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HATE THE END OF THE SEMESTER!
So while freaking out about finals and senior thesis and other BS college #&%!$ that goes on towards the end of the semester... I contemplated suicide (I'm seriously just joking) but I was curious if it is really impossible to hold your breath until you die?
ScorchFire
7:51:05 PM
11/25/03

Mamabear, you try it first and let me know how it turns out, m'kay?
ScorchFire
7:51:21 PM
11/25/03

Scorchy - prolly not a good analogy kid.
Buddha Bear
7:54:37 PM
11/25/03

Please don't call me kid :P
ScorchFire
7:57:52 PM
11/25/03

It depends on what you hold it with.
pedxing
7:58:36 PM
11/25/03

in the immortal words of freddie mercury:

"dont try suicide, nobody gives a damn"

well, i do. and so do the other trailtalkers (except mamabear). and so does your mom (who is hot, btw), and the rest of your family and friends. and the coroner. hes over-worked already. give him a break, eh?

and you BETTER be just joking.
StormBringer
7:58:37 PM
11/25/03

Oh stop it, I would never do something so stupid. I'm just being an a$$.
ScorchFire
8:00:52 PM
11/25/03

ScorchFire - I'm glad that you are not serious. However, it is a serious problem at many schools.

Two students at my daughter's college commited suscide last year. The school has taken action to try to prevent more suscides.

There are a number of articles available on the subject, suicide in colleges and universities.

Good luck with your finals.
nowslimmer
8:16:50 PM
11/25/03

Scorchy - that is what I was talking about. Nowslimmer brings up the reality of suicide, and it's no joking matter. Heck, we all know you are too gregarious to ever contemplate such a thing, but for some folks, it hits too close to home. :)
Buddha Bear
8:19:05 PM
11/25/03

suicided is a good thing, it filters out the weak.


Scorchypoo, u can't kill ur self by holdign ur breath...U'll hold ur breath, pass out, and start to breath again.
Bloody Tea
8:19:15 PM
11/25/03

liquor's quicker.
Rockman
8:21:19 PM
11/25/03

Sorry
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I've moved to the corner of the room and put on the hat.
nowslimmer
8:21:22 PM
11/25/03

I've heard that suicide is taking the easy way out.
ElfScream
8:28:33 PM
11/25/03

I believe Tea is right about holding your breath.

ScorchFire, I believe you are totally being silly...yet I must say that in most settings, joking about suicide is as well accepted as joking about a bomb when you are on an airplane.

It does hit close to home for so many people, and there are too many cases where no one had a clue...no matter how gregarious, etc. a person is, people can hide a lot of pain behind all kinds of masks. You know this better than I do.

So, I don't mean to lecture...







BUT DON'T DO THIS AGAIN, YA DODO-HEAD!!!

Hugs and good vibes for better grades than you deserve, comin' your way...

:)
Fritz
8:57:16 PM
11/25/03

Yeah, I don't even know you and my heart started pounding when i read the title of the thread

NOT A JOKING MATTER!!!!
tsk
lostsoul
9:00:41 PM
11/25/03

Scorch
Not funny. :(
Don't scare us.
StoveStomper
9:13:20 PM
11/25/03

Sorry!
I didn't mean to freak/scare anyone out, I swear!!

I work with people who were depressed/psychotic and who have killed themselves, so I know it's not a joking matter... I really didn't mean to poke fun at suicide.

However, I really was curious if you could hold your breath long enough for you to die. Just one of those "I wonder" questions.
ScorchFire
9:20:36 PM
11/25/03

It's impossible. Your body will naturally take over before you will die. (Trust me, I'm an Ohio State Buckeye Fan).
Buddha Bear
9:22:36 PM
11/25/03

Cool, you work with zombies!
You work with people who have killed themselves?

I think tea's writing skills have rubbed off on you.
StoveStomper
9:29:22 PM
11/25/03

It is impossible to hold your breath until you die. People are consideder unconscious breathers. Our autonomic system regulates our breathing--we do have some control of our breathing (we can hold our breath) however your brain tells your body to breath. Some mammals such as whales and dolphines are considered conscious breathers--their brain does not tell their body to automatically breath. Because of this dolphines only sleep half of their brain at once, the other half of their brain is used to watch for predators and go to the surface to breath. If you, the unconscious breather attempts to hold your breath until you die, you will simply pass out and your autonomic system will take over and resume breathing. I guess that anatomy and physiology class was good for something.
Dub
9:42:21 PM
11/25/03

show-off
StormBringer
9:45:31 PM
11/25/03

:D

A little known fact...your heartbeat is also an autonomic function and with practice you can slow and speed up your heart as you would your breathing.
Dub
9:47:33 PM
11/25/03

dude, youre not increasing your chances of getting laid; show her your muscles

;D
StormBringer
10:01:49 PM
11/25/03

Fritz hit the nail on the head. I have known 4 people who have committed suicide in my lifetime. Two of them were very close to me and the other two, not as tight with. The one thing I found through this is that none of them ever talked about it. And the two close ones that actually did it...


...Well, all I can say is it was a shock in both cases to the point that I never imagined they were even thinking it.


On the other side of the coin, I have been around some folks who HAVE mentioned this and, although they might have been in a depressed state, never did it and I don't believe ever will. Perhaps, in their cases, it is a cry for attention or something like that.
Treebeard
10:03:15 PM
11/25/03

my best friends mother has "tried" a couple of times. i dont think they were real attempts, more along the lines of cry for help. shes a nurse. she knows enough about human physiology to succeed if she really wanted to.

i just talked to scorch on the telly, shes fine. nothing to see here. move along. just nicotine withdrawal and end of semester blues.

