex?”

“He knows! "I did NOT have sex with that woman", remember that how he lied to the American people? And also turned the White House into the Whore House, never forget that!”

“Cap'n Bobo, God says that it's the same reason all roses are flowers but not all flowers are roses.

Ohio Hiker, God says to lay off the Doritoes and quit smoking so much pot.”

“Bacpac, God says "When she's chewing".”

“...I value YOUR opinion and respect YOU very much so I ask YOU this most important question. I hope you take it as a compliment as it truly is. Thanks very much.

I know you are not a Priest.”

“I know you are not a Priest."
Ohio Hiker
01:12:01 PM
09/06/03
ignore this user

He knows from his days as an altarboy.”

“Capn Bobo

I'm not God, but here goes.

The Sousaphone is a style of bass tuba. Tubas that are built in the circular form are called "Helicons" and the bell (opening) is fixed and faces forward.

John Philip Sousa thought that the standard helicon style of tuba worked fine for parades and the like but its tone was apt to shoot ahead too prominently and explosively to suite him for concert performances. Sousa spoke to Mr. Pepper of the JWPepper music company and asked him to develop a helicon whose bell was adjustable so that it could be positioned to face forward for parade playing and adjusted upwards for concert playing. Mr. Pepper loved the idea and called the new bass horn a Sousaphone.

So only helicon form tubas with adjustable bells are sousaphones.”

“"Bacpac, God says "When she's chewing"."
Phaedrus
01:10:34 PM
09/06/03

LOLOLOLOL”

“As much as this thread should die, I want to thank God and HPM for answering my question.

I was stone.. er, stunned. Sounds like HPM did alittle double B flat in his days. Only God show know so much about Tubas?”