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You have to lube them alot...and they seem to collect a lot of "deposits"
StickmanWalking
4:13:21 PM
12/11/06

I think you have to pull back the cover and give it a good reaming.
roseymonster
4:31:24 PM
12/11/06

Has anyone been keeping up on the Zumbo debacle? The power of the Internets is amazing...
Mutt
2:25:10 PM
2/22/07

What's the Zumbo debacle?
Nigal
2:30:50 PM
2/22/07

is it like the gumbo debacle?
crash bang
2:31:51 PM
2/22/07

Crash Bang, you poor dummy.
MarkO
2:32:34 PM
2/22/07

??????

"Hunting with Jim Zumbo" - the guy put in his blog that people who own ARs and AKs are terrorists. This caused a sh*tstorm in the "black-rifle" community, and their avalanche of email to his sponsors caused his sponsors to drop him, and he got fired basically. All this happened since Sunday evening.
Mutt
2:35:31 PM
2/22/07

Wow! He really stepped in it! I wonder if he'll go the Dixie Chick rout and claim to be a victim and make a movie called "Shut Up and Hunt"?
Nigal
2:38:09 PM
2/22/07

"claim to be a victim"?

im not saying they didnt milk the hell out of it, but they were getting death-threats, for fcks sake.
crash bang
2:42:04 PM
2/22/07

Apparently he made a comment that the AR-17 (or the slew of versions of it) were not needed in the HUNTING COMMUNITY....apparently he wrote this after a really hard day hunting out west.

Heck I have never been a big fan of semi auto weapons for hunting....seems to me if you can hose an area down...whats the skill compared to one shot one kill.

But I know people who swear by them. I have friends who hunt the really BIG mean stuff and you want a couple extra for insurance.

My problem comes to the weekend dweeb who goes out and lays down suppressive fire trying hit that deer.

Zumbo apparently made a comment calling them "terrorist weapons".
XL400236
2:42:19 PM
2/22/07

im not saying they didnt milk the hell out of it, but they were getting death-threats, for fcks sake.

I was speaking of their claims of being victimized for expressing themselves. Not victimized because of death threats.
Nigal
2:44:48 PM
2/22/07

whats the difference? the death threats were the result of expressing themselves
crash bang
2:47:36 PM
2/22/07

apparently he wrote this after a really hard day hunting out west. - XL

And that pissed off the black rifle guys even more. He offered a lame excuse and tried to pass it off as an apology.

Heck I have never been a big fan of semi auto weapons for hunting....seems to me if you can hose an area down...whats the skill compared to one shot one kill. - XL

That's the kind of attitude that has split the gun community. On one side you have the "Fudds" who don't see black rifles as "legitimate" hunting tools, another side that says "yes they sure as hell are", and another side that says "you're missing the point, it's about our 2nd amendment rights".

Now Zumbo's terrorist comment has been picked up by anti-gunners like the Brady Bunch (they put it on their myspace blog), and is being used as proof that hunters agree the 2nd is mostly about hunting.

Zumbo has been on Nuge's forum this afternoon: http://nugeboard.tednugent.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/286904.html
Mutt
2:50:27 PM
2/22/07

“whats the difference? the death threats were the result of expressing themselves”

But they were crying from the beginning before the death threats and not just because of the death threats.

Tomato. Tomoto. Have a great afternoon man. :)
Nigal
2:55:58 PM
2/22/07

By the way, everyone should be aware that a new Assault Weapons Ban has been introduced in the House. It's very much more comprehensive than the old ban:

(30) the term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:

`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

`(ii) AR-10;

`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR;

`(iv) AR70;

`(v) Calico Liberty;

`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;

`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;

`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;

`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;

`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

`(xi) M1 Carbine;

`(xii) Saiga;

`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;

`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;

`(xv) SLG 95;

`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;

`(xvii) Steyr AUG;

`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;

`(xix) Tavor;

`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or

`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) Calico M-110;

`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;

`(iii) Olympic Arms OA;

`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or

`(v) Uzi.

`(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) Armscor 30 BG;

`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;

`(iii) Striker 12; or

`(iv) Streetsweeper.
last edited: 2/22/07 2:58:21 PM
Mutt
2:56:18 PM
2/22/07

I would not think of going hunting without my M1A1. The optional flame thrower is da bomb for starting forest er, campfires on rainy days.

And I've never had bear problems in that thing, either.

The damn squirrels like to nest in the gun barrel, but we take care of that problem too.

Would not think of going hunting without it.
Geobeet
2:59:36 PM
2/22/07

"GeoFudd"
Mutt
3:00:25 PM
2/22/07

Zumbo has been on Nuge's forum this afternoon: http://nugeboard.tednugent.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/286904.html[/b]

Dang. Ya gotta feel bad for the guy in the fact that he has lost it all for no other reason than his own ignorance and careless words. At least he's being a man about it and owning his words rather than dismissing them.

if we was in Hollywood he could say he's going to get help from some ethnic community or entering rehab or shaving his head. LOL!
Nigal
3:01:17 PM
2/22/07

“"GeoFudd"”
Mutt


Stand in front of my M1A1 and say that!
Geobeet
3:02:21 PM
2/22/07

Ban Fire Ants...
it will be as effective.

my .02
SuperTroll
3:07:48 PM
2/22/07


There!
Geobeet
3:08:04 PM
2/22/07

How did you close the tag Geo? Just do /b in brackets?
Nigal
3:09:34 PM
2/22/07

Very interesting comments on that board.
Wounded Knee
3:11:18 PM
2/22/07

“it will be as effective.

my .02”
SuperTroll

I believe a .30 would trump that.
MarkO
3:14:27 PM
2/22/07

I guess the difference is I like what I like but really could care less if people want to carry something else.

