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tent for a beginnerView Messagestent for a beginner “I was wondering if anybody knew of a freestanding backpacking tent around 100 dollars that also had a vestibule. Also, it would have to be lightweight.” 10:39:42 PM 1/17/04 “that depends on what you consider lightweight” 10:46:34 PM 1/17/04 “around what weight are you looking for? opie and i have the kelty zen and campmor has it on sale right now because they are discontinuing the product. check it out Kelty Zen its not freestanding but we are pleased with it.” 10:49:40 PM 1/17/04 “also are you looking for a one or two person tent?” 10:51:26 PM 1/17/04 “the zen is a 2 person so if you are looking for a one person it will be too big” 10:51:51 PM 1/17/04 10:57:06 PM 1/17/04 “I would like one under 5 pounds, 2 person” 10:59:12 PM 1/17/04 “under 5 pounds, 2 person, 100 dollars, AND a vestibule? youre gonna have to sacrifice something, like heat, so if you dont mind that, get the henry shires tarpent” 11:01:52 PM 1/17/04 “the zen is 4 lbs 9 oz, 2 person, has a vestibule and is 109.00.. its just not freestanding” 11:03:22 PM 1/17/04 “oops nevermind. theyre more than i remembered. i dont know why i was thinking they were that cheap. the north face pebble is two man, 3 season, freestanding, and around 100 dollars. ill have to check about the vestibule” 11:05:24 PM 1/17/04 “oh, and its a little more than five pounds. its seven” 11:06:13 PM 1/17/04 “ok thanks for looking for me” 11:08:49 PM 1/17/04 “yep. vestibule. 10 square feet. the tent is freestanding. rainfly has to be staked out, tho. are there any that dont?” 11:10:54 PM 1/17/04 “i have one. i love it, but i only used it once, cuz right after i got it, i got one i love even more (hilleberg akto). the pebble is insanely easy to set-up, while the akto is a pain if youre in a hurry or dont have patience, however.” 11:13:35 PM 1/17/04 “thanx a lot, i will definitely consider that tent” 11:15:53 PM 1/17/04 “well shiver me timbers, im remembering everything incorrectly tonite. the pebble IS under five pounds. its 4 pounds 7 ounces” 11:19:17 PM 1/17/04 “Check out Cabela's XPG 1 and 2 tent. It's just what you are looking for and in that price range.” 5:55:26 AM 1/18/04 “ The Pebble on sale for $90.00 It's tough with the stipulations you've requested, but the Pebble on sale is a good bet. There are other inexpensive tents out there, but not many that are freestanding, with a vestibule and under $100. Then again, what you want is available so there you go...” 6:27:13 AM 1/18/04 “ The North Face Rock 22 is also on sale and is more roomy with easier ingress/egress but a little heavier. Still a good deal though.” 6:34:11 AM 1/18/04 “I was going to recomend the Rock 22. We have one and love it. Holds both of us, and we can put our gear at the foot of the tent. There is enough room to "comfortably" get dressed in it, though you can not stand in it. Lots of screen, so condensation is not an issue. Basically, it replaced to tents we had. It was as light as my small tent, and as roomy as my big tent. Very reasonbly priced also. I have quoted another on this board many times: Price, lightweight, quality; choose two of these features, you won't get all three. But with htis tent, you come pretty close to all three. Bottom line: It's a good tent.” 8:00:01 AM 1/18/04 “Go to www.gearfinder.com. Put in your required options. Identify tents that fit your needs. Post questions about specific gear.” 2:54:12 PM 1/18/04 “Hey nobody has accused this newbie of being a troll yet...wheres the guantlet?” 2:56:12 PM 1/18/04 Sorry, been hiking.... “TROLL!!!” 3:46:15 PM 1/18/04 “Trolls don't post on the weekends. Bored, unproductive, regulars post to troll accounts during normal working hours. Duh!” 3:51:56 PM 1/18/04 stormbringer “I have the hilleberg akto. I don't find it that difficult to set up. The first time maybe. The pitching instructions were worthless. But anyway, definately my favorite tent.” 4:23:55 PM 1/18/04 “case in point...” 4:24:53 PM 1/18/04 “The Akto is an excellent tent. If you find one for $100. Email everyone you know. Including me.” 4:30:30 PM 1/18/04 “actually, when hilleberg had their mad clearance, selling the akto for $100 I did email everyone...with a published e-mail addy. Sorry you missed out :P” 4:47:21 PM 1/18/04 “Yeah, I guess I missed that. Anyone else see the Akto for $100?” 5:08:52 PM 1/18/04 “not difficult, just a pain if youre in a hurry or impatient. and im often impatient. subtle difference” 5:19:08 PM 1/18/04 “Where is that tent for $100???? 8o” 5:20:26 PM 1/18/04 “You didn't get the email either? Gosh darn :(” 5:23:54 PM 1/18/04 hey CMB “thanks for the backup support....buddy :p” 5:28:10 PM 1/18/04 “hilleberg akto for 100 bucks? musta been ripped and gashed to hell” 5:31:00 PM 1/18/04 What a loser “not difficult, just a pain if youre in a hurry or impatient. and im often impatient. subtle difference” 5:36:12 PM 1/18/04 “sure...leave me floundering.” 5:38:57 PM 1/18/04 “My Akto is right around 2 (if not a little less) pounds for most trips. This last trip, I pitched wrong and had real bad ice build up/condensation inside, but it proved to be nothing that I couldn't play through. I really do go back and fourth about this tent. Some trips, I love it some, it's a hassel, mostly because of user error. I have now seen it in almost every condition that I could think of.....locally that is.....” 5:41:13 PM 1/18/04 Ivy “You lied. No one wants to defend that.” 5:41:17 PM 1/18/04 lied? “that's such a harsh word. Excuse me while I go ponder this in the corner.” 5:44:33 PM 1/18/04 “It is a harsh word. You are a liar. Now everone knows. Harsh.” 5:55:11 PM 1/18/04 “my lip is quivering. boohoo” 5:59:43 PM 1/18/04 “Grow up.” 6:36:04 PM 1/18/04 “stop...nope...you can't butter me up now.” 6:49:10 PM 1/18/04 “bacpac is just bummed you wouldn't pitch his tent for him, ivy. Pay him no mind.” 7:15:51 PM 1/18/04 “I looked all over the web and that tent is nowhere to find that tent for $100. 8)” 8:08:22 PM 1/18/04 “LMAO” 8:10:51 PM 1/18/04 “I am seeing you laugh as I type! 8)” 8:12:03 PM 1/18/04 “Ivygal - you trolling again? :)” 8:18:04 PM 1/18/04 hey tty1 “how ya doing? Nope, not the troll anymore. Haven't ya heard...I'm the liar :-)” 8:20:54 PM 1/18/04 “where did you get that zen weight...it's closer to the high 3# range or low 4#...also you can get them for under 100 bucks now. I'm looking at getting a new henry shires tarptent” 8:45:08 PM 1/18/04
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