9/11

“I hear alot of you people crying about 9/11 but you attack our brave President George W. Bush, who proved to be valiant in the face of these horrible attacks by Muslim Terrorist. You are a BUNCH OF A-holes! Attack the President of the United States on this day? #&%!$s YOU all are! Shame on you! Just to advance YOUR leftist agenda I see.”

“Why don't you save your breath... to blow up your girlfriend?”

“yeah, I'm a leftist...

whatever”

“wtf did he do that was so brave and valiant? jesus christ on a jumping stick”

“Blow up his girlfriend ?
I thought you meant blow his girlfriend.”

“it's a perfect day to attack dubya, his approval ratings haven't been this low since before 9/11/01”

“Oh man, that's funny as #&%!$!”

“it is an interesting fact that no president who has gone to war has ever been re-elected.”

“Bosnia (Clinton's first term), Lebanon and Grenada (Reagan's first term) to name a couple.”

“Brave and valiant??? He just so happened to be the President on 9/11, so I guess if he was brave and valiant on that day than we all were too.

You OHIO HIKER truely enjoy posting threads that you know will push peoples buttons. And you wouldn't do such a thing if you didn't enjoy it. Therefore, you are not as Christian as you like to think you are, what with willfully creating controversial topics and joyfully generating hate from it. Shame on you, you evil-do'er!”

“im saying strictly war, not military action.”

“gulf war, vietnam, ww1 and ww2. those. not sure about the korean conflict, since it technically wasnt a war but was pretty big.”

“I'm left of the far right but slightly right of the center.”

“every time i think about guys that are Righties or lefties

i think of buffett.


Fins to the left
Fins to the right

hehehe”

“well then i guess i heard it wrong. nevermind. but wasnt lincoln shot in his first term?”

“I think it was after re-election, but before inaugaration (sp?) Don't hold me to that.”

“His head.”

“Just saw abit of a documentary about 9/11...saw the part where the 2nd plane hit the second tower....it still sends a chill up my spine.”

“I thought it was pretty funny”

“The Neatest Thing about That $87 Billion
Bush and congressional leaders plan to treat the Iraq spending as if it were off-budget, pretending they're not creating red ink

Time to follow Alice for another quick trip down Washington's rabbit hole. Just take a look at what's about to happen with President Bush's request for $87 billion to continue U.S. military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bush will get the money from Congress, all right. But that's where things will begin to get strange. The President and congressional leaders are going to try to make $87 billion in federal spending disappear. How? By treating it as if it were off-budget spending.

Here's how: For fiscal year 2004, which begins on Oct. 1, Bush has insisted that Congress hold discretionary spending -- that is, all expenses except for programs such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest on the debt -- to $784.7 billion, and not a penny more. From now until Thanksgiving, the White House and Congress will do battle over every cent.

VETO THREATS. Lawmakers will try to squeeze as much extra spending as possible into that target. And the President will insist that exceeding his cap by just one dollar will jeopardize the nation's economic future. Said the Office of Management & Budget on Sept. 4: "Only within such a fiscal environment can we encourage increased economic growth and a return to a balanced budget." Expect veto threats and perhaps even veiled warnings of a government shutdown if that $784.7 billion spending cap isn't met.

There's just one problem. While Bush and Congress are fighting over every dollar, they're going to pretend the $87 billion in Iraq money doesn't count as part of the discretionary budget ceiling, even though every thing else the Pentagon does is included.

This is an accounting gimmick that would shame even Enron. "We will hold down spending," Bush and GOP leaders on Capitol Hill will say. But next to that boast will be a little imaginary asterisk that says, "For everything, that is, but Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, a fistful of trust funds, and the war in Iraq." In truth, the government will spend more than $1.3 trillion next year -- close to twice the discretionay-spending target -- on stuff that doesn't count in Washington's debates over fiscal responsibility.

REAL DEBT. Watch for Bush to claim by the end the year that he held discretionary outlays to a 4% hike, even though spending will go up by close to 15%. The White House and Congress will just pretend it didn't happen.

And how will Uncle Sam pay for all these extra burdens? With real money that Treasury will have to borrow, creating real debt that your kids will be paying off for the rest of their lives.”

“Never forget and keep up the fight.

My condolences to anyone here who who lost friends or family.”

“+1. I got to go to ground zero this year and it really put it into perspective as to just horrible that day must have been.”

“I remember driving to work in Memphis that morning listening to the morning show on the Classic rock station. I guess because the disc jockies couldn't believe what was going on, they were not describing it well. At first they were just babbling about a plane that crashed into the tower. In my mind, I pictured a Cessna clipping the tower and thought, man that must have been bad on the people on the street below.

