Kerry/Edwards 2004

“Bobbing for presidents?”

“BOB as in battery operated boyfriend? Dang, they're replacing us at every level!”

“LOL Tilt! You just killed the thread- we're all speechless!”

“Another sinister leftist commie pinko socialist left wing bleeding heart plot.”

“I thought we already had a dill doo in office?


I'm sorry, it had to be done.....”

“Kerry/Edwards gets my vote.

If that span of satan gets re-elected.....then I will wish very hard for certain unpleasant activities to take place involving great discomfort to the sphincter of the man with the squinty eyes and texan twang”

“Quite honestly, I've never decided this early in an election cycle about who would get my vote before now.

I guess that makes me a pinko liberal bleeding heart weenie fag socialist marxist communist.

Hmm... If Only I had known all that in time to vote for Dukakis...”

“Ah, Phead - you forgot bass turd.



Keery on!”

“Yeah, minds were made up on this one before the primaries were settled. A-B-B!”

“oops! I guess that should've been


BOP
For President
** 2004 **”

“In the State of Georgia, we refer to him as Zig Zag Zell, crawfish, flip flopper, and S.O.B.”

“"It's a natural human instinct to band together with those who share your goals and values to acheive those goals."
Bison
11:19:51 AM
07/30/04

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't native americans used to drive bison, who instinctively followed each other in a herd, over cliffs to kill them?

I guess this is what happens when you follow GWB, and now your namesake makes sense. :)”

“Ouch, that must have hurt!”

“Bison obviously missed Barack Obama's speech the other night.”

“Man, there's some wheel spining going on the tube tonight.

It's like the light was turned on and the cockroaches freaked out.”

“Barack Obama kicked all forms of ass, LOL”

“The Extinction of the Bison
""It's a natural human instinct to band together with those who share your goals and values to acheive those goals."
Bison
11:19:51 AM
07/30/04

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't native americans used to drive bison, who instinctively followed each other in a herd, over cliffs to kill them?

I guess this is what happens when you follow GWB, and now your namesake makes sense. :)"
Buddha Bear
04:07:50 PM
07/30/04

Yet another example of the Kerry herd's express disavowal of reality.

BTW humans are a social species, the behavior I describe is a social behavior, not a herd behavior. But I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.”

“Well, if you look in the backround of Bushes crowd today was all oooollllldddddd folks.

Reaching out to the base, are we?

Seems as though he might be too liberal for even them.

Yep, we're turning the corner, corner on the biggest defict for a budget ever.

We're getting close to 1,000 killed in Iraq, with no end in sight.


Ridge is quiting.

Powell is done at the end of this term.

We already lost the Sec. of Tres.


We already lost the Sec. of the CIA.




Do we see a cycle?


Why, yes we do.”

“I love all the bickering we do just to convince people the person we've chose to run the country into the ground is better than their choice. I think I'm taking a cue from Ralph Nader and writing "No confidence" on my ballot. Either that or I'm going to break the legs off this new electronic voting machine they got and start beating everyone over the head.”

“You mean the same Ralph Nader that closed his Philly campaign office and stiffed the homeless people he had hired to collect signatures to get on the ballot.

He's a great guy to listen to.”

“So, the newspaper reported these "homeless" people were putting fake signatures on the petitions so they could get more money. When they showed up to get paid the signatures had to be verified first. When people decided this wasn't happening fast enough for them, or maybe they didn't like being called out, they caused a fuss and the police had to be called to cool things off. Of course, the campaign still has every intention of paying what was promised and even stated as much when speaking to the media.

Didn't anybody ever teach you that omission is still a lie?”

“"Didn't anybody ever teach you that omission is still a lie?"

That depends on what the exact definition of “IS” is.”

“There was a Young Republican on campus last week hustlin' for Ralph Nader.”

“Good point, MarkO.

I think it is really telling when one party, such as the Repubs, have to use a candidate like Nader to even have a chance to beat Kerry. It's like running two Presidental candidates against one. With this in mind, it becomes crystal clear that the Repubs are very scared about loosing this election, so scared in fact that they'll get down to divide and conquer tactics. It's just too bad that Narder couldn't bite him in the ass and make them pay for it.

And this is one point I'd like to hear about from the Naderites:

What is the feeling amoung y'all that you have Bush II pushing yer compaign? Does this fit into your message and the feeling of the message? Do y'all even relize that Bush is funding your campaign? How about the fact that you have the right using you?”

