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LOL! That's an interesting point arc, they kept telling us he was a madman - and then seem stunned at the prospect that he might have behaved irrationally.

If I get what your drift, you are saying that, even if Hussein's cojones were lopped off he would rather take some heat than drop his pants for the whole world to see. I don't know if its true, but it seems highly plausible.
pedxing
12:27:51 PM
11/03/03

the Washington Post has a story today in relation to that - it's worth looking at. That he was convinced, even when troops moved into Iraq, that it was all a bluff.
ynamiynami
12:32:21 PM
11/03/03

That was a good one. Thanks yuohwefuhj.
ViOLiN
9:51:42 PM
11/03/03


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2scoops
08:26:01 PM
11/02/03
Alaska
9:54:45 PM
11/03/03

Bush Wants to be Fighter Pilot Again for Halloween
Washington - According to a senior White House source, President George W. Bush has told his handlers that he "really, really" wants to be a Fighter Pilot again for Halloween. Bush says he had an "awesome" time when he dressed up like a Fighter Pilot and rode in the back seat of a Navy S-3B Viking last May 1. Bush was flown to the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln off the coast of California where he made his now-infamous claim that hostilities in Iraq were over.

Bush's Senior Advisor/Nanny/Head Puppeteer Karl Rove has been trying, so far unsuccessfully, to convince the President to be something different this time. Rove apparently favors the superhero category, perhaps "SuperPresident". Unconfirmed rumors abound that Rove ordered White House seamstresses to create a red, white, and blue caped suit for Bush. However, Bush seems determined to get his way. When Rove initially refused to call Navy Secretary Hansford Johnson to ask if he could borrow a Fighter Pilot outfit and an F-14 for Halloween, Bush held his breath until he turned blue. A panicked Rove then made the call.

Secret Service agents have told Bush that he cannot go trick-or-treating around Washington D.C. because it would not be safe. Instead, plans are under way for a "Haunted (White) House" party to be held on Halloween night, where Bush will be allowed to wear his Fighter Pilot outfit. Plans include bobbing for the heads of the White House press corps, a hayride motorcade, a showing of Top Gun, and a trip through a five-acre corn maze now under construction by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on the White House's South Lawn. The final event of the evening will be Vice President Dick Cheney wearing his Jabba the Hut costume and telling scary stories about how Democrats are traitors who help the terrorists. The party will end with cookies and warm milk by Bush's bedtime of 9:00 PM.
Nigal
11:07:48 PM
11/03/03

I agree, ped, at least it's a possability. I mean, Rumsfeld seemed so obviously sincere in his analysis. But he seemed to have a block that prevented him from accepting that Saddam may have been an irrational nut case who didn’t react to situations exactly as they had planned. Or maybe he was playing politician and not letting on that the administration was going to order the attack on Iraq no matter how Saddam reacted.

I know that TV is all about sound-bites, and it is difficult to establish a complex point of view on an interview show, but I would have felt better if he had at least put forth the possibility that they made mistakes in assessing information. I would like to think that they did a psychological profile on Saddam as part of their briefing material. I would also like to think that they did a thorough analysis of the sociological conditions inside and around Iraq, and how those social dynamics would play out after the war.

I believe that one of the things that makes this country strong is our exposure to differing cultures and peoples. I’m not sure that some other groups, being culturally and/or racially homogenous, truly understand this. But by being culturally and racially diverse, I would like to think that our leaders would be open to the possibility that people will not always react in logically (to western thought) predictable ways. I would like to think that our leaders would be open to many possibilities. And I would like to think that our leaders would include these assessments in their intelligence gathering and decision making.

World affairs are such complex equations. I would like to think that our leaders are open-minded to possibilities.
arclite
7:21:27 AM
11/04/03

Okay! Enough already!

