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This is the sort of thing one might expect from those freedom-hating Democrats (LOL), but whose name do I spy but the Republicans' own darling of the Senate: Doctor Bill!!

Isn't this the very thing those Protectors of the American Way warned us about??? (while they were fronting for the tobacco industry)

Can you imagine the rending of clothes, the gnashing of teeth (and general kvetching) Jesse Helms and Mitch McConnell must now be engaged in? Their nightmare of a Quarter Pounder Tax has come true... but at the hands of their buddy Bill??

Oh The Pain.




Press Release Of Senator Bill Frist, M.D.

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senators Bill Frist (R-TN), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) and Christopher Dodd (D-CT) today introduced comprehensive legislation aimed at reducing obesity, particularly among children and adolescents.

The "Improved Nutrition and Physical Activity Act", or “IMPACT,” recognizes significant problems associated with obesity including heart disease, diabetes and cancer and works to reduce those problems by encouraging better nutrition and more physical activity.

“This bill is about giving Americans the information necessary to make informed choices,” said Frist. “With rising rates of obesity among both juvenile and adult populations, it’s critical that we act to raise awareness of healthy behavior and the risk related to obesity. Children learn from example and can benefit from knowing the facts about how they can improve their own health and well-being today. Obesity is for the most part preventable. There is no single solution, but better information, improved nutrition and greater opportunities for physical activity will guarantee progress.”

"Obesity is our nation's fastest rising public health problem, and it's increasingly affecting every segment of the American population - particularly young people. As a nation, we can no longer afford to ignore the escalating costs associated with obesity and unhealthy lifestyles, such as physical inactivity and poor dietary habits. This legislation begins to tackle those serious problems by advancing proven and innovative strategies designed to get people moving, eating well and engaged in healthy lifestyles," Bingaman said. “We must act to stem this growing epidemic of physical inactivity and unhealthy eating. Failure to do so, I believe, would serve only to endanger the health of more and more of our children by exposing them to the often disastrous consequences of overweight and obesity,” said Dodd, Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Children and Families. “That is why I am pleased to join today with Senators Frist and Bingaman to introduce legislation that takes a measured and important first step toward addressing the deadly implications of obesity.” An estimated 61 percent of U.S. adults and 13 percent of children are overweight, and an estimated 300,000 deaths per year are associated with being overweight or obese. The prevalence of obesity is increasing among all age groups. There are twice the number of overweight children and three times the number of overweight adolescents as there were 30 years ago.

Being overweight or obese brings with it an increased risk for heart disease and cancer, the leading and second leading cause of death respectively. Being overweight or obese also brings with it an increased risk for diabetes and musculo-skeletal disorders, such as osteoarthritis. Given the many health risks associated with being overweight, a December 2001 report by the Surgeon General entitled, "A Call to Action to Prevent and Decrease Overweight and Obesity" lists the treatment and prevention of obesity as a top national priority.

To accomplish that goal, the senators' legislation would:

Authorize $10 million in fiscal year 2003 to help provide training for health professionals and health science students on identifying those at risk for overweight and obesity and the treatment and prevention of these conditions. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in fiscal year (FY) 2003-2007.
Authorize $40 million in FY 2003 to assist local communities in promoting good nutrition and increased levels of physical activity among their citizens. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in FY 2003-2007.
Authorize $40 million in FY 2003 to assist state departments of education and schools to develop curricula to help students learn to make healthy choices pertaining to nutrition and physical activity. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in FY 2003-2007.
Direct the Institutes of Medicine to look at the federal government food assistance programs to insure that they are a source for improved nutrition. Authorizes $750,000 in FY 2003 and 2004.
Authorize $125 million to assist CDC and state governments to provide information to the public on healthy eating and physical activity with an emphasis on youth. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in FY 2003-2007.
Authorize $40 million to assist clinics that serve minority populations that are disproportionately affected by weight disorders to implement obesity prevention and treatment programs. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in FY 2003-2007.
Ask the Department of Health and Human Services to summarize what research on overweight and obesity has revealed to date and to design a future research agenda.
Set up a foundation that would allow the USDA to conduct research on human nutrition so that government food programs can be more effective. Authorizes $500,000 in FY 2003 to help provide information to the public about the safety and effectiveness of popular weight reduction programs and diets. Such sums as may be necessary would be authorized in FY 2003-2007.

