Weight : Comfort Ratio - Sleeping System s

“What sort of weight to comfort ratio do you have for your sleeping sytems (bag, liner, pad, shelter)? I know this changes by season/condition.... what is your weights for:
Summer
Winter

List componants and weight.

I've learned alot from observing others on this board, asking questions, doing research, and finding my own comfort level. I thought I could learn more, and help the newbies as well.

My set up:
Summer (65+ degrees):
Trekker Tarp w/mesh - 3.5 lbs
Thermarest Guidelite Long - 2 lbs
Marmot Black Magic Liner - 1.4 lbs

Total 6.9 lbs.

Winter (-40 to 20 degrees):
ID Salathe - 2 lbs.
MH King Tut - 4.8 lbs
Thermarest Guidelite Long - 2 lbs
Ridgerest Long - 1 lb.

Total - 9.8 lbs”

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for the summer I just usually cowboy camp. But I do have two diffrent tents in case of weather- North Face Talus (which im going to sell or trade since I no longer need it and dont want it cluttering up the place, and a solo tent the roadster. Im not sure how much they weigh :)

I just use a z-rest to sleep on (3/4 length) but will get a therma rest for winter snow camping :)”

“oh yeah i do use a sleeping bag...15 degree for summer (I am a super cold sleeper, as mike) I will prolly steal his -20 degree for winter :)”

“When I'm finished hiking I go to Neverland and sleep with Michael.”

“winter:
mountain smith 15 degree bag vision
1.b 15 oz

thermarest 2/4 ultra light performance - 1.b 2 oz

Thermarest ridge rest full size - 14 ounces

north face canyonland 3 lb 14 ounces packed weight.

Reactor® Thermolite Mummy sleeping bag liner - 8.1 oz.

summer:
same but only one thermarest and no liner.


I know my sleeping bag is way to warm for summer and to cold for real winter backpacking. I am working on that.”

“Hey wait, Gem, shouldn't you have exactly the same stuff I do?”

“For summer I use

Hennessey hammock - Ultralight A sym 31 oz
WM Caribou 21 oz
Foam pad from wilderness fabrics: 4 oz.

56 oz (3 1/2 pounds)

I think those are right... I don't have time to look up my winter stats - but I had to post - its great to see a real gear thread!”

“Damn Ped! That is verrrrry light!”

“My summer set up is very versatile and comfortable.

Winter, my shelter varies but the rest is:

MH big bang bag
Nylon liner
Thermarest Guidelite Long
Ridge rest 3/4s (xtra clothes pack, etc. can go under missing 1/4.. or I might use the foam from my summer set up)”

“Summer:
Shelter: Homebuilt tarptent for 2 27 oz
Mattress: 3/4 Thermarest Guidelight 22 oz
Bag: Homebuilt 40* down quilt 17 oz
Total - 66 oz = 4.125#

Winter

Add Campmor 20* down (42oz) and a full length foam pad (16 oz)

Total - 66 + 42 + 16 = 124 oz = 7.75#”

“winter total: 8.32 lb. so far. (that's alot...ahhh)
summer total: 6.94 summer weight.

hope my math is right. well, it's good enough.”

“Good question!
Let’s see how much attention this thread gets...

Summer (bug season):
Tent 3/14
silk liner 0/5
¾ thermorest ul 0/15
TNF Blue Kazoo +20 2/8 (need a summer bag)
Total: 7# / 10oz

Spring & Fall:
Siltarp or Bivy 1/ 2
silk liner 0/5
¾ thermorest ul 0/15
TNF Blue Kazoo +20 2/8
Total 4# 14oz

Winter:
Siltarp or Bivy 1/ 2
silk liner 0/5
¾ thermorest ul 0/15
full length ridgerest 1/1
TNF Serac –5 bag 4/0 (need a down bag)
Total 7# 7oz”

“WOW! I will have to get back to you with the weights.

SUMMER:
REI Fleece Liner
3/4 Thermarest

Fall:
Slummberjack Go-Lite 45 degree
cotton liner
3/4 Thermarest

Winter:
Kelty (don't know what it is called) 20 degree
cotton liner
3/4 Thermarest”

“How do you manage to get into your summer set-up? The combo of foam pad & slippery sleepbag make getting into my hammock an adventure every time. I've even thought about ditching the pad and using an extra bag.”

“5'6"
105lbs in the summer

but in the winter I prefer something with a bit more on'r

125lb give or take few


:)”

“B Bear thats a good set up for backpacking I know your a strong man and that weight should not get too you.


8)”

“Good gawd Pete! I wish I'da thought of that!

LMAO!”

“Great thread BB!

warm, no bugs...
8x10 sil-tarp 14ounce
REI traveldown 45 degree 1lbs 8 ounce
3/4 thermarest UL 15 ounce
total= just shy of 3lb 8 ounce

warm with bugs
REI travel down 45deg 1lb 8 ounce
3/4 thermarest UL 15 ounce
MH batray 3lb 10 ounce
total=6lb 2ounce

spring/fall
Big Agnes Zirkel 20deg down 2lb 2 ounce
Big Agnes R.E.M. pad 1lb 6 ounce
Trekker Tarp (no insert) 2lbs 8 ounce
total= 6lbs

winter
REI downtime -5 3lb 5 ounce
Ridgerest 1lb 2 ounce
trekker tarp (no insert) 2lb 8 ounce
total= 7lb”

“Base setup:

Hennessy asym hammock 31 oz?
Nanatuk arc-alpinest Blanket 28 oz
Under-quilt 24 oz (could be lighter)

83 oz or about 6 lbs

In the winter and cool weather I add a layer of fleece - maybe 2 lbs... good down to about 0 degrees”

“summer:

hennessy ul asym 1# 15oz
wm hooded aspen 2# 4oz
total 4# 3oz


not winter but too cool for hammock:

id silshelter 1# 3oz
t rest ul 3/4 1#
wm hooded aspen 2# 4 oz
total 4# 7 oz

same situation but with dog:
replace silshelter with msr zoid 1.5 making it 6# 12oz

winter
working on a new system as we speak, so keep em comin everybody”

“Summer:
NF Cats Meow bag with a closed cell foam pad. Either NF Canyonlands tent (without the rainfly) or a bivy sack.

