Sept 11th. how will you remeber?

“You conveniently left out the following

youre on to me, stove jr. it's all part of my nefarious plan. it all hinges upon peoples inability to SCROLL UP

but a means to a different end (social gratification)

it's called camaraderie. nothing wrong with a little morale-raising amongst soldiers

years of his and his wife's smarmy posts here only strengthens my suspicion.”

having seen years of negative, bitter posts from you only strengthens my suspicions that you will die bitter and alone”

“stovie, why do you hate sass and birch?”

“this is why people are sick of you, kevin. and not to excuse it, but this is why you have an obsessed troll.

ped puts his own quote back INTO context after you quoted him out of context, and you call him a baby frier.

i defend 2 good people, and you call me hateful

bitter much? or taking holding-up-a-mirror lessons from s-rge?
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“Reading is Fundamental, crash.”

“if i misunderstood your point, please enlighten me”

“Why try?”

“why not?”

“Crash, try understand why the part of the quote you left out is critical: the way he phrased it ("and pass on the message that many of us haven't forgotten") implies that there is a dearth of people who remember. From what I've seen, that would be insulting to ordinary people around here. But moreover it implies that he's doing something above and beyond the commoner. He in essence of champions his own socially elite clique who rise above the ignorant rabble to browbeat them about their lack of reverence for 9/11. Blech. It really goes arm and arm with their "chosen people" smarmery they have as christians.”

“Because you don't understand English, crash.
You only understand what your emotions have decided I've said.”

“fvck it. it's obvious youre trolling. i dont know why i bother trying to get you to say something REAL, something you really mean, really speak your mind. if you want to keep on hiding behind your facade of bitterness and spitefulness, go right ahead. i know youre better than that, but whatever. i have better things to do”

“You only understand what your emotions have decided I've said.

Read it. Try to understand it.
I'm not trolling.

Now, read it again:

“Mutt, Mutt, Mutt....... if you criticize someone with boobs on TT, be prepaired for the hate.”
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“I may not like Birch or Sass or someone...that does not factor into whether I admire what they are trying to do.

Hell I know lots of people I personally find disagreeable but if they are trying to do something honorable I have to admire them.

I guess being conservative I tend not to look at the color of their skin (so to speak) but rather the content of their charachter...(strange I have heard that somewhere).

Yeah they may be smarmy as you say, but that still does not diminish the fact that Birch got out of his recliner, shaved his..(oh wait the hair had already fallen out (LOL)) and went back into a place very few of this nation are willing to go.

I have noticed that Kipling was right about the public perception to heroes.

After 9/11 I remember watching as churches would hold the people leaving the parking lot so our engines could respond. People came out of the woodwork to tell us how "proud" they were.

Then the usual bullshi# malaise settles in. And the same waddling fat excuses of a gene pool who lavished such praise on us, when it was fashionable, are the first to demand a budget cut so they can build some walking path or something.

gomez if you think Birch went over to get some piece of metal (Combat Infantry Badge) you are a sad, miserable piece of crap.

I like to think he went to stand against the true threat to our freedom. And whether I disagree with him or think he can be an overreacting yankee pussball...(LOL J/K) has nothing to do with the fact that he DID get up, he DID get in shape, and he IS overthere doing it.

So if he wants to crow a bit let him. He has earned the right.”

“stove

obviously, you dont hate sass and birch. that was my imitation of the kind of response you would make. but if youre going to say im bringing the hate just for defending someone, yea, i just might respond

mutt

i know birch and sass personally. i know them well enough to say youre way off base. whether or not it's really necessary for him to remind everyone is beside the point. birch is a strongly patriotic and stongly principled man. he wants to do what is right for everyone, silly libbies and rightwingnuts included, and he feels strongly about it. strongly enough to re-enlist after he had been out for a few years. i respect him more than just about anyone that i know personally. you have every right to attack his character. and i have every right to tell you youre wrong”

“telling me to "read it again" is not explaining a damn thing

am i supposed to be humored because you referenced an old sarge meme (someone with boobs)?

what? what is your point other than to troll, or to call people hateful?

and dont tell me to read it again.”

“Your lame appeal to authority falls apart at the point where I can say I've seen them behave poorly here. You may like the elitism, crash. Good for you. However, I - and many others - see shallow elitism for what it is: an ugly character flaw.”

“your ad hominem falls apart at the point where i can say ive seen you behave much worse. you may like the hypocrisy, benji good for you but i and many others can see bitterness for what it is: the road to a sad and lonely death”

“But I don't go around making pretentious and hypocritical displays of what a goody-goody I am, crash. That's the topic here.