IMPACT has been referred to the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee. All three senators are members of that panel.
Tilt
9:48:53 PM
12/22/03

"I'm from the government...I'm here to help you."

Sadly, many legislators are elitists who view us as ignorant slobs that need to be educated on how to think...so we can become "enlightened" like them.
Phil
11:34:46 PM
12/22/03

According to recent studies, obesity related medical costs are near those of smoking. With the rise of all health care costs this type of thing is an inevitability (thats not too say I lke the idea). The top three diseases in the US are "lifestyle" diseases, Heart Disease,Lung Disease,Type 2 diabetes, all are avoidable with proper nutrtion and excercise.

BTW Tilt there was one R and two D's, if that changes your "anti-right" slant.
birch
4:42:50 AM
12/23/03

Nope. Not the tiniest bit.

This was the spectre raised by Right Wing tobbaco company shills. That there are Democrats supporting it fits right with the Republican party line. But to have one of the highest ranking Republicans extant as one of the original sponsors... That doesn't quite jive, does it?
Tilt
5:03:50 AM
12/23/03

Tilt, you refer to strat as an idealogue and you are doing the same thing here. Cherry Picking.

It is a stupid piece of legislation, a stupid piece of BI-PARTISAN legislation.
birch
5:10:38 AM
12/23/03

According to recent studies, obesity related medical costs are near those of smoking. With the rise of all health care costs this type of thing is an inevitability (thats not too say I lke the idea). The top three diseases in the US are "lifestyle" diseases, Heart Disease,Lung Disease,Type 2 diabetes, all are avoidable with proper nutrtion and excercise.

Very true birch. I'm not sure if this bill is THE answer, but I applaud efforts to do something about obesity. Unfortunately, for most it involves a drastic lifestyle change, and that's tough. People do need to become better educated about the risks of not being active and not eating right though. IMHO, I think a good way to do that is through the schools.
Artex
5:19:57 AM
12/23/03

"Authorize $10 million in fiscal year 2003 to help provide training for health professionals and health science students on identifying those at risk for overweight and obesity"


I'll do that for half price. It's pretty easy to spot a fat-ass.
viOliN
6:38:38 AM
12/23/03

Yes, but isn't it funny that this is The Very Thing those bozos held out as the height of folly just a few scant years ago... and here it is. That's my point: the sheer irony.

Am I defending this legislation? Nope! Am I defending Dodd, Bingaman or any Democrat who might ever vote for this? Nope!

I never said Strat was an ideologue. I questioned his sanity more than once, compared him to the 'hear no evil; see no evil..." chimp a half dozen times, but I never said he was an ideologue.

I do loathe the tobacco industry and their hired hands. They knew their product was killing people... at least as long as anyone else did and had paid liars like Helms and McConnell to protect their interests for decades.

I need to backtrack a little to see what Frist had to say (as a rising star in the party) when the head of the FDA under Clinton proposed having nicotine classified as the drug it is. The Republicans in Congress resembled a freshly kicked hill of fire ants.

Remember?
Tilt
6:49:44 AM
12/23/03

lol @ Violin!
tarabull
6:50:28 AM
12/23/03

.

BAN


all fast food establishments!
nowslimmer
7:28:45 AM
12/23/03

Dont be so fast to blame McDees for the tubby kiddies.... try that evil thing sitting in your living room.....When I was a just a boy we had to go OUT to play.
Lumberjack
7:34:49 AM
12/23/03

Its time to take a look at the commercial interests that are pushing their fat-ass-producing products.