Then there was the Famous Month Python sketch "Mosquito Hunters"
XL400236
3:30:15 PM
2/22/07

No not the street sweeper.... there goes my home defense.....
Lumberjack
3:49:55 PM
2/22/07

Grab all your big strong toys
off to the hills of Pakistan boys.
salebored
8:46:17 AM
2/23/07

The Government needs to have some fear that the people could revolt. If they take away our guns they no longer fear us and will just appoint Hillary as President.
Harman
10:22:48 AM
2/23/07

Guns yes, but the gov. is not who is buying their way into our lives.
salebored
11:45:42 AM
2/23/07

For once, there's been a good piece of firearms legislation introduced in the House. Time to do some supportive emails.

H.R. 1096: To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans
Mutt
9:07:45 AM
2/27/07

LOL..COOL...big question is this a "BALLOON TO DRAW SUPPORT" or a real shot? I hope its real....

Mutt the really cool thing we were hoping we would get when the Same Sex Marriage act was pushed was that they Libbies would say "Marriages approved in Massahumpit would be valid licenses throughout the US." Then we could challenge and get gun permits cleared US wide.
XL400236
9:14:22 AM
2/27/07

Interesting, I didn't know that was a strategy.
Mutt
9:20:17 AM
2/27/07

A lot of states made laws that better protected gun owner's rights from governmental seizures after the gun grab after Katrina hit in N.O.

I hope it goes through.
Nigal
2:17:37 PM
2/27/07

Guns ,gays and more WD-40.
uncliff
4:01:40 PM
2/27/07

xtroll, i double-dog dare you to actually discuss a controversial topic without referring to libbies, lefties, commies, bleeding hearts, dumbocrats, jimmuh, cleeeeeeeeenton, feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings, or world war 2
crash bang
8:24:38 PM
2/27/07

i double-dog dare Crash to quit his endless #&%!$ing about any conservative poster.
StoveStomper
8:27:46 PM
2/27/07

i triple dog stove to notice that i havent said squat on any fuego thread for many, many days now
crash bang
8:30:46 PM
2/27/07

you guys have such a huge presence on this board, but its all hot air, so im obligated to keep you honest from time to time. i would like to learn and hear actual viewpoints, not just "libbies this" and "bush that"

even if i dont always agree with him, i can at least respect the way mutt debates. he actually talks about the topic. same goes for nigal, even if he is more about being the funny guy than actual substance
crash bang
8:34:54 PM
2/27/07

Wha...? Me not serious? LOL! I simply do not give a rat's ass what others think anymore. If I take a subject serious enough to not make fun of it, then it's too lofty or mature for TT.
Nigal
8:40:40 PM
2/27/07

Bull#&%!$e.
StoveStomper
8:41:25 PM
2/27/07

sorry, british version gets censored, too
crash bang
8:43:22 PM
2/27/07

Years ago I tried to discuss things with the lefties. They lost that respect soon by their endless namecalling and slurs.
I now give them the level of discussion they earned.
StoveStomper
8:44:12 PM
2/27/07

My goodness. I do believe Stovey is channeling Buddha Bear's evil, opposite twin. This sounds exactly like something BB would say about the religious right.
Nigal
8:49:43 PM
2/27/07

just keep pouting, then.
crash bang
8:49:55 PM
2/27/07

widdle birdys gonna go poo poo poo on your lip
crash bang
8:50:40 PM
2/27/07

Wrong, I'm Vile's twin, except on the side of good, LOL.
StoveStomper
8:51:25 PM
2/27/07

Golf balls rolling looking for a hole
you guys should learn how to bowl.
salebored
9:13:57 PM
2/27/07

Guns cannot inherently be evil; they are an inanimate object. I want to have one. I don't want every idiot to have one. So some gun control is necessary. It's a given.

I do wish they wouldn't make these damn things so freaking wordy. I hate lawyers, they write like that.
Pamela
1:17:52 AM
2/28/07

You know crash, conservatives and THINKING people use historical reference to establish baselines and give a reference point. See without historical reference you have nothing concrete to build on. You can wander aimlessley and you are always right in your own mind. What you say is what you want the truth to be.

If you FEEEEEEEL it is okay for the Chief Executive to "mark his briefs" in the Oval Office and then lie to obstruct an American Citizen's right to a fair trial (that involves his personal actions and behavior).... As a THINKING person you reference previous ideas of what is wrong and right. (HMM....the last person who committed perjury for a similar case was a psychologist having a relationship with a 40 year old consenting adult male client...she got 10 years and permenantly lost her license...so that means)..but in YOUR case you can FEEEL "Jeeze he got a hummer from a fat star struck kid, and "hey" I would have lied...so lets let him slide."

Well Crack Bung, in order to play a game (called life you oughta look into it) you have ground rules. All I do is point out how previous successes were gained, and show the inherent hypocrisy in the Non THINKING people's attitudes.
XL400236
7:29:12 AM
2/28/07

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