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Politics
Notice how the Rev. Jesse Jackson sat on the fence and did not commit to either side until it was certain that he could pick the losing side in this drama ?
manuka
3:00:08 PM
3/29/05

George W. Bush and Top Republicans Apologize for Exploiting Schiavo Family's Suffering for Political Gain

Unconfirmed sources report that the President and Republican Congressional leaders have publicly apologized to the Schiavo family for taking advantage of their suffering to score political points. The extraordinary press conference has held at the White House and featured direct apologies as well as a tearful plea for forgiveness from the President himself. Teri Schiavo's parents could not be reached for comment as they were too busy begging the courts to reinsert their daughter's feeding tube.

"I'm real sorry," stated the President through tears of remorse. "we Republicans have done a bad thing. We've taken advantage of your family's suffering to score points with our pro-life conservative base. We have been so hypocritical in fighting for your daughter's life, while at the same time we try to cut the funding that pays for her care. It's sad. We are just a bunch of political grandstanders who don't really give a damn about your daughter, but are simply using you and her for our own ends.

"I'm proud to be Republican." Said Senator Joe Lieberman. "I'm proud to belong to a party that knows when it is being manipulative and hypocritical and has the inner strength to admit it. Sure we are using the whole Schiavo thing to whip up the American public into a mindless frenzy, but what is wrong with that. "

"I was weak." Cried the repentant Tom Delay. "I'm a bad man. I used the suffering of others to further my own political ambitions and keep people from thinking about how much of a criminal I am. I just couldn't help myself. It was just there, an opportunity to make some political hay, so I did. Was it unethical to exploit these people? I think I had better talk to the House ethics committee to see."

When the press conference ended the assembled lawmakers exited the White House as group to attend a pray service for Teri Schiavo hosted by FOX News

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=962
Ewker
3:04:36 PM
3/29/05

So Ewker is Amazing Mort?
VioLin
3:25:16 PM
3/29/05

Who'd a thunk it?
Treebeard
3:25:41 PM
3/29/05

BUSTED!
Nigal
4:17:00 PM
3/29/05

LMAO
StoveStomper
4:19:57 PM
3/29/05

sorry to disappoint you guys but not me. I got the link from the other thread. Lots of funny crap on it.
Ewker
4:22:31 PM
3/29/05

dip her in chocolate!
Tilt
4:23:38 PM
3/29/05

Ewker - Yeah ... and it's chocked full of straw man arguments!!!
last edited: 3/29/05 4:24:31 PM
sarge
4:24:09 PM
3/29/05

chocked full eh...cool..you know your straw
Ewker
4:31:22 PM
3/29/05

Congress Demands Olsen Twins' Feeding Tube be Reinserted

Washington, DC — With Terri Schiavo's case moving through the courts as her life holds in the balance, Congress has taken another unusual step in its unprecedented involvement in the eating habits of Americans, by demanding the Olsen Twin's feeding tube be reinserted immediately.

After three hours of emotional debate, the U.S. House voted 135-96 early today to send President Bush a bill aimed at prolonging the lives of Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen.

Despite largescale protests, the bill, sponsored by House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, must now be approved by a Beverly Hills district court judge, who holds the key to whether the twins should live or die.

"We realize public sentiment is very much divided, but no matter how we feel about the acting ability of the Olsen Twins, we should still make every attempt to save them," DeLay said. "Someday, with new medical therapies they may grow up to lead a normal life."

In the streets of Manhattan where the twins are studying at New York University, everyone seems to have an opinion about the case.

"I've seen a couple of their movies and they walk and talk as if they understand stuff," cabdriver Vinnie D'Angelino said. "I think that in a few years there might be some kind of medical miracle that can let them speak and communicate almost like normal people. We should give them a chance at life. Or not. Whatever."

"I think they should definitely be put out of their misery," said NYU graduate student Bill Gergin. "They may look like they understand us, but they clearly are just two robots who just mimick words like parrots. And they have small breasts. It's unfair to keep them alive."

Publicist Michael Pagnotta refused to speculate about what the judge will do but indicated that previous bouts with eating disorders and dozens of poor quality direct-to-video mystery solving movies, may sway a jury.

"We understand that 'New York Minute' was not well received -- especially in New York," Pagnotta said. "That's why we requested a venue change to Beverly Hills. Only a judge can decide if the twins should live or die, but I've known the girls for years and when they're off camera, they grunt and blink as if they want to live. But really, who knows for sure."
WhackO
7:09:01 PM
3/29/05

I don't mean to pick on the Olsen twins, but when they were on Ophra, the healthier one defended her sister when Ophra mentioned an eating problem and she said her sister did not have one.