I've taken so much grief around here for posting only one side of things, I thought it only fair to direct folks to:
http://www.bushpresident2004.com/index.htm



If you feel so moved, you can even make a donation!

http://www.bushpresident2004.com/donate.htm

Consider it an investment.
VioLiN
11:55:29 AM
11/18/03

Screw that.
Tilt
11:57:34 AM
11/18/03

(how do you like my new catch-phrase? LOL)
Tilt
11:58:34 AM
11/18/03

At least give it a look Tilt.

*wink, wink*
VioLiN
11:58:43 AM
11/18/03

Swing and a miss! WIFF!
Nigal
11:59:43 AM
11/18/03

Grimly hilarious, yet subtle....
Tilt
12:07:10 PM
11/18/03

You know he is going to be in there!
UpUrs
12:09:44 PM
11/18/03

VioLiN
12:32:48 PM
11/18/03

Looks like the Bushies are left hoping for another terrorist attack.
VioLiN
12:37:28 PM
11/18/03

Just because his christmas tree fell down?
Phaedrus
12:38:50 PM
11/18/03

Looks like it's in the ready position to screw something!
Treebeard
12:54:42 PM
11/18/03

whatever!
UpUrs
1:09:41 PM
11/18/03

"Looks like the Bushies are left hoping for another terrorist attack."

Wow, and you talk about my hate? Good thing the Bush's aren't Mexicans or you would have offended yourself, ey?
Nigal
3:48:49 PM
11/18/03

Actually, that was my best stratdewd impersonation.
VioLiN
3:55:45 PM
11/18/03

JIHAD BUSH!!!

8)
Nigal
4:02:57 PM
11/18/03

Damn Phaedrus --- just too quick for me.
Tilt
4:03:20 PM
11/18/03

"JIHAD BUSH!!!

8)"
Nigal

couldn't have said it better myself.....
stratdewd
11:10:00 PM
11/18/03

Déjà Vu?
Can Clinton Save his Candidacy?

BY DONALD LAMBRO



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Donald Lambro is the chief political corespondent for the Washington Times and a nationally syndicated columnist with United Feature Syndicate.

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This is a year of turmoil and terror in the Democratic Party: Their likely presidential nominee battered, bloodied, and ridiculed even before the general election has begun; angry, unforgiving voters appear ready to wreak punishment on the scandal-ridden Democratic-controlled Congress; and a fiery anti-incumbent mood may be sweeping the nation.

Rarely, in contemporary American politics, has a prospective Democratic presidential standard-bearer emerged successfully from his early primaries burdened by so many deep public doubts about his character within his own party. This is the astonishing situation that now faces the Democrats and Bill Clinton as he moves to lock up the nomination and convince a doubting nation that he is not the "slick Willie" portrayed by his political enemies, depicted by the new media, and lampooned by late-night comedians.

The Arkansas governor's candidacy has need deeply weakened by allegations that he committed adultery during his marriage; that he personally took steps to avoid being drafted during the height of the Vietnam War; that he and his wife, Hillary, an influential lawyer with a prominent law firm that does business with the state, were insensitive to the appearance of conflict of interest throughout his governorship; and that he has been slippery and evasive in answering questions from the news media about his personal and professional conduct.

Clinton made his dubious national television debut on the CBS network's popular 60 Minutes program, following the Super Bowl telecast. On this show, in response to charges that he hand engaged in a 12-year affair with Geniffer Flowers, Clinton admitted that he had "made mistakes" in his marriage. Shortly after fighting his way back to emerge victorious in a no-holds-barred New York primary, and with the presidential nomination almost assured, his picture appeared on the cover of Time magazine beneath the ominous headline, "Why Voters Do Not Trust Clinton."

Although he had won 14 of the 20 primaries and caucuses since Super Tuesday, a good two-thirds of all Democratic primary voters said they wished they had another choice for the nomination. And 41 percent of all voters said they had a negative view of the former boy wonder of southern politics.

Trouble some Win:

The results of New York contest, a linchpin in any Democratic election strategy, were even more troublesome for Clinton's candidacy. Clinton managed to win it with 41 percent of the vote, but his earlier rival, former Massachusetts Sen. Paul Tsongas, who did not even campaign, ended up in second place, getting 29 percent of the vote.

