Seriously............

“i get so tired of everyone acting like it happened to them. there are ppl who have really suffered that day, who lost loved ones, and somehow the endless prattling of the guy who knew a guy who knew a guy that was in the tower when the planes hit diminishes the valid feelings of sorrow and loss of those who REALLY have something to grieve over. this is their day. shut the hell up.”

“2scoops has issues with "feelings". Lets psycho-analyze this fella.”

“bring me the couch with the comfy pillows”

“I gotta agree with 2scoops. Some of the posts around here are so sappy and self-serving, I want to vomit.”

“Yeah well they do have all kinds of flowered patterns on them, can you handle it?”

“Switchback, by all means, vomit away!”

“I remember the good ol' days of TT when ol' 2scoops and sticky were just throwing turds at each other....
Ahhh.... the good ol' days....”

“I agree with 2scoops and switch back. As an example of some of the melodramatic melancholy being posted lately:

On that day, I came to realize that the Dark Lord, had once again arisen to blight the world once, again, and that the 2 towers (trees) had fallen and been destroyed. This evil has changed my life, and now, to survive and remember, I live each and every moment like it could be my last.


uhhhh, yeah, now that's believable testimony!”

“...seems like everybody
in the whole wide world
is down on me, down on me...”

“Hmmmmm .....

Hates to discuss emotion.

Likes to fling turds.

Sounds like a serious case of divisional entemology growth, we'll need to heavy chemicals for this case.

Sorry 2scoops ... but vee can haelp yuu!

Drink this and float out the keyhole.”

“It is very believable for the author.”

“More anecdotal evidence that rap 'music' produces sociopaths.”

“if you got "feeling" over 9-11, share them with close family members and friends, not a bunch of strangers.

ok. if itll make you happy, ill share something here:

i cried for the victims. not just a tear but deep sobbing tears. and the following sunday, i went to church with my mother, which i never do unless its a holiday.

i didnt cry for the victims right away. it took time to sink in. like when my grandmother died. but thats another story. at the same time as the attacks, my phone was out for a few days because of some digging going on down the street. boy was i mad. mainly cuz i couldnt get online. finally, a couple of days after the attacks, my phone worked again and i could get online. i got all huffy "finally" i could get online. and then i stopped. i realized how petty and selfish i was being. my life was inconvenienced for a few days. 3000 ppls lives were ended instantly, and thousands more were greatly damaged, and im pissing and moaning about not getting online for a few days? what a selfish pr ick. i broke down and wept hard for just a few minutes. and i badly wanted to be with my parents, having no family of my own. and then i moved past it, and im back to my old snide self.

and thats what i think everyone else should do. obviously, some ppl will take longer than others. but too many are taking too long.

there. thats my story. can i be in your little fraternity now and be in a group hug?”

“sorry, there's a turd on your shoulder. ;-)”

“See that wasn't so hard, was it?”

“LOL”

“I have to disagree. You guys can call it melodrama if you'd like, but you really have no idea HOW others are affected by the day. Your take on the situation is not the only valid viewpoint, and needling others to try and belittle their feelings about the day is not going to make the issue any clearer.

Mutt, of all people, I would expect that you would be able to ignore opinions that you find trivial.

2scoops, you seem like you're just out to force your point of view on others, through embarrassment and intimidation - i.e. "Speak up and I'll be sure to say something to belittle your connection to the event".

It's dissappointing that you guys can't seem to accept an array of emotion about this day. Let people speak.”

“Let it out, scoopie. It's easy to get overwhelmed when the media gets it's jiggy on. Let people express themselves the way they want. No matter what you do, or how hard you try, the masses will not do things the way you feel they should. Quit getting frustrated over it (....he said has he takes his own medicine....)”

“gosh, i feel so much better now! i love everyone! including bacpac. and the trolls. you are all my family and i am so glad i shared. peace and tranquility to everyone. god bless us all!”

“turn off the TV and turn on the blues.”

“When you going to be hiking again ol' 2scoops-o-poop?
Hows the healing going?”

“is it the 12th yet? i cant keep up the pretense much longer”

“why would you want to critisize how people feel?
thats not right.”

“LOL, hopeless, totally hopeless.


Don't get married, you'll have to feign consideration a whole lot longer than 24 hours.”

“"You just gotta try a little bit harder...."”

“I guess everyone deals with tragedy in different ways. Some turn into unbearable dickheads.”

“I had a few friends that were there on 9/12 that started clean up. This day has meaning to me b/c the way it affects them and as well as all the familys that were affected. I have heard many stories from them and it was terrible time.”

“Please read the 'Hey 2Scoops' thread!”

“I guess everyone deals with tragedy in different ways. Some turn into unbearable dickheads.

And some turn into drama queens. And some take advantage of the social nature of grieving to enhance their social status. And some people use their condemnation to bolster their own self-esteem.”

“To each their own. But if I were one of the 3000 or so that died, I would want others to just go on with their lives and appreciate what they have. So that's what I'm doing today.”

“So Mutt, you are using your condemnations posted here to bolster your self esteem?


So go bolster your self esteem somewhere else, ya parasite!”

