Hey Bacpac

“Have a merry christmas.”

“Mmmmmmmm...he celebrates Kwanza.”

“I thought he was the grinch?”

“your a mean one Mr Grinch............”

“I wouldn't touch you with a 10 and a half foot leki poooole!”

“scorchy...not even to spear him?”

“Look, we all know Bacpac hates me and probably a few others on here but maybe he really is a nice guy? Innocent until proven wilty.”

“maybe it's cuz he hasn't spanked me around YET...but I kinda think the ole fart is funny.”

“I might have to take you up on that "spear chucking @ bacpac" contest.

Nuttin but luv”

“we'll have to wait. I'm sure he's out christmas caroling.”

“Yes, spreading goodwill to men.”

“ohhhh, geeeeeez, make your own joke. What a set-up, Phaedie. Who's gonna spike that baby for a kill shot??”

“No one. This is christmas, and we're all feeling charitable.

Happy Holidays, Liz!”

“Bacpac, if there is even an ounce of decency left in you, this is the place to show up and either confess or deny.

If there is anything I like less than despicable bastards, it is despicable cowards.”

“Well, somehow I don't think he is dead; and deer season is over; I am beginning to form an opinion.”

“He won't post here.”

“That is sort of how my opinion is leaning at this point, Phaed.

I really expected more from him.”

“So did I, actually!

I defended him, thinking that the person the other side was an imposter. It became fairly apparent that I was wrong.”

“If he did post here and deny it was him on the other site, do you really think anyone is going to believe him?”

“Yep. If he came here, saying the guy on the other site is some sort of jerk imposter, I'd believe him.”

“Same here. I would take his word for it.

Whatever else I might think, I just never took bacpac for a liar.”

“Yes, Bacpac may not be a liar, but he does have a history of opening his mouth, when perhaps it would have been kinder to keep it shut.”

“Well, I certainly never thought he would turn into a coward.”

“Dontcha think it's kind of weird that he hasn't posted here, only over there? If it really wasn't him dontcha think he'd be steppin' up to the plate here? It's too bad, I'm glad I missed what he wrote, however, I've gotten the gist of what he said.”

“Didn't Bacpac say he was leaving a little while back?”

“He did say he was changing identities, and that "some" of us would be able to spot him quickly.”

“YOU STUPID FREAKIN DICK MUNCHING CRACK BABIES!”

“Now, kleetn is ALWAYS reliable! ;-)”

“Ah, the Classics!”

“What a tangled web we have here. Maybe it is because I never took this place seriously but more probably, because a percentage of you are certifiable, it baffles me how people here can get so worked up. Trolls, witch hunts, threats, insults, this place has got it all.

Did he say it? He is a coward if he did, he is a coward if he didn't. What a bunch of nut jobs. Well I am here to set the record straight. The truth is I does not matter what I do, and I think kleety said it best.

YOU STUPID FREAKIN DICK MUNCHING CRACK BABIES!

I did not intend to return, but I could not resist one more poke at the lunatics.

Goodbye ....again.”

“dodger”

“He'd deny it if he hadn't said it.

He's a punk.”

“and I don't care - he's not worth the effort that it took to type these few words.”

“"Well I am here to set the record straight. The truth is I does not matter what I do, and I think kleety said it best......"


What a waste. It's hard to see a hero fall, even harder when they puss out. See you on the future TT MIA thread, punk.”

“stop wasting your breath. he's a waste of human life.”

“Haha! Ya'll just got worked! I'm surprised he didn't steal you wallets off the night stand on his way out the window. He gave ya guys just enough to keep ya all going for another week of slinging bile and venom not knowing for sure weather it was him or not.

Who gives a shlt?”

“as an american citizen we are intitled to an opinion....... ahhh who gives a #&%!$!”

“You guys are right, who really gives a #&%!$? He was a strange mother#&%!$er anyway.”

“bacpac is here...he's Miss Anne Thrope.”