I suggested years ago that advertisements for sugar/fat/starch junk and fast food be followed by public service warnings.

Commercial interests would resemble Tilt's freshly kicked hill of fire ants.
Tom Terrific
7:38:51 AM
12/23/03

I Am The Slime From Your Video....

LMAO
Tilt
7:40:37 AM
12/23/03

LJ hit the nail on the head. Fattening food has always been there, whether it's bought in a grocery store or licked up along a mile of fast food chains. When I was a kid, I was skinny as a rail. And not for a minute because of what I ate. Because I spent all my free time engaging in pick-up games of whatever sport may have been in season. The video age has much to do with this problem. I know for a fact that I eat more when I am idle. Think about when you are on the trail. Don't you find your appetite a bit suppressed when you jump pumped out ten miles. You may drink a little more, but that's another story...
Treebeard
7:44:33 AM
12/23/03

lol I didn't mean to say licked up. I meant picked up. Actually, it works either way!
Treebeard
7:45:32 AM
12/23/03

lol I didn't mean to say licked up. I meant picked up. Actually, it works either way!
Treebeard
7:45:32 AM
12/23/03

bad spelling day


jump=just
Treebeard
7:46:51 AM
12/23/03

Treebeard, I guess you weren't kidding about the dinking thing. You're cut off for the rest of the day.
lumberzac
7:49:17 AM
12/23/03

No, Zac! Just one more little nip. Pleaseeeee!!!

j/k
Treebeard
7:51:00 AM
12/23/03

Freud's First Slip.
Tilt
7:51:50 AM
12/23/03

In activity is the culprit. This past summer I went on a ten day backpacking trip. Most of my diet for those ten days was high calorie foods (junk food). I ate well every day and ended up loosing seven pounds over the course of the trip. Maybe everyone just needs to start hiking 10+ miles a day and there would be no problem with over weight people.
lumberzac
7:53:20 AM
12/23/03

Dinking???
People are not only ridin' the sofa while watching TV but are being hammered with advertisements urging them to eat all manner of crap all #&%!$in' day long.

Treebeard, you left your caramel candies in my car.......just say NO, man.......don't eat it!
Tom Terrific
7:57:21 AM
12/23/03

OK!
NO! Tom, you EAT IT!!!



Wait, I don't remember having caramel candies...
Treebeard
7:59:25 AM
12/23/03

I want to be one of the Fat Police!
"You're busted! All right fatty, up against the wall and spread 'em!"

er, maybe not...
aero
8:01:16 AM
12/23/03

There are Much better things to be hammered with.
Tilt
8:01:43 AM
12/23/03

Ya know, those little disc-shaped things that are white in the middle?

Maybe one of the kids left them, sorry >:^[
Tom Terrific
8:02:16 AM
12/23/03

lol @ Aero. Ok, then lay on your side with your hands behind your back!
Treebeard
8:02:49 AM
12/23/03

What is that 'white stuff' anyway? I think it's like the stuff in an Oreo... a mixture of sugar, lard, polysorbate 80 and white-out.
Tilt
8:06:39 AM
12/23/03

Put down the Twinkie! Slowly, so I can see your hands!
aero
8:07:46 AM
12/23/03

If you have to ask you don't want to know.
lumberzac
8:07:55 AM
12/23/03

Yum, whiteout!
aero
8:09:02 AM
12/23/03

Damn, I hate it when I agree with Tilt. It makes me feel dirty - like I just shook hands with a televangelist or something.
Mutt
8:09:29 AM
12/23/03

It probably makes a pretty good fire-starter.
Tilt
8:10:33 AM
12/23/03

So what’s the big problem here? In skimming the article I see nothing but trying to educate people on health issues. Is this so bad? I personally feel that physicals should be the standard when signing up for health insurance. If you are over weight you should pay more. If you smoke you should pay more. Face it, we are the fattest nation on earth and to think that the government thinks we are a bunch of ignorant slobs is incorrect. We are a nation of FAT ignorant slobs.

