Massachusetts to allow gay marriage

“Mainstream America once thought slavery and not allowing women and black people to vote was OK too. Hell, they even thought drinking was bad at one point, bastards!”

““Hey, didn't I see you in the city park?”
bbw
2:09:58 PM
11/03/04
ignore this user

No that was me. I was staring at your tight little a$$ though!”

“LOL!”

“No that was me. I was staring at your tight little a$$ though!”
Ten inch Johnson
2:16:44 PM
11/03/04

You weren't the first. Keep your fantasy Johnson to yourself.”

“came up with this:

"There is no medical evidence to suggest an association between homosexuality and impaired moral judgment."
- Journal of the American Medical Association - Pediatric Forum, March 2001

Additionally, in their article entitled "Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation", the U.C. Davis Psychology Department concludes:
"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."”

“bbw is just trolling, LiRM35.

But the info is much appreciated.
last edited: 11/03/04 3:30:36 PM”

“"I guess I made the foolish assumption that marriage was based on a monogamous relationships"

when did i say or insinuate that it wasnt? yes,Yes,YES, marriage is a monogamous relationship, yes i agree with that.
so let me see if ive got the score so far: your main complaint with gays is that theyre promiscous, so the answer is to not permit them into societally-approved monogamous relationships?

BRILLIANT!
last edited: 11/03/04 3:44:55 PM”

“cmon, trailhound, at least bbw is man enough to admit that he doesnt like them for purely personal and emotional reasons. they repulse him. you cant rationalize your position. you think theyre icky, or if youre part of the religious right, you think theyre icky sinners. just say it. youll feel better”

“I am not merely trolling. I am stating my opinion. I just don't get all wound up and stressed over it.”

“anyway, im probably spending too much time defending the park trollers cuz quite frankly, i dont like their methods either. it stinks of desperation and predatory inclinations. but like twonks so eloquently pointed out and bbw and trailhound have so nicely stepped around, STRAIGHTS ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR. not necessarily in parks, but in bars, on the street, etc. its the predatory/aggressiveness that is wrong, not being gay UNLESS all gays acted that way WHICH THEY DONT. why can you not get this?”

“i am not wound up and stressed out, bbw. i just happen to be more articulate (some might say long-winded) than you .”

“I don't see this type of behavior by straight people in public parks or rest areas.”

“ok i lied. i do get a little wound up when i see willful ignorance in the face of perfectly sound reasoning, especially when that willful ignorance contributes to the hostile atmosphere that un-deserving citizens of my country must endure.”

“So you won't be trolling for little boys in the public parks anymore?”

“"I don't see this type of behavior by straight people in public parks or rest areas"

nice try at being misleading, bbw. but what did i say right after that?
"
not necessarily in parks, but in bars, on the street, etc"

once again, i knew i could count on you to be a weasel and purposely miss the point”

“I never said anything about bars. I was merely restating my original point.”

“ok i can see rational discourse is pointless. i dont know why i try”

“bars, parks, whatever. WHERE it takes place is beside the point. why are you so fixated on parks? its the predatory/aggressive behaviour you are opposed to, no?”

“"I don't see this type of behavior by straight people in public parks or rest areas"

no, but you do see it, right? by lots and lots of straight males, for the most part. thereefore all straight men are evil, by your logic”

“If I were to go into a gay bar and a man hit on me I would find it less offensive.

The State Hwy Dept. have closed all the rest stops on the I-40 corridor, because of the homosexuals. It is not just me who finds this behaviour immoral and offensive.”

“RIGHT. define "this behavior". the predatory behavior, or the gay behavior?

i imagine foremost in their mind was public safety. ppl dont feel safe when approached by strangers in a sexual way, WHETHER BY STRAIGHT OR GAY

god this is like banging my head against a wall”

“god this is like banging my head against a wall”
Crash Bang
5:12:08 PM
11/03/04

I agree. That's why I don't "debate" with certain peeps.”

“some predators are gay
some predators are straight
some straights are predators
some gays are predators
not all straights are predators
NOT ALL GAYS ARE PREDATORS
many gays go their entire lives without commiting a crime or victimizing another person
some people from arkansas will die alone and bitter”

“bbw, here is your argument

predatory behavior is immoral
all gays are predators

therefore, all gays are immoral

that would be good reasoning IF the second assumption were true. however, the second statement is false, therefore invalidating your argument. i wish i was more computer literate so i could draw you a graph”

““cmon, trailhound, at least bbw is man enough to admit that he doesnt like them for purely personal and emotional reasons. they repulse him. you cant rationalize your position. you think theyre icky, or if youre part of the religious right, you think theyre icky sinners. just say it. youll feel better”
Crash Bang

Crash all I was saying is that you statement lacked any logical thought. If you want to know my beliefs just ask. I guess if you like to classify white southern married heterosexual that reads his Bible daily part of the religious right, I guess in your eyes that I am. However, I don't have a hatred for homosexual individuals! Hate the sin not the sinner! And with that, I can say we have all fallen short of God's glory. In fact two of my most talented friends are gay. They understand my disapproval of their lifestyles but were still friends. I really don't understand you saying I "can't rationalize my position?" Do you want me to justify my belief? Here one of hundreds of scripture.
Corinthians 6:9 Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, 10thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers, and swindlers--none of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God. 11There was a time when some of you were just like that, but now your sins have been washed away,[3] and you have been set apart for God. You have been made right with God because of what the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God have done for you.”

“ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I spewed coffee the first time I saw this, and I did it again after posting this photo!!!!!”

“75% of Arkansas votes against Homosexual Marriage. It ain't just me.”

“"Crash all I was saying is that you statement lacked any logical thought."

WRONG it was a very logical statement. speculative, but logical. if im so illogical then break it down with logic.

and dont start quoting scripture to prove your point, because not everyone believes in the bible or in god for that matter. as for me, i believe in a higher power, but i do not believe the bible is the word of god, so trying to use the bible to prove something is pointless. its NOT a given that the bible is the word of god, so dont assume you can use it for your proofs.”

““75% of Arkansas votes against Homosexual Marriage. It ain't just me.”

and i suppose arkansas speaks for the entire nation?

if 75 percent of arkansans jumped off a bridge, would you?

150 years ago, 75 percent of arkansans would have said slavery was ok and women shouldnt vote. sometimes the majority is wrong
last edited: 11/04/04 10:13:17 AM”

“Crash you accused me of not being able to rationalize my position assuming and insinuating that I hate homosexuals, which is certainly not true. Never did I attempt to prove a point by using scripture. I did however give you a small glimpse of who I am, what I believe and why since you had attempted to profile me for everyone. My disagreement with you lies with your conjecture that if we allow same-sex marriages, homosexuals would be less fearful and be less likely to resort to rest-stops and parks. My reply was how fearless, wide open, with a "stick it in your face because you can't do anything about it" attitude can you get than explicit PDA in the middle of a public park?”

“Perhaps gay men would be less likely to bother you, bacpac, if they were married and worried about kids and a mortgage.”

“Don't blame me for their immoral behavior. I have kids and there were a lot of times I wish I could have taken them to the park without worrying that some crank sucker was going to molest them.”

“Glad to see someone out there is breeding hate. I was beginning to worry.”

“Right. Do you wear a white, green or purple hood?”

“I am not breeding hate. I am sharing real life experiences.”

“"Never did I attempt to prove a point by using scripture"

ummmm yes you did: "Do you want me to justify my belief? Here one of hundreds of scripture."

sorry for lumping you in with the likes of bbw, however. i find your attitude of semi-tolerance to be rare, and jumped to the wrong conclusion. i should have acknowledged that there are basically two anti-gay camps: the ones like bbw, whose reasons are more visceral and based on negative personal experiences, and then those like you who feel they are defying god.

you must remember, however, not everyone has the same religious beliefs. just about every major religion rejects homosexuality, but not every person in the world believes in religion, and even those that do, dont always agree 100% with their chosen religions, or feel that the texts have been mis-interpreted.
thank you for sharing who you are. however, while you may take it for granted that the bible is utter Truth and the Word of God, many believe it is a pack of lies and absolute bull. i fall somewhere in the middle. bringing religion into this discussion is opening a whole other wormbox. when having a rational discussion, it is important to start with assumptions that everyone can agree upon.”

“"75% of Arkansas votes against Homosexual Marriage. It ain't just me.”
bbw
6:09:41 PM
11/03/04

75% of Arkansas votes against constitutional principle.

Am I surprised??

How many would vote to teach Xianity in public schools?”

“I would. It is taught in our public school.”

“A student says a prayer over the loudspeaker before every football game.”

“how fearless, wide open, with a "stick it in your face because you can't do anything about it" attitude can you get than explicit PDA in the middle of a public park?"

we can give them the same rights as married couples. thats how wide open we can and should get.

are you denying that homosexuals have been oppressed violently, especially in the past?”

““A student says a prayer over the loudspeaker before every football game.”
bbw
12:53:25 PM
11/04/04

Aaaaaaaa-Laaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

“i really need to start blocking fuego again”

“Bacpac, who says anyone would bother your children? That sounds like more fear-mongering histrionics from you.

I know and am friends with far too many homosexuals to believe that your concern is based on anything other than your own personal insecurity - what that insecurity stems from is not clear, though.

Oooh, I can't go to the park with my children because there are gays there! Jesus, you seriously have some issues.”

“Yo Phaedrus, wanna go to the park?”

“Personal experience. Not personal insecurity. I do have issues about homosexuals trolling in public parks. You know it happens. You may like it, but I find it repugnant. So do a lot of other people.”

“A lot of people are racists who believe that black and white people should not interbreed. I'll stand against them as well.

It's a matter or morality to give people equal opportunities for happiness.”

“i find it repugnant too. it still doesnt make consenual, private, gay sex wrong.”

“most trailtalkers find you, repugnant, bbw. i think we should outlaw you.”

“PDA, public display of affection?

If y'all don't like it, move to some place REALLY conservative like China, Iran, North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

People are flogged or jailed for PDA in places like that.”