CLARK/BUSH

“It could be a non-issue. I just expected someone from each side to pick it up and run different directions with it. Other than a passing note in various blogs, it's basically gone unnoticed."
stickmanwalking


nononononooooo....you're far too polite. they are IGNORING the evidence....turning a blind eye., if you will....

the quotes are real, i have seen the video. the libs only watch liberal news sources so they don't get the whole story.....that's where i come in



But, having said all that, he is completely full of #&%!$ sometimes."
chili36


hmmm....not a very thoughful response chili. ever try that one in court? "you honor, the witness is completely full of #^$#&" ........and BTW, i REFUSE to talk politics on the trail with anyone....i like to relax out there....”

“I read his comments, Strat. Does that make him a traitor in your eyes?”

“Oh, and by the way, strat, I read the wall street journal op-ed page most every day.”

“oh really? well well well, how fair and balanced of you .....did you notice that the market jsut finished the quarer UP for the second quarter in a row? prolly not...brokaw, rather and jennings won't be telling you that, i can assure you....


listen to glen beck or neil boortz or sean hannity for some true insight....if you got the nards, that is. facing the truth is very hard for some people, i know.”

“Sorry, but just because you enjoy the mental masturbation of righty rhetoric doesn't mean I have to.

I read a diverse range of opinions, strat, and if you can say the same I'd be surprized.”

“how can i not? liberalism is everywhere in media, academia, and entertainment. all americans ae blasted with it every day, all day...and most have NO idea.

that's how i know they are full of it, cuz i look at both sides and decide for myself.

SUPRISE!”

“I might believe you as soon as you finally define what you see as the traits of liberalism.”

“I am tempted to take these pinheads off ignore and join stratdewd in debating these left wingers.

Naw, I know what they are saying without reading it. Stratdewd does not need my help.”

“"Stratdewd does not need my help."
bacpac
07:10:02 AM

You are correct, sir!

stratdewd needs the help of a mental health professional. :P”

“the quotes are real, i have seen the video. the libs only watch liberal news sources so they don't get the whole story.....that's where i come in
stratdewd
11:06:20 PM


Right, Strat. But, I don't get my news from liberal or conservative news sources. I read your posts. That's where I get my info from. That's why I tend to side with the liberals or centrists...”

“that's how i know they are full of it, cuz i look at both sides and decide for myself.

stratdewd
11:28:01 PM

Case in point again. This is where I get my 'fair and balanced' opinions from!”

“ Is He The Man to Beat Bush?

The New York Observer


George Bush is clearly in way over his skill level. Running a country takes intelligence, judgment and occasionally wisdom. Instead, this President’s decisions fly in the face of logic and common sense. Rather than grappling with the very real problems facing America—a ballooning federal deficit, the threat of Islamic terrorism, a growing number of families living below the poverty line—he offers a risky tax cut and a foreign policy that gets us into a hugely expensive war with no exit strategy and that alienates our previously reliable allies. Rather than level with the American people and ask for sacrifices, he just recedes further into a land of make-believe, exhibiting the flawed character of a man who would choose to preserve his own popularity at the expense of the well-being of the country.

Where are the wise counselors who will save Mr. Bush from himself? Certainly not in his administration; there doesn’t appear to be anyone there with a smart economic bone in his or her body. And Mr. Bush’s foreign-policy advisers are still living under the outdated delusion that the U.S. can control nations and cultures with its might.

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, George Bush has been hiding behind a false cloud of bravado and patriotism. If Wesley Clark becomes the Democratic nominee, he stands a good chance of calling Mr. Bush’s bluff and returning the country to a saner, wiser place.
”

“Wesley Clark:
Is He The Man to Beat Bush?

The New York Observer

It should be no surprise that George W. Bush is turning out to be one of the worst U.S. Presidents in memory, one who may be leading the country toward a financial debacle. When Mr. Bush was running for office, it was pointed out that he’d never been successful at any career he’d tried his hand at; all of his opportunities had been created for him by others, who were bound to him by family connections. And when he goofed, there was always some dark-suited fixer who could clean up his mess. The problem is that the mess Mr. Bush is now making involves the entire country and the world at large. And the men and women in dark suits surrounding him are not providing him with any balance.

As a chorus line of Democratic candidates jostle for the job of taking on Mr. Bush next fall, there may be one who seems to have what it takes to actually win and save the country from four more years of Mr. Bush’s stunning ineptitude. We’re talking, of course, about Wesley Clark.