“Is this how you're protecting yourself from any emotion? By belittling people? By saying they have no right to the feelings they have?

I did that for awhile when it came to people outside of the city or dc. I thought they had no right because they weren't there, it wasn't their home that got completely phucked up, it wasn't their jobs that got lost, it wasn't their fellow city dwellers filling the air with the horrible stench.

I was wrong in that belief. But it took awhile to realize that that reaction was because I could not deal with 100% of the emotions I had.

So, if you're using a defense mechanism - fine. But do realize that you are making the wounds even worse for some people who were deeply affected by this day.

I have seen the result of human hatred, intolerance, nastiness, etc.. it looks like a huge cloud of smoke and dust - and it smells horrible.

So please, on this day, check it at the door and let people do what they need to continue to heal.”

“Nicely said, Twinkles.”

“Everyone need to respect EVERYONE'S feelings on this day.

If you don't feel that what you're doing is acting like a drama queen, don't let it worry you. If you feel that some are taking advantage of the situation, don't let it worry you. It is possible that both sides are right in this, so just have a little tollerance on this and keep on, keeping on!”

“until you pick up the phone and hear a child who is Hysterical and who is crying because she can not get a hold of her father,
until you look into the grim face of a person who is trying to hold onto there hopes that they will find her husband.
until you hold the hand of a rescue worker who had just spent 24 hours non stop trying to find someone alive other then finding body parts and holding him while he cries.
until you can finliy sleep at night with out the sounds of the sirens going on and and on
until you can go to work with out having to go though check points with the national gaurd watching your every move
until you no longer have to walk past a billborad that is deicated to the people that hold out hope by putting up pictuers of there lost ones.
you have no RIGHT to tell anyone how to feel.

i will stop now because i am shaking with anger from remebering things and the way some people some are being heartless.

until you go through anything like that you just have no right to tell me how to feel.”

“sorry to be a di ck, but it really irks me when im talking to somebody about something and somebody comes along and pisses all over what we're talking about. frankly, its rude."
2scoops
11:41:16 AM
09/11/03
ignore this user

Well said 2scoops.”

“I gotta give you credit for not posting this on all the other 9-11 threads though. (are there are a bunch of them)

2scoops has a right to air his opinion just as much as everyone else does.”

“i will stop now because i am shaking with anger from remebering things and the way some people some are being heartless.

until you go through anything like that you just have no right to tell me how to feel.

Good grief! If that's directed at me, I am not trying to tell you or anyone else how to feel. I'm merely stating my observations.”

“Maple, a number of us have experienced tragedy and loss. Not necessarily on the same day or in the same way that you did, but at some point. Most people can understand without being given the intimate details, and those who cannot understand WILL not understand just because you explain in detail. They'll look at it as weakness or as though you're being "a drama queen", or as though you're using the situation to garner attention.

My take is that these particular people just have not the array of experiences to generate empathy for people who react differently than they.

Not saying you or anyone else should not post these things - just to be prepared for the posts that are sure to follow.”

“Some people felt safe, their biggest concern on 9/10/01 was how bad traffic was going to be, or what was for dinner, or who to pick for their fantasy football league.

On 9/11 these people didn't feel safe anymore”

“I was thinking about what was making news on 9/10. The death of Aliyah and the Gary Condit travesty were the big headlines...”

“Mapleleaf, I really think that the comments are more directed to those of us who were not in the city at the time, not to you, Treebeard and Twinkle Toes. I don't agree with the comments obviously because we all experienced a very sad event. But please calm down and find some peace in knowing that most of us do want to read your posts on this subject. You are the only one I personally know who worked on the recovery effort.”

“sorry for the outbreak of emotions.

it just got to me. its all cool

thank you mutt”

“and by 9/11/03 some are getting tired of rehashing the same sad stories already!”

“My take is that these particular people just have not the array of experiences to generate empathy for people who react differently than they.

Phaedrus, this is beneath even your level of erudition. I have sympathy for some of the people who have posted here - including mapleleaf and treebeard. But I happen to resent the people who take advantage of the situation, and I'm not going to back away from calling them out on it! Why? Because I actually care that those who genuinely express themselves don't find their grief trivialized by disingenuous, self-interested displays of grief.”

“Switchback then don't read these threads that are obviously about 9/11 or don't reply when you do read them. People are still dying over this, some people are orphans because of this. It's not old news, it's not over yet. So stick your head back in the ground and ignore what's going on in the world if you choose, I hear BenLo called of their wedding today if you want some news”

“there was more to my post. i also admitted to doing it myself and i apologized to maple. and i also backed up what i had to say. you left that out.”

“thanks for telling me that some people are orphans because of this Donman, I wasn't aware of that! Really, thanks a lot, your grasp of the obvious is mind-shattering.

BTW, this is a thread about NOT wantin to hear about it isn't it? I quit posting or reading the other threads since 2scoops created this one. Seems like an appropriate thread to me.”

“boy this is turning out to be the best battle royale we've had in years. ok. i was rude. i should have been more tactful. however, my position remains the same. peace, everybody.”

“sorry guys, I know some people are using this day for a lot of different reasons and only some of them are good ones...”