“The Repubs are afraid that once out of office an honest Justice Department could climb up their asses.

And they owe the business class for all the graft.”

“The petitions are being filed today, as is the challenge. This sounds sufficiently dubious that the challenge may carry.”

“That my by, you guys, but I don;t know if I would feel comfortable supporting a candidate that was basically selling out to the Bush II side of the aisle. Is this really a way to make a difference?

Please, don't get me wrong, you can vote any way you want to (main point is VOTE!), I just would like some insight into this line of thinking from the Naderites, as I have very little information from his side this time around. Last time, I thought he was running as more of a liberal thinker and I must have missed the point at which he became conservative.”

“A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, which is why the Republicans are working for Nader (that was a big surprise, wasn't it).”

“"A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, which is why the Republicans are working for Nader (that was a big surprise, wasn't it)."

You might be simply mistaken here Geo because Nader’s official strategy is to vote Nader if it looks like the democrats will win. If it is close then they are urged to vote democrat. By doing this, the lesser of two evils wins (in Naderite’s eyes at least) and it still sends the message to both parties that there is a block of voters that are displeased with both parties. It also sends a message to the democrats that there is a block of voters that wishes the party to come back to it’s roots.

To say the Nader campaign is a shill of the republican party is just silly. They would rather reach those who are straddling the fence than to simply assume that a vote for Nader is a vote against sKerry. Jugears showed this in the past to not be true.”

“Money. Your candidate has to pull 5% or more of the vote in an election to qualify for matching funds for the next election, some of these parties that support Nader want to make sure they have that money next time around so that they can build a true alternative party. Although that was their thinking last time and they didn't quite get there.”

“Well, it also means that the Republican resources are going toward proping up Nader as well, instead of being invested within the party.

I would've loved to have been a fly on the wall during the cost/benifit analysis meeting of this idea.

I wonder at what point the Right will have to pull resources back home to defend their boy. I know when, when the polls start shifting toward Kerry, you'll see the Right freak and create more anti- Bush II, pro-Kerry revenge votes.

I just really can't believe that these guys think that this is going to work out for them. It might show short term benifits, but in the long run, once the Naderites catch on, you're going to see a huge back lash. The most troubling thing is that Nader himself hasn't come out to his own party and explained the reason he is running as a conmservative.

Hmmmm, looks like it's the voters who really believe in Nader will be left in the middle of this political football game and left holding the bag, as they will be pointed to for each sides failure.

Stay tuned....”

“Were you this irate when the Democrats were using Perot to siphon of Republican votes? Tell me how that was different?”

“It's always differnt Noprob because conservatives are evil and liberals are good. Hypocrisy is only hypocritical if it works against your agenda.”

“Perot siphoned votes from both parties.”

“Oh, I'll tell you the big difference, NP.

Perot ran with his own money, their was no investment from the right into his campaign. What happened was not planned, but the left took it.

Seeing this, it has now become a tactic. When it happened in reverse to the Dems, the Repubs now see the opp to try and catch lighting in a bottle twice. This still doesn't take away from teh fact that Gore didn't have a string enough platform to energize the swings to his side, however. It was because of this fact alone that a little upset in the vote would spill over to Bush II sides favor.

Bison - You do bring up a very good point; however don't discount that fact that even with matching funds, a third party counting on this pittlelance for a main source of funding is not a good idea. You have to have the biggies play at you party in order to generate enough funds to compete. That will never happen, as long as the biggies have their hands in the pockets of the tow major parties.

Trust me, if any of these biggies thought another party would have a shot, they would invest. This is why Nader will never be a strong player in this game, they people he needs money from, are the same people he's pissed off in the past through his actions.

Wouldn't you thinkn that the biggies would love to get a true puppet of their own in their? Jeepers, just the pay off from the spoils system alone would be too great of a factor to keep them out. Instead, they take what they can get with the two majors.

But you just wait. They'll be a point in time wherre the niggies will by pass the parties and just start influance the voters directly. Now that will be a huge impact on the American government if this should ever come to pass.”

“Oh, I'll tell you the big difference, NP.

Perot ran with his own money, their was no investment from the right into his campaign. What happened was not planned, but the left took it.