Equally worrisome to the party was the record low turnout in the Democratic primaries, down 18 percent by mid-April. Democratic turnout was down 39 percent in New York alone over 1988, hitting new lows as well in Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas. That was further proof that Clinton was not attracting broad support from his own party, let alone the independents and working-class swing Democrats who are critical to any hope of a Democratic victory.

"The drop in the turnout has to terrify the Democratic Party, Tsongas said.

Gov. Mario Cuomo offered this blunt analysis when the New York primary was over: "The turnout numbers--low--and the Tsongas numbers--high--mean trouble. The campaign isn't working. There's no clear message. The voters hear the captain and officers and the crew squabbling, and they aren't im pressed with our ship."

It is little wonder, then, that a growing number of Democrats are only questioning Clinton's electability in the fall.

Many Democratic strategists and party activists think he may be able to regain some of his credibility among his party. But many others fear that his candidacy has been so badly damaged during the early primary process that he will find it nearly impossible to slough off his considerable negatives in a climate of widespread voter cynicism, suspicion, and anger toward all politicians.

In over three decades of political reporting, I cannot recall a time when some of the Democratic Party's senior strategists and adviser have spoken with such brutal candor about their likely nominee and his perceived weaknesses. Here's what some of them are saying:

"The negatives are forming on Bill Clinton like a political stalactite, drop by drop," said veteran Democratic consultant David Sawyer. "Each drip leaves a residue that builds on his negative image."

"The halls of Congress are filled with Democrats wringing their hands over their prospective nominee," Sawyer said.

Driving much of his hand-wringing is the fear that many democratic members of Congress are going to be especially vulnerable to a throw the buns out mood this fall, partly as a result of the House check overdraft scandal. "They are scared to death that there will be this mass rejection of incumbents," said a top Senate Democratic aide.

"With a weak candidate at the top of the ticket, and with Congress on the hot seat, it's the combination that's really scary to them." Said this aide. "The anti-incumbency thing is fueling a greater concern about who is going to lead the ticket."

Indeed, many Democrats fear that their primaries are about to deliver to them "the worst of all worlds, a bleeding front-runner stumbling over the finish line" to receive the Democratic presidential nomination, said Sawyer.

Another Democratic strategist, who conducts polls for the party, told me that in head-to-head polling against President George Bush, who has substantial negatives of his own, Clinton does poorly. "I did a poll in Idaho for a Senate race and we found that Bush had a 61 percent negative job approval rating. And yet Bush beats Clinton by 2-to1."

New York Democratic strategist Bill Cunningham, a close Cuomo adviser, said, "I don't know if you can raise further doubts about Clinton. The doubts already exist and they're becoming harder to dispel.

"It's sort of like Night of the Living Dead," Cunningham said of the draft-dodging issue that has dogged Clinton's campaign. It came alive again in the New York primary when Clinton confirmed reports that he had received his induction notice prior to his decision to enter the Reserve Officers Training Corps program--a pledge that he broke when it became clear that he would not be drafted under the national lottery system that was implemented at the time.

Underscoring Doubts:

The revelation underscored doubts that Clinton had not told the full story about his efforts to avoid military service during the Vietnam War years and that, say Democratic strategists, only further undermined his political credibility. "The Clinton people don't nail it down," Cunningham said. "It was another cut, another wound, and all of those wounds have an impact.

"You have to give Clinton credit for battling back all the time," he added. "But he also does not know how to finish off an issue. They keep cropping up again. And it reinforces the slick Willie image--he only answers part of the question.

"There's a perception building about Bill Clinton and that's the load he'll take into the general election," Cunningham continued. "A lot of people are dreading the general election right now."

Democratic media adviser David Garth similarly worries that "every time I think he's had his last wound he starts to bleed again and something else gets discovered.

"He hasn't done anything so terrible. It's just the way he plays it when confronted by charges or allegations," Garth told me. "If he would just stop trying to finesse the situation. It's not so much the thing he did that was so bad but how he handles it and people remember how he handles it.