As they got past the shock I vividly remember one saying....folks, this isn't an accident, a jet airliner was flown into the tower.

My mind wouldn't hardly allow me to comprehend that until I got to work and we took our TV we used for training and rigged up a makeshift antannae and saw the news.”

“Eight years already. I still remember that day. In the beginning, I think alot of radio stations were just saying that a plane crashed into one of the towers. Probably then didn't realize or couldn't believe that it was a jetliner.

My grandmom and grandpop lived in N.Y city's Chinatown. Their highrise window faced away from the Twin Towers. When the first tower fell they thought that a gas or water pipe had bursted. A few minutes later, the wind carried the dust over their part of the city. He said he thought it was a snow storm.”

“Lets br grateful today that our president and our country has initiated a war on this terror that affected so many Americans.



Foiled Terror Plots Against America Since 9/11

Thursday, September 11, 2008

By Joseph Abrams and Jonathan Passantino

The following is a list of known terror plots thwarted by the U.S. government since Sept. 11, 2001.

• December 2001, Richard Reid: British citizen attempted to ignite shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.

• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking radioactive-laced "dirty bomb" to use in an attack against Amrica. Padilla was convicted of conspiracy in August, 2007.

• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda after attending jihadist camp in Pakistan.
Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.

• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with plotting to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.

• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.

• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers.

• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.

• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.

• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.

• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.

• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up natural gas refinery in Wyoming, the Transcontinental Pipeline, and a refinery in New Jersey.
Reynolds was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

• February 2006, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Zand Wassim Mazloum: Accused of providing material support to terrorists, making bombs for use in Iraq.

• April 2006, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee: Cased and videotaped the Capitol and World Bank for a terrorist organization.

• June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower.

• July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to bomb New York City train tunnels.

• August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States.

• March 2007, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Mastermind of Sept. 11 and author of numerous plots confessed in court in March 2007 to planning to destroy skyscrapers in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. Mohammed also plotted to assassinate Pope John Paul II and former President Bill Clinton.

• May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey. The plan included attacking and killing soldiers using assault rifles and grenades.

• June 2007, JFK Plot: Four men are accused of plotting to blow up fuel arteries that run through residential neighborhoods at JFK Airport in New York.

• September 2007, German authorities disrupt a terrorist cell that was planning attacks on military installations and facilities used by Americans in Germany. The Germans arrested three suspected members of the Islamic Jihad Union, a group that has links to Al Qaeda and supports Al Qaeda's global jihadist agenda.




Thank you Mr. President for having the common sense to know "negotiations" are not the answer.”

“What? You think we didn't stop any plots BEFORE 9/11/01?”

“george bush stopped those, too”

“I am going to post this here too.
This is a day to honor those that died, not politics, leave that for tomorrow. please.. just for one day...



“I will be going tonight after work to sign the Steel beam that will be part of the new memorial & museum.
A place I do not think I will ever be able to visit once built.

I will leave a note and dedicate it to the firman who's words and haunting eyes I will never ever forget. And to my family that stood by me for many days in the ditch trying to take care of the true rescuers.

That will be my ending.


mapleleaf””

“This probably isn't the thread to get into that debate.

May the men and women that lost their lives that day never be forgotten.”

“you know better than that, zac

~gets the popcorn ready~”

“Forgive me for succumbing to the temptation.”

“The point is inaction would have meant they died in vain. They didn't.”

“this is not a political thread. pull one up and go there hiker.

*shaking head*
365 days a year, and you want to point fingers on THIS day of all days......”

“The only one pointing fingers is you.

I thought you said you're staying away out of principal, and less rhan a week later you came back. Don't preach to me about principals.

I'm congratulating America on the war on terror.

For those of you who think that's offensive, pacj your bags and move to canada.”

“mmmmmm canada”

“I just was told hiker1984 is sarge.



*click*”

“I just was told hiker1984 is sarge.

no, i'm hiker1984”

“As in past years, two bright blue beams of light will shine at night on the New York City skyline, in memory of the fallen towers.



this is from when we lived in the apartment 2003


http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/89959691nGLzxD”

“I went down to Battery Park. I would not go to Ground Zero (spent enough time there)

Thank you twinkletoes for going with me. It would have been very hard by myself.
there were many tears, laughter, bag pipes.
the hardest part were the families. seeing the little children (7 years old) wearing there parents hats or shirts etc...


My name will for ever be on the beam. I am glad they did that. it was a good idea.

I was able to leave my message.”