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newest reality tv show.View MessagesAs many of you know... “I work in the cable industry. It has come to my attention today that MTV networks is preparing to launch a new, gritty, reality TV show. It will be called "Jail TV". It will be a show about life in jail. MTV is currently seeking "appropriate" candidates within the Texas jail system to focus on. I personally feel that this is now the lowest of the low and that MTV is scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to find shows to titillate the fancy of the shallow American public. I for one, will not be marketing this product and I am ashamed that this type of programming will probably make millions. People that are in jail for crimes should not be showcases and made into stars. This sends a convoluted message to everyone, that crime might lead to stardom. I;m sickend by ALL of these reality shows...such a waste of time...” 10:47:53 PM 9/30/03 “how about a show called "beat stikmon about the head and breast"? id watch it.” 10:50:01 PM 9/30/03 “i agree stickmon, that's the most pathetic thing i've ever heard of. VH1 ran a deal last year of a rock star in jail doing a concert. i found that equally offensive. scoops, STFU you rat bastid....” 10:53:23 PM 9/30/03 “how about "kick stratdewd in the limbaugh"?” 10:55:17 PM 9/30/03 once again.. “2 scoops, you fail to rise to the occasion and show yourself to be a crass person of mean spirit. And after I spoke decently of you to a mutual friend. Man...you better go take a dump and release some of that meanness that you seem so willing to carry around with you all the time. sheesh...” 10:57:35 PM 9/30/03 “Sad yet somehow not surprising. Not surprising at all. How about kick "Scoops in the Labia"? I wouldn't watch but I'd participate.” 10:59:49 PM 9/30/03 “ive got an ass full of crass, baby.” 11:00:12 PM 9/30/03 “i bet you get alot of chicks with that line, scoops....” 11:08:15 PM 9/30/03 “youd be surprised” 11:12:05 PM 9/30/03 “MTV... SUCKS!!” 11:14:03 PM 9/30/03 “on the serious tip, that story i heard about one of mtvs prank shows showering these two teenage girls in human waste pisses me off to this day.” 11:28:07 PM 9/30/03 all I can say is I remember when “MTV was on the cutting edge of showcasing music videos. Since then, the radical change and expansion of format from video to more tawdry programming is one more reason I abstain from cable, satellite and other forms of paid television. I may have to totally abstain from my "rabbit ears" when everything goes HDTV and I can no longer access local reception by airwave reception. Kudos for your stand- you are justified Stikmon!” 11:39:13 PM 9/30/03 thanks for the intelligent talk 2 scoops... “your a real wiz with words and conceptualization. Hey...why dont' you follow the teachings of Timothy Leary...tune in, turn on, drop out. but I know that that concept is beyond your simplistic functioning brain matter. Oh well...one day, maybe, you'll develop into something beyond a fetus.” 11:41:02 PM 9/30/03 stikmom “is this you trying to be funny? if it is, its not working.” 11:43:41 PM 9/30/03 do you hear laughter??? “we're not laughing with you, we are laughing AT you. your a regular riot...your wit is legendary, you inspire each of us to try to emulate you. Your the top of the heap, none of us can hold a candle to you. You should go on stage. No 2Scoops, I'm not trying to be funny, I would never be able to keep up with you. I'm not even in the same league as you.” 11:53:44 PM 9/30/03 “seriously, wtf? if youre pulling my leg, then kudos. but jesus christ, youre acting worse than treebeard. no wonder lizs used to slap you around.” 11:54:01 PM 9/30/03 “you just degenerated your own thread by flaming me, you retard. what the hell is the matter with you. at least i was on topic. i didnt make that up about the teenage girls. jesus.” 11:56:03 PM 9/30/03 “come back and fight, ya pansy! ahhhh who needs ya!?!” 12:03:36 AM 10/01/03 “My crappy cable company only has two music channels. MTV and a country music channel. Since MTV is not really a music channel, I have never seen the J'Lo Flashdance video and I am pissed. I don't want reality TV, I want fake boob TV.” 7:16:20 AM 10/01/03 “they wouldn't make those shows if there is no one that would watch them. sucks, I know, but that's reality. Actually some of them are okay, I have to agree though, they are going totally overboard with some of this stuff. prison realty? give me a break.” 7:26:22 AM 10/01/03 MTV sucks....no wait...it blows.... “...Stikmon...you should find out who the sponsors are buying the ads for that time slot and take a stance against them. If they can't sell ads for it then it won't run. You know the game. Maybe at best post the advertisers on this board and at least we'll get a small contingency to boycott who ever it is.... And as for you 2dumps....go to the nearest gas station, pull up next to the air pump and then stick the nozzle in your ear and press go....what that'll do is replace the stale air in your pea sized skull....” 