BTW, I haven't attacked you personally, so you misused "ad hominem".”

“Mutt = cranky old turdball.

Done any hiking lately?”

“roseymonster = classic emasculated california metrosexual”

“BTW, I haven't attacked you personally, so you misused "ad hominem".”

true, but youre making ad hominem attacks on sass and birch”

“You're still misusing the term.”

“However, I - and many others - see shallow elitism for what it is: an ugly character flaw.

Since when do two bitter loners in Mom's basement count as "many"?”

“Hey look, an ankle biter!”

“Nice comeback. Good to see Stovie still helps you with your posts.”

“You're still misusing the term.

and youre using what i call the logic 101 fallacy: knowing the definitions of terms from a freshman college class, and thinking that enumerating them somehow makes you more right than the other guy because your latin is better”

“jesus, mutt, if anyone on this board is carrying around an unwarranted sense of superiority, look no further than within. you think everyone who disagrees with you is your intellectual inferior, not fit to post on the same board. get over yourself”

“There's not much competition in Missurrreee...”

“And that personal attack makes my argument wrong? (if so, that would be an ad hom - just for your edification)”

“I guess being conservative I tend not to look at the color of their skin (so to speak) but rather the content of their charachter....
XLax

One moment he's "manning the fire hoses in Selma" and now this......”

“Yes, I chuckled as well.

XL shall overcome some daaaayyyyy.”

“Strom Thurmond would not be pleased.”

“LOL...ever notice how the LIbbies go bananas when you point out the flawed logic in their lies. Its even better when you use their own words against them.”

“(snicker)”

“And that personal attack makes my argument wrong? (if so, that would be an ad hom - just for your edification

no, that was an aside, a btw, a digression, for YOUR edification. so is this: when you stop calling people who disagree with you idiots and whatever else, i'll take your protestations about ad hominems a little more seriously”

“Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy! Smarmy!”

“this argument started because m-tt made a personal attack, and now he is complaining about personal attacks

t-pical”

“How'd I miss all this business?!
Two things:

...ignore Mutt. He doesn't bother me (or Birch I suspect) so don't let him bother you.



... Birch doesn't need a CIB. They pass those out like candy over there. He worked his ass off to earn his EIB (expert infantry badge...very difficult to earn) and that is worth far more and will probably not be replaced by the CIB on his uniform unless he has to. I sure hope that didn't sound Smarmy.”

“How did a thread about 9/11 turn into this? (Waves to Smarmafrass! =))
The Solar Homes Tour went very well. We toured three single-family residences, two commercial buildings, and a co-housing complex. Two of the single family residences had photovoltaic panels, one of them was sized to provide 75% of that home's energy usage. One of the commercial building had over 20 geo-thermal wells on the property that halved the energy usage for that building. It was a great way to remember that we need to change as a nation and stop empowering people who would perpetrate an act as horrendous as what occurred at the Twin Towers.”

“Anyone remember that in the aftermath of 9/11 (for you New YAWKERS thats when that big open space was created in Manhattan) there were comments about a WALL built between the intel agencies (Gorelick) to prevent them from sharing information. It was put in place in the 90's by Zipper Clinton to allow him to trade with the Chinese.

WA'LL SHAZAUM...looks like the Wall is back. Luckily it would have been a crash of an Airplane in Detroit so not a whole lot of people would have been hurt.”

“are you drunk?”

“Well, DUH Maple...”

“LOL...come on Dork..the PrezBO doesn't seem to think there is any threat so maybe this was an "isolated" incident...like..UM 1993 WTC?”

“when your done talking like a child and done calling names, let me know. then I will chat with you about this.”

“That will never happen Mapes, don't waste your breath.”

“Shut the #&%!$ up Dan - just shut the #&%!$ up.”

“ever heard of the ignore feature?”

“LOL...whassa matta? Hitting close to home that the "feel good" approach to a war ends up endangering us all...HMMM...who predicted that?

Oh Yeah people in 1978 when then Failed President Catauh bent over for the Iranian Terrorists...LOL”

“I have to agree with WK and hyway. Since XL has never taken any personal shots at me I have not put him on ignore. BTW XL have you been hitting the New Year bottle a little soon? Your typing seems a little slurred..LOL”

“LOL...sorry but I find it just hilarious that some people get outraged over emotion...but REAL crap (terrorist really trying to kill us) just kinda gets the MEH response.”

“Do you really think anyone is ever going to stop terrorists from trying to blow up planes, getting onto USA soil? I don't think it is possible.

Put a Republican in the White House and see what happens. Of course, you will blame Obama because he weakened the country.”