Fall/Spring:
Same, except I might bring along a Thermarest and a bag liner. Complete Canyonlands tent or NF Tadpole tent

Winter:
NF Superlight bag, bag liner, Closed cell foam pad and a Thermarest. Canyonlands or Tadpole tent. If going to a colder area outside of South. Calif in winter I'd take my Feathered Friends bag (way too warm at -30F!). Might also rent a different tent.

In case you're wondering: I have a lot of North FAce gear because I used to live near the outlet center in the San Francisco area.”

“Winter when I drag it on a sled:
Down Dryloft shell sl bag 10/25 deg. - 2 lb, 6 oz
overbag(fleece w/nylon cover) when needed - 2 lb
SI pad 2" thick - 2 lb, 12 oz
closed cell foam pad 5/8" - 18 oz
tent, sorta 4 season - 5.5 lb.

Winter without the sled:
down bag - 2 lb, 6 oz
same overbag
SI pad 1 1/4" - 1 lb, 6oz
closed cell foam pad 5/8" - 18 oz.
tent 3 lb, 8 oz.

The sleeping bag performs very well alone down to around 0 deg, and I have survived in it at minus 25. :) excellent bag!

Summer (and spring/fall):
synthetic or down bag, or fleece liner bag - 2 lb/1.5 lb
SI pad or closed cell foam pad - 1 lb, 6 oz/18 oz
tent 3 lb, 8 oz

Ho-hum list, no surprises here, I guess!”

“hey cow-patty good to see ya!”

“Pedxing
"How do you manage to get into your summer set-up? ."
helinka

... I throw the pad in first. It's FY-20 which is similar to bevazote (or so I'm told), I cut it wide (about 23 inces) so that its harder to roll off of it curls around me just a bit which also helps insulate. In the summer, I often use a liner and start out with the bag beside me, as it gets cooler I put it over me as a blanket (thats why its worth a few ounces for me to have a full zip bag) and then finally I start to zip it up a little... as needed).

Of course I lay everything in the hammock lengthwise before getting in and set up the mat carefully.

The one downside of the fy-20 is that it doesn't fold or compress well - so its tough wrestling it into a small backpack. It tore at the point where I made a jagged cut (fortunately I took a bigger than desired piece with the idea of cutting it down on the trail). It is, however, amazingly comfortable for a thick tough pad.”

“i have so many different configurations i wouldn't know where to start. it all depends on how many kids and/or wifes i have hiking with me.

i could use a good, light, reasonable priced down winter bag.....”

“I know I was coveting Laqutis' big ol' T-Rest Barkalounger last weekend!”

“You went hiking the weekend of Michigan/OSU? What kind of fan are you?”

“We had my trekking pole jammed into the picnic table and the antena wrapped around it so we could hear the game. We could barely pull it in but got hear most of the last half.

I guess in a nutshell it come down to- friends first, football second. LOL!”

“You could also spin it that it was such a foregone conclusion of victory that you didn't want to even bother staying home.”

“My camp chair is one of the last things I would take outta my pack. I love that thing. Well worth the 1.5 it costs me.

Summer (When I go) -

Tent - 4.5 lbs
Bag - 1.5 lbs
Pad - 2.5 lbs

equals 8.5 lbs give or take a pound or two......

Fall/Spring -

Tent - 1.5 lbs
Bag - 2.0 - 3.5 lbs(depending on temps)
Pad - 2.5 lbs

equals - 7.5 at the most

Winter -

Tent - 1.5 lbs
Bag - 3.5 lbs
Pad - 2.5 lbs


7.5 at the most.

Perty consistant. My summer time weight would be next to mothing if there are no bugs, tho. It would be

tent - 1.5
bag - 1.5
pad - 2.5

total - 5.5”

“Does being married and unmarried count?”

“Lesse... My problem (well, not really a problem) is that I have numerous shelters and since I don't want any of them to feel bad, I rotate which ones I take on a trip. Thus, the weight of my set up will vary. And, my other problem is that my gear weight spreadsheet is at work... so weights will not be included in my post. :-p

The last few trips:

Nov - Manistee River - No bugs, Really Freakin' Cold:

Shelter: 8x10 SilTarp
Sleeping Bag: SD Silver Lining -10
Pad: Full Length ThermaRest GuideLight and full lenght piece of hardwares store foam

Oct - Pictured Rocks - No bugs, fall temps:

Shelter: MegaMid
Sleeping Bag: Kelty LightYear 25F
Pad: 3/4 Length ThermaRest UltraLite and a piece of foam cut to the same size as the ThermaRest.

Aug/Sep - Isle Royale - some bugs, late summer/fall temps:

Shelter: 8x10 SilTarp w/ Mantis Bug Mesh
Sleeping Bag: REI Travel Down 45F
Pad: Same as above

June - Hoist Lakes - Bugs, Warm weather:

Shelter: Eureka! Solitaire
Sleeping Bag: REI Travel Down 45F
Pad: 3/4 Length ThermaRest UltraLite”

“Oh, duh, I forgot my most recent trip.

Nov - This side of the Mississippi - No Bugs, above average fall temps:

Shelter: BatRay
Bag: Kelty LightYear 25F
Pad: 3/4 Length ThermaRest Ultralite and 3/4 Length foam pad”