Seeing this, it has now become a tactic. When it happened in reverse to the Dems, the Repubs now see the opp to try and catch lighting in a bottle twice. This still doesn't take away from teh fact that Gore didn't have a string enough platform to energize the swings to his side, however. It was because of this fact alone that a little upset in the vote would spill over to Bush II sides favor.

Bison - You do bring up a very good point; however don't discount that fact that even with matching funds, a third party counting on this pittlelance for a main source of funding is not a good idea. You have to have the biggies play at you party in order to generate enough funds to compete. That will never happen, as long as the biggies have their hands in the pockets of the tow major parties.

Trust me, if any of these biggies thought another party would have a shot, they would invest. This is why Nader will never be a strong player in this game, they people he needs money from, are the same people he's pissed off in the past through his actions.

Wouldn't you thinkn that the biggies would love to get a true puppet of their own in their? Jeepers, just the pay off from the spoils system alone would be too great of a factor to keep them out. Instead, they take what they can get with the two majors.

But you just wait. They'll be a point in time wherre the biggies will by pass the parties and just start influance the voters directly. Now that will be a huge impact on the American government if this should ever come to pass.”

“Cripes!

Talk about a writing mistake -

the word "niggies", should be replaced with the would "biggies".

Deepest apologises, everyone....!”

“Geo is correct. I was a deep hearted Republican and Bush I did not get my vote. Perot brought the unlikley group of left and right people together, not to mention the fact that he drew from the hardcore ends from both sides. Did you ever go to a Perot rally?

Tree huggers and bible thumpers, coming together to kick some ass. It was truly a wild thing to see.”

“Laq, In other words if it helps your guy, it's good. If it hurts your guy, it's bad and must be stopped.

That's how the left always thinks.”

“Ah, no. You asked for an explianation and I gave it.

I could come back and say it's typical of the right to twist obivous information into their propaganda, but I won't....or maybe it just did, oh well.....!

After re-reading my post, I don't see anything where I said the above statement. I would suggest maybe re-reading it and leave you obvious bias out of your analysis. If not it comes accross as though you have no reading comprehenition skills, otherwise.

I would kindly suggest that you start thinking out of your box and concider that fact that false dichotomy is no longer a proper tactic nowadays. It's a rut and a crutch that only makes one look very uninformed. To continue would be endorse the Jerry Springer way of doing business.”

“You can find what your looking for on dictonary.com, NoProb....”

“That's how the left always thinks

That's how *wingnuts* always think, and there's plenty of wingnuts on Trail Talk.”

“"I know when, when the polls start shifting toward Kerry, you'll see the Right freak and create more anti- Bush II, pro-Kerry revenge votes."

laqtis
09:22:43 AM
08/02/04

Please keep your eyes off of the new gallup poll Laqtis, I don't want you to faint, I'd like to ease you out of your fantasies slowly.”

“Polls that do not show Kerry/Edwards ahead are not credible and should not be quoted.”

“ha ha :)”

“I don't really believe in the pol numbers at the monment. I do know from just reading websites that Kerry hasn't experianced the push they would have wanted coming out of the Convention. I think a better indication of where we stand will come after the Repub convention. After that, both sides have offered their respective platforms and we'll be off and running.

The other reasonI don't get into polls at this point - example. Du cock ass had a double digit lead right out of the convention and fell completly on his ass in the election. No wonder his wife started drinking rubbing alchol after that faux pax.

I offer the same amount of caution to you. Let's talk polls within a month or so of the election. I'll bet you it's still very close, which is telling on both sides.

The closness of the polls sez as much about Kerry and it does Bush. I could argue that Bush shouldn't even be in this position, as it shows that there are still alot of people behind him, but like I said, let's save that for when we get closer to the election.”

“boy, can I write today or what?!!

Sorry, I'm trying to knock out a paper on distributive, redistributive and regulatory domestic policy, while farting around here.

This: ...as it shows that there are still alot of people behind him..."

Should read :..."as it shows that there are still alot of people NOT behind him..."

Sorry 'bout that....”

“Nothing seems to get the polls to swing in sKerry’s favor. He gets a good-looking, young running mate…nothing. He wraps up the convention…nothing. I think the real time things could change is during the debates. If the republicans are smart they will shred him with his own record. Then again, the republicans have been playing like a bunch of pussies who don’t seem to want to win.”