"He's too cute by far. He talks like a lawyer when he says he didn't inhale [when he tried marijuana at Oxford]. I find it hard to believe. He should have just said it was a mistake. No one is going to hold one of those thing against him. But one thing they will hold against him is playing it a little too cute."

"Both of these candidates are so flawed that there is no possibility of their defeating President Bush," former New York Mayor Ed Koch said of both Clinton and former California Gov. Jerry Brown. "Bill Clinton has no credibility."

Koch, among a number of Democrats, wants to force a brokered convention in which party leaders would regroup behind an experienced national consensus candidate as an alternative to Clinton--perhaps Texas Sen. Lloyd Bentsen or Tennessee Sen. Albert Gore.

That was the private hope of party leaders such as Maryland Democratic Party Chairman Nate Landow who called a meeting of party fundraisers in late April to discuss Clinton's prospects and to reassess the nomination process. "Voters continue to have reservations about Clinton," Landow told me.

In a letter to party leaders, he said, "Many members are concerned, to say the least, about our party's prospects for winning in November and feel the need to discuss openly how we got to where we are and what options we have for the immediate future and for changing the [nominating ] process."

In early April, when it appeared briefly possible that Tsongas just might reenter the race, Oklahoma Sen. David Boren pleaded with him to get back in to offer the party a credible alternative to Clinton. "There are a lot of people who wish someone else would get into this race," said a Senate Democratic official.

Ominous Polls:

A look at the Gallup polls over the past few moths show why Democrats are becoming increasingly nervous about putting Clinton at the head of their ticket.

In a head-to-head match up on March 20, Bush led by only 52-43 percent and Clinton was indeed within striking range. But as the weekly disclosures took their toll during the ensuing primaries, Clinton's margin fell to 54-38 percent on March 29 and then fell further to 54-34 by the beginning of April.

Many Democrats fear that all of this points to the possibility of very negative general election if Clinton is the nominee.

"What's going to happen is that the Democrats will have a view of Bill Clinton and the Republicans will have a view of Bush and the swing voters will be the battleground," Cunningham said. "And the questions will be over the negative perceptions of the candidates and whose perceptions will dominate.

"When it gets down to the final two candidates, you are facing a very negative election," he said. "This is going to be a very depressing campaign--there's nothing uplifting about it. Bush is going to campaign on the fact that he's not Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton is going to campaign b y saying that things are terrible in America."

Yet it would be premature to suggest that the 1992 presidential election is already over. There are too many political variables in today's volatile social and economic climate to reach that conclusion. Bush has enough negatives at this point and there is enough voter discontent nationally to make this a horse race, at least in the popular vote.

"But right now the ammunition is there to use against Clinton," said Cunningham. "The worry among Democrats is that they [the Republicans] will refine it and shape it in such a way that the comparison with Bush in the general election will used skillfully against Clinton."

Yet there are some in the Democratic Party who think that the way things are going, the Republicans won't have to do much to run a successful campaign against Clinton. Said one key strategist in the Bush-Quayle campaign committee, "We're following the Napoleonic maxim: Never interfere with the enemy when they are in the process of destroying themselves."
viOliN
12:07:54 PM
1/03/04

viOliN
12:09:00 PM
1/03/04

The fiddle fizizzel boy is saying:
"Yo! Wait a minnezel! What's up with this Bush beeyatch azzel manazzle? Huhzazzelmanazzel?"
gojo
12:15:23 PM
1/03/04

Since most of the liberals only appear as a red x on my computer some might say that I am at a disadvantage in political debate.

I disagree. The red x makes a better arguement than their posts.
bacpac
12:26:26 PM
1/03/04

Pat Robertson: God tells me it's Bush in a blowout

By SONJA BARISIC
Associated Press

NORFOLK, Va. -- Pat Robertson said Friday that God told him President Bush will be re-elected in a landslide.

``I think George Bush is going to win in a walk,'' the religious broadcaster said on his ``700 Club'' program on the Virginia Beach-based Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded.