7:48:50 AM 10/01/03 Scoopie Doo “Ruh Roh, I frink you put your froot in yer mouf again! Seriously, you accuse me of being oversensitive. That's been established. Let's also establish that there are 21 posts as of this writing on this thread. 9 of them belong to you and are of the same nature of the things you have accused me of. One of them consists of a shot at me and I wasn't even involved in this conversation. The rest are all lashing out, wise ass comments, negative responses, defensive posturing, complete with insults and such. Does a lot for your credibility? You do the math. However, if the shoe fits...” 8:03:39 AM 10/01/03 Who took the 'M' out of MTV? “BTW, Stik and Rocksee are on the money about MTV, IMO. I used to be an avid MTV watchere in the 80's and into the early 90's. I can accept that the new vision of programming there is 'not for me', but maybe for others a the younger set. I feel that it has gotten so sophomoric that it borderlines on pitiful. But, that is my opinion only. But, when it comes to glorifying a stay in jail (which this is essentially doing), I think they have overstepped the bounds. It's indicative of what the move to reality TV (which is a misnome to begin with, because there is nothing real about 95% of this crap) where you no longer have to exhibit talent to 'act' on television. Dusfunctional behavior is encouraged and rewarded and cosmetics have pushed acting ability aside. As long as i was dragged into this thread, i figured I would give an opinion. DISCLAIMER: The opinion given here is solely from the mind of one, Treebeard, and is not intended to reflect the opinions of the management or of any of my detractors!” 8:13:39 AM 10/01/03 “Sorry about the spelling. Didn't proofread...” 8:14:51 AM 10/01/03 “"Since MTV is not really a music channel, I have never seen the J'Lo Flashdance video and I am pissed." Ya ain't missing anything dude. Her bare a$$ looks like two sacks of cottage cheese.” 8:16:55 AM 10/01/03 “Oh great- another MTV reality show with a bunch of whiney gen-Y'ers who cant't get along. At least this one won't deal with the serious issue of whom slept with whom. Although.....” 8:29:16 AM 10/01/03 “i really liked the days when they showed rock videos. They had JJ Jackson, Martha Quinn, Nina Blackwell, Alan Hunter and Mark Goodman as VJ's. Anybody else remember those guys?” 8:34:36 AM 10/01/03 “Hey Treebeard, eMpTV 2 shows Headbangers Ball on Saturday night again. Some good new stuff and some good old stuff too.” 8:46:56 AM 10/01/03 “cool, nig. didn't know that. been ignoring MTV for so long now, i don't know what they show. actually, I have quite a few things i recorded from back then that would probably be pretty fresh to view now. Two of the MTV New Year's Eve balls and my prize possession, the Zappa/MTV Halloween simulcast of 1981” 9:01:46 AM 10/01/03 “One really cool idea for MTV to try would be to have a station dedicated to music, and to show tons of videos and concerts.” 12:35:33 PM 10/01/03 “Of course, a reality show about prison life wouldn't be a bad idea if it was done in a way that would educate people to stay out of jail. It's hard to imagine MTV would do that kind of show.” 12:37:56 PM 10/01/03 “"VH1 ran a deal last year of a rock star in jail doing a concert. i found that equally offensive. stratdewd 10:53:23 PM" Even worse, I heard that some guy(crud, I don't keep track of names) who had videos on MTV was doing songs about prison life, and coming out with live album recorded in prison. Like Leonny Cohen says(sings): "Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing Nothing you can measure anymore The blizzard, the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned the order of the soul"” 12:43:05 PM 10/01/03 “Nice to see Treebeard with his panties in a bunch again. Some things never change. LOL, I thought this was going to be a thread about the latest white house investigations.” 12:48:10 PM 10/01/03 “I didn't bring my name into the thread, IJ, in case you didn't notice...” 1:01:59 PM 10/01/03 just a question “how do you glorify prison? anyone that falls for that will probably end up there one day anyway. you guys are b!tching and moaning about this show already before you've seen it. for all we know, it could make kids want to stay out of jail even more than they do now. im not trying to trample anyone's opinion, but jeez, i don't care how cool prison looks. you're not gonna make me think it would be anything more than miserable.” 