BUT

she admitted to me that she was smoking. AGAIN. and was smoking this past weekend.

get her, everyone.

(sorry, mel, this is for your own good)

: )
StormBringer
10:12:44 PM
11/25/03

IMHO
Suicide... except in cases of chronic pain, progressive terminal illness... is a hostile, nasty and selfish act.
pedxing
10:14:03 PM
11/25/03

Lucinda Williams
see what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
the breath from your own lips
the touch of fingertips
a sweet and tender kiss
the sound of a midnight train
wearing someone's ring
someone calling your name
somebody so warm cradled in your arm
didn't you think you were worth anything
see what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
millions of us in love
promises made good
your own flesh and blood
looking for some truth
dancing with no shoes
the beat, the rhythm, the blues
the pounding of your heart's drum
together with another one
didn't you think anyone loved you
see what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
what you lost when you left this world
this sweet old world
pedxing
10:15:37 PM
11/25/03

to clear things up
I AM NOT SUICIDAL!!! Nor would I ever attempt it or think of it. I lead a completely happy life... I'm sorry I ever posted this thread.

I'm sorry about your friends, Stu. I can't even begin to imagine the pain they were going through to take their own life.

I'm sorry to bring up such a sore spot for anyone where this hits close to home. I obviously wasn't thinking and was in the midst of an "end of the semester" fit.

2poops, you're dead meat.

And Stove - I don't work with zombies, LOL.. I workED with people who killed themselves. Wait a minute.... #&%!$, maybe I'm not a good therapist afterall!!
ScorchFire
10:18:08 PM
11/25/03

JUMP! JUMP!
stratdewd
10:19:53 PM
11/25/03

Scorchy, about this thread....you are forgiven.










But about smoking... eeeeewwwwww, GROSS!!!!!
Fritz
10:22:11 PM
11/25/03

:( I know I know....
ScorchFire
10:23:32 PM
11/25/03

bobo's gonna KILL me
ScorchFire
10:23:50 PM
11/25/03

scorchfire-
you're a therapist and you're only 23 years old?
yam
10:26:19 PM
11/25/03

I'm a mental health case manager.. it's a step down from a therapist, but I run groups occasionally as well when we need fill-ins.
ScorchFire
10:32:12 PM
11/25/03

what the #&%!$ is a bobo?
Tilt
11:08:52 PM
11/25/03

maybe this?

tsk tsk
Tilt
11:14:16 PM
11/25/03

Definition of a bobo
Capnbobo.... he is a TTer!
ScorchFire
11:15:27 PM
11/25/03

Speakin' of suicide, saw alittle disturbing movie last night called 'Rules of Relationships' or something along that line. It a freaky suicide scene in it.

I have known three individuals that have taken their own lives. One by hanging another by gunshot and another by OD. The two former where guys with troubled female relationships and the latter a darling female. What a waste.

Most of these took place while H.S. or just after.
Briar Rabbit
7:07:06 AM
11/26/03

So Scorch... If I hear you, you're saying that you weren't suicidal until after this thread got rolling.
pedxing
8:04:31 AM
11/26/03

LMBO @ pedxing.
nowslimmer
8:13:33 AM
11/26/03

Got no place to go
No love left for me to give

Why should I pretend I like
To roam from door to door
Maybe I’ll just kill myself
I just don’t care no more

I’m not satisfied
Everything I tried
I don’t like the way
Life has been abusing me

Who would care if I was gone?
Who'd need me to care for them?

Why should I just sit and watch
While the others smile?
I just wish that someone cared
If I was happy for a while

’cause I’m not satisfied
Everything I tried
I don’t like the way
Life has been abusing me

I’m not satisfied
Everything I tried
I don’t like the way
Life has been abusing me
I’m not satisfied, I’m not satisfied
Limpy
12:22:03 PM
11/26/03

I'm bobo dammit!
Suicide is for losers.

Autoerotic asphyxiation is another story.....

Hang in there Scorch, you haven't lost until you refuse to get back up on the bob....er,.. horse!
Capn Bobo
12:32:16 PM
11/26/03

a-Ha.
Tilt
12:33:50 PM
11/26/03

having been on suicide watch with a sick brother so many times that i have lost count, is not a joking matter.




with that said, gobble gooble
mapleleaf
12:41:17 PM
11/26/03

It's that time of year, all right...we've had 6 suicide attempts in my rescue squads area in the last 2 weeks. Probably a combination of S.A.D. and pre-holiday stuff, who knows? Only 2 of 'em were successful, one of which was last night when a young guy hung himself. Not a pretty sight.

:\
AmyG
12:41:57 PM
11/26/03

Scorch
Everyhting will be ok :-)
Besides if you screw up finals you just go to summer school and your GPA will be under 3.0, no biggie, life goes on.

Seriously,
My mother did that when I was only 2 years old, so I never knew her. She was a messed up person to do that. It may be why my internal instincts have me dating messed up women now.
Any Sigmond F's out there ?

My heart got pounding just opening the thread. Not yelling at you though, just some thoughts.

Take a cheat sheet if you need to! Besdies you will learn more in life then you'll learn in a class room, but school is very important too.
Good Luck
snafu29
12:56:29 PM
11/26/03

You come into life bloody, naked and penniless... so its all good, now!!!
Limpy
1:04:25 PM
11/26/03

LOL @ Tilt... nice linkage.

Snafu.. sorry to jump-heart you!
ScorchFire
2:44:14 PM
11/26/03

They used to hold exams in the art gallery at my school and they used to cover up one of the pictures as over the years two students had try to kill themselves in front of it.
Or so the myth went anyhow. They did always cover it up just at exam time though ;o)
ynamiynami
2:48:09 PM
11/26/03

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