“Remember your comments about AIDS, and how it isn't reported much these days? Check this story out.

http://www.news4jax.com/health/4206592/detail.html”

“February 4, 2004
Bush Budget Criticized for Cutting AIDS Funding

by Jennifer Flowers
Religion News Service

WASHINGTON -- Shrunken AIDS funding in President Bush's 2005 budget proposal released Monday (Feb. 2) dampened the spirits of Christian groups and aid organizations, who said he is not following through on his promise to combat the disease globally.

"We all heard (Bush) make a very powerful and passionate statement about global AIDS in last year's State of the Union, but this year he didn't say anything about AIDS," said the Rev. David Beckmann, president of Bread for the World, a grass-roots Christian anti-hunger lobby group. "Now that we see his budget, it's clear that he's not willing to make financial commitments that are in keeping with his promises of a year ago."

Bush's Global AIDS Initiative is accompanied by other multilateral programs to total $2.8 billion toward the fight against AIDS in Africa and the Caribbean.

Groups such as the National Association of Evangelicals pressured Bush last month to include in his budget proposal a $3.6 billion catch-up on his 2003 Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief that promised $15 billion over five years. The first installment last year was $2.4 billion.

The Rev. Richard Cizik, NAE vice president for governmental affairs, was among those urging the $3.6 billion figure.

"If the (Bush administration's) argument is that there isn't the capacity to spend that money, then let's spend money to build capacity in order to use that money," Cizik said. "I just know, for example, in the world of faith-based entities, there are simply thousands of faith-based organizations that are ready and willing and able to provide the best services possible and to meet government specifications for delivery of these services, and a lot of them are never going to be tapped."

Maureen Shea, director of the Episcopal Church's U.S. government relations office, said her denomination was particularly concerned about Bush's funding cutback for multilateral AIDS organizations such as the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, for which the president proposed $200 million, down $350 million from 2004.

"We have particular concerns about the Global Fund because once people (with HIV/AIDS) have started on treatment, you have to keep people on treatment or it won't work," Shea said.

Shea said the fight against HIV/AIDS is a global issue that should be tackled with multilateral programs like the Global Fund, which combines resources from several countries. "The piece that he's cutting, the Global Fund, is the one that serves the most number of countries," she said.

Njongonkulu Ndungane, Anglican archbishop of Cape Town, South Africa, and a steadfast ally of the Episcopal Church in the wake of its appointment of a gay bishop last summer, urged congregations in the denomination to become more involved in Africa's AIDS crisis in a recent trip to Washington.

Faith-based groups are pinning their hopes for increased AIDS funding on Congress. Beckmann said Bread for the World plans to send 150,000 letters to members of Congress urging them to rally around global poverty relief and AIDS spending in the fiscal 2005 appropriations.

In this year's spending bill, Congress increased Bush's proposed $2 billion to $2.4 billion.

Cizik praised Bush's push to give global AIDS funding to faith-based health care groups that promote abstinence education, which he called a "welcome change" from programs under the Clinton administration.

"I'm confident in the end that we're going to get the dollars that have been promised," Cizik said. "It's just that at this point in this budget cycle, we're not going to pull them out unless we get the Democrats to do it and if they do, I say God bless them."

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=3048”

“NATIONAL NEWS

Bush cuts AIDS prevention funds in ’06 budget
Abstinence programs would see $38 million boost

By LOU CHIBBARO JR.
Friday, February 11, 2005


The proposed 2006 budget that President Bush submitted to Congress this week calls for cutting funds for federal AIDS prevention and surveillance programs by $4 million, a development that drew sharp criticism from AIDS activists.

Activists said they were especially concerned that the proposed cuts came at the same time the president is calling for a $38 million increase in programs aimed at curtailing AIDS and teen pregnancy by promoting sexual abstinence until marriage.

“Programs which focus on abstinence as the sole means of preventing HIV/AIDS put our young people at tremendous risk,” said David Smith, an official with the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay political group that lobbies Congress on AIDS.