I think it was the next week that her sister went into rehab. And by the way, there was much speculation if it was a rehab for her to eat or for using drugs. So maybe her sister was not lying when she said her sister did not have an eating problem.

Ophra made sure she replayed that program when the twin was in rehab showing that her sister was lying. Actually, it's no ones business, but the girl twin that was not eating was sitting slouched over with her clothes hanging on her like she was a pole when she was on Ophra.
lipstick hiker
7:48:28 PM
3/29/05

"like she was a pole"
lipstick hiker
7:48:28 PM
3/29/05

Hey ! Hey ! tone down the racism a little please.
It is not a fair analogy either, most Poles eat very well.
Polish Pickles
Pierogis
All kinds of sausages

Now if you said she looked like an Ethiopian in 1985, or a Biafran in 1968

Okay j/k :-)
manuka
8:11:21 AM
3/30/05

Now that the Pope is on a feeding tube, I figured there'd be a lot more debate on this topic. Heck, they're keeping the Pope alive "artficially", but not Terri Shaivo.
Smiley Girl
8:13:49 AM
3/30/05

Yep SG, but just to keep it fair they will give the Pope 15 years on the tube before disconnecting.

I mean why should the Pope get any less?
manuka
8:18:24 AM
3/30/05

LOL, Manuaka!


Well, the Pope is still able to communicate with others, though he's obviously not able to do that in the same capacity he used to. My opinion is that Terri Shaivo can't communicate (at least from what I know of the facts) and I personally wouldn't want to be kept alive if I coudln't communicate with others.

I'll save my comments on teh Pope for another thread. :)
Smiley Girl
8:21:06 AM
3/30/05

LOL! Not being able to talk for Smiley would be WORSE than death! Thank goodness you're just so darn interesting. :P
Nigal
8:34:08 AM
3/30/05

Smiley, you will get reformed lurker fired up if you talk about the pope
Ewker
8:35:13 AM
3/30/05

And that's why I love you, Nigal! Always there to boost my ego!!



Ewker, I was raised Catholic, heck, my mother worked for the Catholic Church for 30+ years. He's not going to get any more fired up than I would, though I claim to be a Presbyterian now!
Smiley Girl
8:39:23 AM
3/30/05

“Jesus reminds us to rebuke one another with love.

That's what I tell my wife when I lovingly beat her!”
Oryx
5:21:32 AM
3/29/05


Anyone doubt this is Mutt still?
Phaedrus
8:42:10 AM
3/30/05

nevermind then, I didn't know you were Catholic.
Ewker
8:51:01 AM
3/30/05

Phady
Anyone doubt this is Mutt still?”
Phaedrus
9:42:10 AM
3/30/05


I don't think it is.


Mutt was very bright. Used cogent arguements. Backed his stuff up with facts.


Was an agnoistic. Certainly had no use for Christianity.


Oryx is some college kid from Ames. He seems unable to sustain a coherent, logical arguement. His relative youth shows through virtually all of his posts.


Unless Mutt is a very good actor . . .but I would find it hard to believe Mutt would have any use for O or his positions.


Put another way . . .Mutt was by far a better troll/P.I.T.A. than Oryx could ever hope to be.
lee
8:57:41 AM
3/30/05

Ewker practices voodoo!
Bison
9:07:13 AM
3/30/05

Who da hell’s the pope anyway. He’s a religious leader to be respected for sure but come on, he’s only a man. I do find it interesting how the church has gone from Jesus serving his disciples and washing their feet the modern day church. Service in the church today is from the bottom up, not the top down as it should be.
Nigal
9:16:28 AM
3/30/05

whodoo, youdoo
Ewker
9:18:08 AM
3/30/05

As I stated before, I'll save my comments on the Pope for another thread. Go ahead, Nigal, start one!!
Smiley Girl
9:22:44 AM
3/30/05

That might be a bit too much, even for me...



"What the...? These glasses don't help one bit!"
Nigal
9:29:10 AM
3/30/05

Smiley, why don't you start a controversial thread. That would be your first time..a virgin fuego thread by Smiley Girl
Ewker
9:31:43 AM
3/30/05

Feugo cherry?
Nigal
9:32:54 AM
3/30/05

NIGAL
OHHHHHHHHHH Nigal .. ..


Ohhhhh Nigal . .....


This is a very very very bad pun!!!!!!!