``I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way,'' Robertson said.

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, a frequent Robertson critic and executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said he had a prediction of his own.

``I predict that Pat Robertson in 2004 will continue to use his multimillion broadcasting empire to promote George Bush and other Republican candidates,'' Lynn said in a statement.
viOliN
12:28:25 PM
1/03/04

Praise Jeezeezel!
gojo
12:29:41 PM
1/03/04

"Try new Cut n' Paste! The alternative to forming your own intelligent opinions! Perfect for morons everywhere! In stores now."
StickmanWalking
12:47:45 PM
1/03/04

The ability to locate the most obscure and prejudicial sources is every bit as difficult as mastering the fundamentals of the html programing language.
bacpac
12:53:30 PM
1/03/04

One party under god
Bush will win this time,but not with my vote.It will have been 24 years since I voted for anyone from either end of our one party system.People it makes no difference .The same will come from whomever is elected,just the news will be altered to make you believe that a difference exist.
uncliff
12:55:03 PM
1/03/04

Earth to uncliff.
bacpac
1:01:38 PM
1/03/04

Yes pacbac,first elect a white house press secretary and let him create an imaginary pesident and congress---now tell me what difference you would experiance? my point is extreme distance between these "public servants" and the common man is infinite.Go out and buy a dozen lobbyist and study them in depth --you'll then see me line of thinking.
uncliff
6:18:31 PM
1/03/04

Do you ever communicate with your elected representatives? I write mine at least once during their term. The only one who never replied was Bill Clinton after he was elected President.

He used to reply when he was my Governor.

You need to get envolved by communicating with your elected representatives. Playing a #&%!$ on the internet is not an effective communication tool.
bacpac
7:19:26 PM
1/03/04

That's funny that you bringthat up, bacpac, if you can hear me with your blinders on!

As you know, I recently wrote all of my reps and leaders of this current admin. The only ones that didn't repply was Bush and Chaney. Go figure...

You hear me? You hear me bacpac??

If so, why haven't you answered my questions about Strom having sex with a black women and fathering a child out of wed lock?? You apporve of this family value?? Your silence is your answer, you have none. You f-ing hyprocrite!
laqtis
9:30:40 PM
1/03/04

Hey, Laq. He said the libs have red x's next to their names. So, perhaps he didn't read it (or chose to read it, then ignore it)
Treebeard
9:36:07 PM
1/03/04

Well, about 10 years ago some local political scum (Doug Barnard and Butler Derrick) renamed one of my most favorite places, Clark's Hill Reservoir, after one of the most famous bigots on the planet.

Now it's the Strom Thurmond Reservoir (Puke Twice). What an embarrassment.

Of course, no one calls it that --- not even local Republicans. We're just waiting for the Thurmonds die off so we can change it back.
Tilt
9:46:18 PM
1/03/04

Old growth governments and forests rely on fire for rehabilitating breath and light.
Californias' recent fires are an example of too much time before rehab---what about its government?
uncliff
11:18:08 PM
1/03/04



Tilt
2:01:08 AM
1/04/04

Looks like Ronny,EH?
uncliff
11:45:12 PM
1/04/04

.... before the icepick lobotomy.
Tilt
1:22:11 AM
1/05/04





Violin
7:27:27 AM
1/27/04

Now, why did the Dukakis picture come up and not the one below it? Enquiring minds want to know.
Dunadan
7:53:57 AM
1/27/04

Its a vast right-wing conspiracy. Cut & paste the address: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/027228.jpg
Violin
9:05:37 AM
1/27/04

ViOLiN
11:14:53 AM
4/22/04

ViOLiN
11:15:53 AM
4/22/04

The GW philosophy: Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Dunadan
11:17:20 AM
4/22/04

The League of Conservation Voters gave Bush a grade of "F" in 2003. Kerry has a lifetime voting record of 92 percent with the group and also has its endorsement.
Tango
5:22:03 PM
4/22/04

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