As a candidate, he’s about as good as they get. The other Democratic hopefuls will have a hard time dimming the lights on General Clark’s résumé: a Southerner who was first in his class at West Point, a Rhodes scholar, wounded in combat in Vietnam, a recipient of the Purple Heart and the Silver Star, a general at the young age of 43, a distinguished military career in which he rose to be America’s top commander in Europe and NATO’s supreme military chief. When he was commanding NATO forces, General Clark created an alliance of 19 nations to join forces in the war in Kosovo—a stark contrast to Mr. Bush’s cowboy diplomacy in Iraq. The general is also said to be intensely competitive—"He is competitive drinking coffee with you," said a senior State Department official—a quality which will be necessary to neutralize the President’s $170 million re-election campaign.

George Bush is clearly in way over his skill level. Running a country takes intelligence, judgment and occasionally wisdom. Instead, this President’s decisions fly in the face of logic and common sense. Rather than grappling with the very real problems facing America—a ballooning federal deficit, the threat of Islamic terrorism, a growing number of families living below the poverty line—he offers a risky tax cut and a foreign policy that gets us into a hugely expensive war with no exit strategy and that alienates our previously reliable allies. Rather than level with the American people and ask for sacrifices, he just recedes further into a land of make-believe, exhibiting the flawed character of a man who would choose to preserve his own popularity at the expense of the well-being of the country.

Where are the wise counselors who will save Mr. Bush from himself? Certainly not in his administration; there doesn’t appear to be anyone there with a smart economic bone in his or her body. And Mr. Bush’s foreign-policy advisers are still living under the outdated delusion that the U.S. can control nations and cultures with its might.

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, George Bush has been hiding behind a false cloud of bravado and patriotism. If Wesley Clark becomes the Democratic nominee, he stands a good chance of calling Mr. Bush’s bluff and returning the country to a saner, wiser place.
”

“Voilin,
Why is General Clark Bar a democrat ?
I have not had time to keep up on his politics, but usually military men are Repub's?
I now I will probably get some heat for being a politically inept person at this time ...lol”

“Depending upon whom you listen to, either because he identifies with the party’s ideals or because Karl Rove didn’t call him back.


BTW - You want to buy the password to this handle or what?”

“haha..........
Tooo funny.......
I don't know why I could not get the email on my password for it...
Na, you can use it as a Troll
Unless you wanna give it to me a TREAT!...

It's weird he is a demo?
I would like to see a military man get in there for once. I'm sick of the everyday run of the mill lying, cheating, stealing, polly's.....
Nothing saying a military guy won't do the same, but it's worth a try.
I may have to cross party lines in next November's vote.
Maybe you could convince me?
lol”

“"snafangulus" is in your mailbox.

Now you have to vote Clark.”

“Snaffie - "I would like to see a military man get in there for once......."

32 of the 36 presidents had/have military experiance.

Pull up the "Draft Welsey Clark.com" thread, as there are a great number of posts relating to the Rowe issue, military experiance and great backround on Clark.

PS - after you get done, please email me yer address so I can get yer "Clark for Prez" lawn sign in the mail to ya.”

“This Just In....

I heard about a new lawn sign spotted recently:


Defeat Bush,
Again.
”

“Billionaire Soros takes on Bush

NEW YORK, Nov. 11 — George Soros, one of the world’s richest men, has given away nearly $5 billion to promote democracy in the former Soviet bloc, Africa and Asia. Now he has a new project: defeating President Bush.

“IT IS THE central focus of my life,” Soros said, his blue eyes settled on an unseen target. The 2004 presidential race, he said in an interview, is “a matter of life and death.”

Soros, who has financed efforts to promote open societies in more than 50 countries around the world, is bringing the fight home, he said. On Monday, he and a partner committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group, bringing to $15.5 million the total of his personal contributions to oust Bush.

‘A DANGER TO THE WORLD’

Overnight, Soros, 74, has become the major financial player of the left. He has elicited cries of foul play from the right. And with a tight nod, he pledged: “If necessary, I would give more money.”

“America, under Bush, is a danger to the world,” Soros said. Then he smiled: “And I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.”

Soros believes a “supremacist ideology” guides this White House. He hears echoes in its rhetoric of his childhood in occupied Hungary. “When I hear Bush say, ‘You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the Germans.” It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit (“The enemy is listening”): “My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me,” he said in a soft Hungarian accent.
<snip>
Asked whether he would trade his $7 billion fortune to unseat Bush, Soros opened his mouth. Then he closed it. The proposal hung in the air: Would he become poor to beat Bush?

He said: “If someone guaranteed it.”

msnbc.com”

“Four more years!
Four more years!”

“That finance reform thing really worked great huh? Now we have one guy putting up $75 million to defeat Bush. You don't think this guy's going to have pull if the democratic pres gets in?”