Massachusetts to allow gay marriage

“Well my opinion on homosexual marriage puts me in the 75% majority. I have read the UC Davis study, but there are many studies that refute it.

How about that NAMBLA?”
bbw
10:00:10 AM
11/06/04

How typical. When a series of studies show conclusively that you're wrong, refer to a mysterious, nebulous "Many studies" that say the opposite. Make sure not to post any evidence, though, because that might mean actually having to defend your argument.

Haven't we already talked about your moral majority issues? Was segregation moral? It was certainly supported by the vast majority of voters in the south at the time it was overturned. Your assertion that consensus of opinion makes morality is laughable, yet typical.

Why do you keep bleating NAMBLA? Did someone here defend pedophilia, or are you just trying to squirm out of the realm of rational discussion because you're getting smeared?”

“How do you ignore the studies done on the Catholic Priest's that you joke about? I could post a bunch of links to studies, but they are not nebulous or mysterious they are easily found via google.

I keep asking about NAMBLA, because it is an organized homosexual group who's aim is seducing children.

The vast majority of Americans oppose homosexual marriage and as usual, you come down on the wrong side of the majority. Calling people bigots, because they disagree with you is not an answer the majority of Americans will accept.”

“So, what was your question, Steve?”

“Chuck and Buck, two homos, meet in a gay bar.

They go back to Buck's apartment and Buck says. "I don't want to insult you, but I have to ask. Do you have aids?"

Chuck replies, "No, and I don't mind you asking."

With relief, Buck admits, "Thank goodness, I don' want that sh@t again."”

“A man, named Gerry, asked his doctor if there was a test to see to help him determine if he was gay.

The doctor said, "Yes, there is. Please pull down your pants."

Gerry pulled down his pants, the doctor grabbed his testicles and told him to say 55. The man said "55."

The doctor then grabbed the man's #&%!$ and told him to say 55. Gerry said "55".

The doctor then told the man to turn around, and putting a finger in the man's anus he once again told him to say 55.

Gerry said, "1...2...3..."”

“Bacpac, is a pedophile not a pedophile whether he abuses a male or a female child?

I'll post this again for emphasis:

"a child's risk of being molested by his or her relatives' heterosexual partner is over one hundred time greater than by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual."

I have no patience for NAMBLA, nor any group that advocates legal sexual relations between adults and children of either sex.

The vast majority of Americans oppose homosexual marriage and as usual, you come down on the wrong side of the majority. Calling people bigots, because they disagree with you is not an answer the majority of Americans will accept

I could care less if you accept it or not. The fact of the matter is that your prejudice is standing in the way of other people's rights. And as before, majority does not make morality.”

“a child's risk of being molested by his or her relatives' heterosexual partner is over one hundred time greater than by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual."

Phaedrus
12:56:55 PM
11/06/04

Why do you use that very specific instance of abuse to make your point? How many homosexuals have children? Why not an over all percentage of homosexuals who abuse children compared to the same percentage of heterosexuals?

You are in denial on NAMBLA. It is a homosexual group.”

“A few years ago a man who was openly gay was elected as Mayor of Key West, Florida. After the election results were in, a hoard of reporters surrounded him and began asking him questions on how he won. A young reporter walked up to him and said,

"Mr. Mayor, I understand that you used a basic grass roots campaign to win, met lots of people, shook lots of hands, kissed lots of babies. I even heard that you kissed a parakeet."

The Mayor replied, "That's right young man. I brought the campaign to the people, but I must correct you on one point, I did not kiss a parakeet ... I kissed a Cock-or-two."”

“Now you're shifting the burden of proof. If you contend that Homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest a child, then you need to prove that.

NAMBLA is a pedophile group. The blindingly obvious point of this is that Gay marriage does not have a damn thing to do with NAMBLA.”

“I refer you to the Catholic Priest Study.”

““Boy, if that isn't typical of the far right.

bbw...why are you still here? Have you no honor?

Or are you like many of the far right....good at telling others how to live their lives, while using another standard for yourself.
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RE: I'm never coming back to this site again!

“Why are we even having this discussion? The entire pretense of this thread was Oldies' decision to disassociate himself from people who refuse to support the homosexual life style.

It is clear that very few people here support the homosexual lifestyle.

I think it is time for Oldie to take the high road and take a hike.

I have said a lot of things in my posts, but I never mislead or lied to anyone. If you don't agree with me, fine.

If I ever say I am leaving, I am gone. I wish everyone had the same courage and conviction.”
bacpac
5:06:41 PM
7/15/00”


“Since Matt deleted my first and only trip report I have decided to stop posting to this site.
Good luck everyone.”
bacpac
6:43:43 PM
11/14/02


Why are you still here?

What happened to your courage and conviction?
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“So you're saying that the catholic church attracts homosexual pedophiles? Let's ban Catholicism, then.”

“I never said that. Go read the study.”

“Why he's still here deserves it's own thread. Let me take care of that...”

“Of course, you need to deflect attention away from the homosexual/pedophilia facts.”