Smith and other gay and AIDS activists said abstinence-only programs, which ban discussion of safer-sex procedures such as condom use, are harmful to gay youth who can’t marry and often don’t have access to information about AIDS.

The Bush budget calls for a $10 million increase in funding for the AIDS Drug Assistance Program, or ADAP, which provides life-sustaining AIDS drugs to low income people who don’t have private health insurance. But the president’s budget calls for no additional funds for all other parts of the Ryan White CARE, the sweeping federal statute that created ADAP and other programs to provide care and treatment to low-income people with HIV and AIDS.


Flat funding is a cut
Activists said the proposed “flat funding” of Ryan White programs is equivalent to a cut in funds because of rising costs in medical care and the growing number of people with HIV and AIDS in the United States.

The president’s call for cutting the Medicaid program by an average of $4.5 billion a year over the next decade will create even more hardship for low-income people with HIV, activists said. Medicaid serves as the single largest provider of medical care to people with AIDS in the U.S.

Although the president mentioned how AIDS has hit minority communities the hardest in his Sate of the Union speech, he proposed no additional funding for the government’s Minority AIDS Initiative, a program that targets African Americans and other communities of color for AIDS prevention and treatment efforts.

The budget submitted to Congress by Bush also proposes a $14 million cut in the Housing Opportunities for People With AIDS, or HOPWA, program. The program provides housing subsidies for low-income people with HIV or AIDS.

In his budget message to Congress, Bush said he was initiating a 1 percent cut in spending on discretionary domestic programs in an effort to reduce the federal budget deficit by one-half by 2009.

“It meets our nation’s essential needs,” he said.

A statement released by the White House notes that the president’s budget calls for spending more than $17 billion for domestic AIDS “treatment, prevention, and research, including almost $21 million for Ryan White programs and its comprehensive approach to address the health needs of persons living with HIV/AIDS.”

The White House statement stressed that the 2006 budget would continue to fund Bush’s $15 billion global AIDS relief program, which calls for spending that amount over a five-year period.

“The president’s 2006 budget proposal supports the status quo, but what is really necessary at this juncture is an infusion of cash similar to what we saw with the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief: real money and swift action,” the national AIDS advocacy group AIDS Action said in a statement.

Christopher Labonte, HRC’s legislative director, said HRC would join gay and AIDS groups to call on Congress to add more funds to the AIDS programs that Bush wants to cut. Labonte said HRC was hopeful that Congress would at least restore the cuts Bush is proposing for AIDS prevention programs run by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.

“We have to be clear that the president’s message of compassion about AIDS in his State of the Union address was not reflected in his budget,” Labonte said.

Gay Republican activist Carl Schmid, who lobbies Congress on behalf of the AIDS Institute, a national group based in Florida, said the group was disappointed in the president’s funding proposals on AIDS.

“They say they want to decrease the number of infections, but they are decreasing the funding on prevention,” Schmid said. “We obviously need more money in prevention.”

http://www.washblade.com/2005/2-11/news/national/cutsaids.cfm”

“It's about time...”

“Nazi.

Pope Rejects Condoms As a Counter to AIDS

By Daniel Williams

ROME, Jan. 22 -- After several days of unusual public debate among senior figures in the Roman Catholic Church, Pope John Paul II on Saturday reaffirmed church teaching that urges abstinence and marital fidelity to stop the spread of AIDS and forbids condoms.

"The Holy See . . . considers that it is necessary above all to combat this disease in a responsible way by increasing prevention, notably through education about respect of the sacred value of life and formation of the correct practice of sexuality, which presupposes chastity and fidelity."

In the Vatican's teaching, phrases such as "sacred value of life" and "correct practice of sexuality" generally preclude contraception.

His words followed a week in which a high official of Spain's Bishops Conference said there was "a place" for condoms in AIDS prevention, but then was overruled by the full Bishops Conference, and other leaders weighed in to suggest publicly that a policy change might be appropriate.