Service in the church today is from the bottom up. . . .”
Nigal



Dat's de way uh huh uh huh, dey like it uh huh uh huh.
lee
9:46:34 AM
3/30/05

Oh wow, I didn't mean it that way but if it tickles yer testies so be it. At least I didn't say "up the bottom". LOL!
Nigal
9:52:55 AM
3/30/05

Listening to Glen Beck ...

This is sick!

Michael would not allow an investigation into the broken bones in Terri's body. He blamed them on the hospital therapists, but would not allow an investigation. Didn't even sue the hospital ... didn't try to get anybody fired. Judge Greer upheld his desire for it not to be investigated ...

There is lots of doubt in this case you don't hear on ABC, etc ...
Sarge
10:23:54 AM
3/30/05

I heard Michael Savage the other week and he predicted that the husband would not allow an autopsy and want her cremated toot sweet.

I guess he nailed it...
Nigal
10:29:59 AM
3/30/05

That has nothing to do with it.

I heard Oprah predicted ..... whatever.
Sarge
10:30:58 AM
3/30/05

It was rhetorical post Sarge.
Nigal
10:33:45 AM
3/30/05

Good job. Anything that takes attention away from the fact that this woman is being pubically and "legally" murdered.
Sarge
10:35:52 AM
3/30/05

I can’t help but get the impression that this thread is more about Sarge getting attention than Terri.

Too bad Sarge, I ain’t biting today.
Nigal
10:37:59 AM
3/30/05

I heard Michael Savage the other week and he predicted that the husband would not allow an autopsy and want her cremated toot sweet.


I thought he requested an autopsy?
Treebeard
10:40:41 AM
3/30/05

I believe Nigal was making light of Savage's predictive powers, or rather, lack thereof.
Bison
10:42:12 AM
3/30/05

Thank you, Bison. I was just scanning and the context escaped me...
Treebeard
10:42:57 AM
3/30/05

Do you get that impression Nigal? That's nice. You're so knowledgeable.
Sarge
10:43:07 AM
3/30/05

language, borders, culture =)
Ewker
10:45:24 AM
3/30/05

Glen Beck . . .Commercial whore
Here in an excerpt from a round tabl ein which Beck participated. It was to do with the Iraq war


In a moment of candor he admitted that he wasn't making any attempt to be fair and balanced. That it was all about ratings, selling commericials and bringing in sponsor dollars.



Sarge -- he is riding the Terri Schiavo thing for the commercial value of it. He is making appeals to the emotional side of his audience hoping to build his listenerdom of chuckleheads.



To quote:

But Fox says that it's delivering fair and balanced news. Glen Beck, a conservative radio host, makes no such claim and questions those who do.

GLEN BECK: At least I have the honor and integrity to stand up and say you know what -- I'm doing this for ratings! I'm doing this to - so you will buy stuff on the commercials! That's why I show up to work every day! Otherwise, if I wasn't getting ratings, if I wasn't selling commercials, I got news for you -- the company would fire me! [ON ECHO MICROPHONE] "But they need to be fair and balanced." Bull crap! You're doing it for ratings.



Now Sarge ---

I don't blame the guy. And he IS being honest.


That's great as far as it goes. But for god's sake . . .don't quote this yahoo to us expecting that somehow we are going to believe or accept a single thing that comes out of his mouth.


He is a conservative Howard Stern . ..trying to keep you hooked. Tryin gto keep you listening.


Are you so naive that you don't understand that???
lee
10:45:34 AM
3/30/05

Sombody's got the right idea -

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/43506.htm
Bison
10:46:15 AM
3/30/05

There have been enough court hearings to determine that our great nation's laws are being upheld.

Sarge, why do you hate America so much?
Phaedrus
10:47:49 AM
3/30/05

lol@phaedrus
Ewker
10:48:24 AM
3/30/05

Beck has never claimed to be fair and balanced. He expresses his views which in this day and age are rare and controversial. He knows this is what brings in the money and sponsors. You could almost ay IT'S HIS JOB.

I like the guy. He's funny and he has good morals.
Nigal
10:48:30 AM
3/30/05

And Phaedrus goes for the juggular! LOL!
Nigal
10:49:46 AM
3/30/05

lee - In further context, the way he believes to get ratings is to talk about what he believes in. Has nothing to do with honesty and integrity, except to say, that's how he tries to get ratings. By keeping his integrity.

Your point is only half of the whole story.
last edited: 3/30/05 10:54:18 AM
Sarge
10:51:59 AM
3/30/05

Nigal - Why are you making this about Beck?
Sarge
10:52:50 AM
3/30/05

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