“I'll grant that catholic priests are more likely to molest a male child. That does not prove that a homosexual is more likely to molest a child than a heterosexual.
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“Trying to reason with bbw is like trying to get Bush to admit he made a mistake....it ain't gonna happen.”

“Phaedrus, do a google search on homosexual/pedophilia.

There is a lot of evidence to refute the UC Davis study.

You took the time to review all of my posts for six years and you can't find anything on this? You aren't trying.”

“It's your burden of proof. You just have to give a couple of links to the research you think is solid.”

“Don't get lazy now. You spent a lot of time searching the TT database.”

“As I explained on the other thread, Google did that for me.

Shifting the burden of proof is a specialized form of the argumentum ad ignorantiam. It consists of putting forward an assertion without justification, on the basis that the audience must disprove it if it is to be rejected. Normally we take it that the new position must have supporting evidence or reason adduced in its favour by the person who introduces it. When we are required instead to produce arguments against it, he commits the fallacy of shifting the burden of proof.
http://www.adamsmith.org/logicalfallacies/000656.php”

“So you deliberatly choose to ignore the available data that does not support your position. Of course.”

“You've given none.”

“You are the google king...until you find something that does not support your opinion.

The information is available for everyone to do their own research. I don't beleive in selective arguements that only prove my point.

You saw no need to provide evidence to support your claim that NAMBLA was a heterosexual organization.”

“I never said NAMBLA was anything other than a pedophile organization. Everyone can read what I said.

You're the one trying to make an argument, so you're the one who needs to provide evidence for it. As it stands, I'll have to assume you can't and that I've utterly trounced your weak attempt at cogent thought.”

“I read the evidence, cant you. It's easy, read what he posted, go to the links and READ. Now understanding what you read could be a problem.

You seem to have a fixation on NAMBLA, could that be like the latent homosexual thing?”

“Of course, accusing me of being a homosexual is the perfect and most logical explaination of your position.”

“Logic has nothing to do with your apparently visceral revulsion to all things homosexual.
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“LOL, you go boy.
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“So then, why do you kids keep using that logic?”

“Squirm squirm, little worm.”

“Squirm squirm, little worm.

Phaedrus
2:41:07 PM
11/06/04

I don't want to get into a discussion about your #&%!$.”

“Good.

Try getting into a discussion about the topic, then.”

“Is he talking about your #&%!$"

And he questioned my bringing up the latent homosexual thing...LOL

Ya gotta get that stuff off your mind bbw”

“Bringing up my latent homosexual tendencies is absurd. I don't have any, but it continues to resurface in the debate.

The argument that people who oppose homosexuality are homosexual is absurd, but it is the standard defense given by homosexual proponents.”

“Phaedrus wants to live and die based upon the UCDavis study. There is a ton of evidence that clearly proves homosexuals are many times more likely to be pedophiles.

Ask the kids.”

“Phaedrus, so your wife is in complete agreement with the amount of time you spend on line defending homos.

And your wife has no interest in posting on TT? And you are married to a woman, right?

Hello? What am I missing?”

“My wife divorced me, because I spent too much on line.

She was right.”

“There is a ton of evidence that clearly proves homosexuals are many times more likely to be pedophiles.

Ask the kids.”
bbw
2:08:21 PM
11/06/04

Still waiting for you to post any bit of evidence that you think is solid supporting this claim.”

“You spent all that time searching my posts and now you can't find something as obvious as this?

Why should you be taken seriously?

Ten minutes. It will not take ten minutes and you want me to do it?

I will do it later. Be a man and do it sooner.”

“It's not my job to support your claims. It's yours. Be a man and do your own damn job.
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“Ok bbw, I think I'm starting to see the light here. Now that I'm on your side I say we take care of this by getting to the root of the problem. We'll round up all the little kiddies that are being molested, because studies show the will grow up to be pedophiles, and we will kill them all. Sure, they're kids but they're also future pedophiles. They should all die a fiery death, mwooo ha ha ha!”

“SilentJ and Phaedrus are in denial.

There is lots of evidence available to prove that homosexuals are many times more likey to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

Do your own research. Make an effort and stop the predatory threat of homosexuals.”

“Ridiculous.

Bacpac has taken illogic to a level of artistic science.”

“Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.”

“Idiot? biggot? coward?

When you resort to name calling you lose.”

“Only if it's part of my argument. For me, calling you a moronic biggoted coward is just icing on the cake.

I've made a clear argument that you have no idea how to refute, so you're sulking like a little girl and trying to goad me by making comments about my marriage. It's less than I would expect from a high-school kid, but about par for you.”

“Look, bbw, if we got rid of the gays then we'd have no more girl on girl porn. Stop the madness already.”

“Phaedy, Don't blame your failed marriage on the rest of the world.
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“When you resort to name calling you lose.”
bbw
4:32:23 PM
11/06/04

Phaedy, you are a faggot. Don't blamed your failed marriage on the rest of the world.”
bbw
4:51:01 PM
11/06/04

And you wonder why I call you an idiot?
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