11:59:05 AM 10/02/03 lookout... “great minds have spoken...except in Ducttape's and 2 scoops case... hehehe” 12:01:41 PM 10/02/03 “another low-blow from stikmon. what a surprise. and the even more surprising thing is, he still thinks hes above us.” 1:25:59 PM 10/02/03 “who really watches this crap?” 1:27:35 PM 10/02/03 “if it was done in a way that would educate people to stay out of jail. It's hard to imagine MTV would do that kind of show." "Scared Straight" wasnt that on mtv?” 1:30:58 PM 10/02/03 treebeard lets share some MTV VHS “Hey,I liked Ricky Rockman back then . Seemed every week he vj'd he had more and more tattoos. Maybe we could mail each other a copy of our MTV videos- mine is from 1989 New Years' eve countdown! During 1981 I was too busy djing at the Mudd Club and Danceteria (along with other clubs of that era) to catch them on tape myself. The Peppermint Lounge used to have small tv's around the dance floor where they tuned into MTV without the sound- just for the visual effect. Aah, memories....” 2:32:16 PM 10/02/03 i remember... “danceteria...went there once...Ilike the Limelight, now that was a club...54 was cool, but VERY hoity toity.” 2:34:24 PM 10/02/03 “Danceteria! I used to go there and I loved the Mudd Club. That place didn't get going until 12 or 1 AM. Such a fun spot! I used to frequent the Ritz a lot. Rocksee, I would love to excange some vids. Please feel free to e mail me sometime and we can talk about it, OK?” 2:50:19 PM 10/02/03 stikmon “hey, rocksee here. maybe we met once long ago. I performed at Limelight on NYEve with a cabaret act maybe 1985 it was a "hooray for hollywood" theme and we all wore gold lame' jumpsuits with cruiseship headdresses in the opening act. Strange but true,I for one have had a full and interesting existance, maybe that is why I like the trail so much now! All those clubs are but memories now..” 1:31:56 AM 10/03/03 I used to go and participate in the... “annual Halloween parade down in the Village. I dressed as the Mad Hatter. I never did find Alice, but I always a had a good time.” 11:20:12 AM 10/03/03 “That is ONE wild parade, Stik. We have one annually in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where we live and it is a really good one too. Looking forward to it in a few weeks!” 11:21:40 AM 10/03/03 “Preemption House Dear Mr. Ailes, With the American body count in Iraq passing the 500 mark and more soldiers dying on an almost daily basis, it's only a matter of time until the liberal press moves from covering important issues like Dean's barbaric yawp to focusing on the problems we're having with the occupation. It's vital that we do more to tell people the other side of the story. Anyone who watches Fox News regularly knows that the average Iraqi citizen loves the US and is grateful for the opportunity to be occupied by the greatest nation on Earth. The problem is that most Americans don't watch Fox, so they don't hear that message. I have an idea about how to change that. Americans love reality TV shows. Let's do one on Fox News about a bunch of Americans living in Iraq. Such a show would increase your ratings while spreading the word about how much the average Iraqi loves the occupation. Furthermore, if it's a hit, it will probably draw viewers to your other programing where they'll hear the same message again. I'm thinking that we put some of the conservative movement's best communicators in a house in Falluja for a month, people like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Peggy Noonan. I'm picturing the house as being painted to look like a big American flag with a nice green lawn and a lawn jockey out front. No fences, no guards--just you're average suburban home, but with cameras everywhere. We could call it something like "Occupied Territory" or "Preemption House." Viewers could watch the housemates as they interact with the people in their neighborhood. They could see Ahmad and Maha joke with Bill and Peggy over a nice breakfast of ham and eggs. They could go door to door with Coulter and Hannity and listen to them explain how the Koran is for girly-men. They could follow Rush as he looks for an English speaking pharmacist. I think it would be a huge hit. More importantly, it would show Americans just how supportive the Iraqis are of the occupation. It'd be a win for both Fox News and America. I hope you'll consider it. Heterosexually yours, Gen. JC Christian, Patriot” 1:25:04 PM 1/26/04 “Great idea. Have Parris Hilton join 'em. That should spice up the mix a little!” 1:38:48 PM 1/26/04 “I like the Seuss promotes sodomy ad on the right of the linked page, there Violin. geez, what next.” 1:51:43 PM 1/26/04 “Very funny stuff. I like tree's suggestion, too.” 1:58:15 PM 1/26/04 2:14:01 PM 11/03/04
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