In recent days, the pope has also stressed the role of Catholic health workers in tending to the AIDS-stricken. "At my request, the church has mobilized in favor of the victims and especially in order to assure access to help and the necessary medical care through a number of treatment centers," he said. He was referring to the Holy See's Good Samaritan Foundation, established last year to coordinate funds and organizations to help AIDS victims.

The Vatican has depicted contraception as part of an attack on the "culture of life" because it blocks the creation of children. On Saturday, John Paul II also repeated the Vatican's condemnation of euthanasia, which the Netherlands has legalized and which in the pontiff's view is an example of the "culture of death."

"The Holy See has made known its clear position and invites Catholics in the Netherlands always to show their absolute respect for human life, from conception to natural death," the pope said in the statement.

Pope Paul VI banned the use of contraception 37 years ago, and at that time the issue was almost entirely birth control. Ever since, high church officials have considered the question largely to be closed. But the AIDS pandemic has led to calls from some corners of the global church for authorizing at least one form of contraception -- condoms -- as a means of preventing HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, from spreading.

Two cardinals in Europe this week separately spoke of a hypothetical situation in which use of a condom might be justified: when a woman must have sex with someone who is infected with HIV and therefore must protect herself.

And in Mexico City, a bishop said at a news conference Friday that condom use could be a "lesser evil" if employed to prevent AIDS. "If someone is incapable of controlling their instincts . . . then they should do whatever is necessary in order not to infect others," said Felipe Arizmendi, bishop of San Cristobal de las Casas, in far southern Mexico.

The comments followed months of ferment in the church over how to approach AIDS prevention. Last year, the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development (CAFOD) published a paper urging a range of methods to fight AIDS.

"For many in Africa and Asia, sex is often the only commodity people have to exchange for food, school fees, exam results, employment or survival itself in situations of violence," the paper said. "Any strategy that enables a person to move from a higher-risk towards the lower end of the continuum, CAFOD believes, is a valid risk reduction strategy."

Vatican officials have said that in the field some individual priests or health care workers might see fit to counsel use of condoms in particular cases. But the officials emphasized that such instances did not represent a change in teaching.

"The problem is that anytime we try to give a nuanced response, we see headlines that say, 'Vatican approves condoms.' The issue is more complicated than that," Monsignor Angel Rodriguez Luno, a professor of moral theology at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross, said on Friday. "From a moral point of view, we cannot condone contraception. We cannot tell a classroom of 16-year-olds they should use condoms.

"But if we are dealing with someone or a situation in which clearly persons are going to act in harmful ways, say, a prostitute who is going to continue her activities, then one might say, 'Stop. But if you are not going to, at least do this,' " said Luno, who is an adviser to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a Vatican department charged with safeguarding orthodoxy.

One possible avenue for a new condom policy would be a "lesser-of-two-evils" approach. In this regard, condoms could be approved as a means of reducing the instance of danger or sin in cases where someone is bent on having extramarital sex or sex with a spouse while infected with HIV.

Rodriguez Luno -- without endorsing a new policy -- placed the issue in the context of the Ten Commandments. Sex outside of marriage already breaks the Sixth Commandment, which forbids adultery, he said. "Infecting someone with AIDS would also mean sinning against the Fifth Commandment -- you shall not kill," he said. "Condoms would diminish that danger."”

“Google AIDS Washington Post. Try it with other "real" newspapers. ;)”

“Obviously the big city liberal press is concerned about AIDS.....

Take that back. The Washington Times seems to report on it also.

Who's not reporting on it?
last edited: 2/17/05 4:47:21 PM”

“"The Vatican has depicted contraception as part of an attack on the "culture of life" because it blocks the creation of children"

yea, because we need more children. 6 billion ppl on this already over-worked planet isnt enough. the world population doubles every 40 years and he wants more children. we're screwd”

“And yet he doesn't have any himself. I think if the pope had a couple of rugrats running under his feet all day he'd reverse that rule toot sweet.”

“I did not see any data in your article about who is getting infected? I am pretty sure it is not heterosexual caucasians.”