Had this been a democrat bill the libs would be marching it up and down the streets with pride. Birch is right…

Tilt = tiltdewd.
Nigal
8:19:48 AM
12/23/03

Raise the hell out of the gas tax and force people to walk and bicycle more!
aero
8:27:41 AM
12/23/03

This is NOT a new problem.

When the first American soldiers arrived in Europe for World War 1 in 1916, they were given the nickname 'Doughboys' because of their resemblance to the Pilsbury mascot.


"they called her Crisco, 'cos she was fat in the can"
manuka
8:28:21 AM
12/23/03

You dork, manuka! They were called "doughboys" from the buttons on their uniforms which resembled dumplings!
aero
8:35:10 AM
12/23/03

The Republican partisan misses the point. Again.
Tilt
8:38:18 AM
12/23/03

Well of course we do. If we don't agree with you it's out of ignorance.
Nigal
8:40:22 AM
12/23/03

Fat foods are a problem and cost this country tons of cash every year. I almost wanna say that maybe we should limit the amount of Fast Food joints in an area?

With regards to the kids, that's a parental additude change. Once that additude progresses, great strides could be made!
laqtis
8:45:34 AM
12/23/03

"I almost wanna say that maybe we should limit the amount of Fast Food joints in an area?"

I'm 100% against these dumba$$es that try and sue McD's because they got fat but on the other end we do control the amount of bad things in other foods and products. Is it so far fetched to have industry standards for fat content? Of course this is a bit on the loss of freedom side and in the end it is up to the individule to be smart enough to know what will kill you and what won't.

Gotta go...Rally's has Big Buferds 2 for $3 and they open in 10 minutes!
Nigal
8:49:42 AM
12/23/03

Well of course we do. If we don't agree with you it's out of ignorance.

LOL! Burn! It's funny because it's soooo true with him.
Mutt
8:51:17 AM
12/23/03

OK Aero, I will bite

link

"The Button Theory: At this writing, it has been impossible to confirm one assertion of one branch of doughboy theorists and it is the proposition on which their entire case sits. It is that U.S. infantrymen wore coats with unique, globular brass buttons. In one variation of this theory the buttons are said to reminiscent of the doughboy dumplings eaten by the soldiers and sailors of earlier days and which possibly had become part of American cuisine. In another variation, drawing additionally on the Baked Goods Theory, it is said that the product of the infantrymen's cooking efforts came to resemble the buttons on their uniforms.

Most adherents of this approach seem to base their argument on the uniforms of the Civil War period. Since this usage of doughboy predates the Civil War, these advocates have a timing problem. More research on the uniforms of the earlier war is needed; if it is discovered that such buttons were not part of the foot soldiers' uniform in the Mexican-American War the Button Theory would be effectively undermined. {As of February 2002 I have been contacted by a museum which displays military uniforms, informing me that US infantry uniforms of the period did, indeed, have globular buttons. I am awaiting confirming photos. But even if the claims about uniform buttons are validated, there is still a lack of primary evidence backing up this line of thinking."

Doesn't seem too confident on the button theory, but does predate WWI, so I guess fat has been around even longer.

You like your theory, I like mine.
manuka
9:02:37 AM
12/23/03



hey, you're right.
aero
9:07:48 AM
12/23/03

Here, this is better...

aero
9:11:46 AM
12/23/03

In our sue crazy society some parents have sued the playgrounds because their kid fell and got hurt. Then when the kids can't go to a playground anymore they sit home and pig out in front of the T.V. with fast food so the parents sue the fast food joints because the kids got fat. What happened to personal responsibility?
richb
12:18:22 PM
12/23/03

What, have people take responsiblity for there own actions? We can't have that.
lumberzac
12:23:14 PM
12/23/03

Here's a fat cop.

Nigal
12:26:15 PM
12/23/03

I see a fat red x
lumberzac
12:28:11 PM
12/23/03

Lay off the sauce dude.
Nigal
12:31:16 PM
12/23/03

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