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Alas poor Democrats
Watching with quiet amusement the threads that tout Clark, Edwards, Dean for President.

Noting the lack of enthusiasm for who you are actually going to get on the ticket,.. Kerry.

Kerry seems to be the least popular choice for all the Bush haters, so if you the committed see him as the last choice, how do you expect the larger population to embrace him?

Realizing that the incumbent does have a significant advantage understand that Al Gore would be President today if Clinton had resigned 2-3 months before the end of his term leaving Al in the oval office.

Ending with a quote from the late Roy Rodgers "I am a member of no organized party, I am a Democrat"
manuka
8:21:46 AM
2/11/04

The big question is...2 layer GoreTex or three?
Nigal
8:24:28 AM
2/11/04

That depends on the application.
lumberzac
8:25:28 AM
2/11/04

Manuka!

That's the way these things always work. There was a ton of enthusiasm for McCain during the last Republican cycle, but Bush was the more moderate, establishment choice.

Kerry has not really needed to play his cards yet. He had enough organization and strategy to get the nomination. I'd expect him to run centrist/conservative in the fall.
reformed lurker
8:30:34 AM
2/11/04

What!?! Another Poli thread? Don't you guys ever learn? I'm ashamed.
laqtis
8:55:24 AM
2/11/04

That was Will Rogers Manuka, not Roy Rogers. Roy Rogers was a singing cowboy. Will Rogers was a cowboy humorist.

Will Rogers took on both parties with grace and good humor.

Another Will Rogers quote (Gist):

Everytime Congress makes a law, it's a joke. And evertime Congress makes a joke, it's a law.
Geobeet
8:59:48 AM
2/11/04

It seems to me that McCain didn't get beat by Bush because he was less moderate. As I recall, Bush used his financial superiority to paint an unflattering picture of McCain, pointing out his temper and volatility for one.
When you have a weak positive, undermine the opposition with negatives.
Dunadan
9:01:34 AM
2/11/04

"....an unflattering picture of McCain, pointing out his temper and volatility for one."

That's two
MarkO
9:16:47 AM
2/11/04

It is a little addicting, Q, especially when its not always about desultory discussion on how crappy Bush is.


What do you think about Dean going 3rd party? or Nader get into the mix? Are they wise enough to sit this one out for the benefit of the Dem party?

Aren't there any Republocrats? Somebody who emcompasses the best of both parties out there.
Briar Rabbit
9:17:53 AM
2/11/04

The Greens have already stated that they will stay out of the race this time in order to get a favorable candidate elected. So, you won't be seeing Nader. I doubt if Dean will go third party. It would be more likely that he gets a post in the new administration.
Dunadan
9:24:31 AM
2/11/04

What about this guy running in the Republican primaries - Bill Wyatt. He made a pretty good showing in New Hampshire. Perhaps he'll run as a third party party candidate and split the Republican ticket.
Violin
9:46:50 AM
2/11/04

Nice!

>:^O
MarkO
9:48:01 AM
2/11/04

If only it was Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones. Can you imagine the campaign? "I refuse to answer the question about my past cocaine abuse until the President does."
Dunadan
9:50:52 AM
2/11/04

"What do you think about Dean going 3rd party? or Nader get into the mix......."

If the Dems were smart, they'd cap Dean in the ass if he decided to run third party. Nader is what costed the Dems the last election, alla Ross to Bush before.
laqtis
10:02:19 AM
2/11/04

PS speaking of smart, as in ass, that's what I was being dare, Brair. I know personlly how hard it is to beat up on that Idooit, Moronic, cocksmokin', sonofa#&%!$Bush, of a President. He just can't give us enough material! :)
laqtis
10:04:34 AM
2/11/04

Chaos theory
MarkO
10:05:35 AM
2/11/04

You can't blame Nader. You can blame the Dems & republicans for disenchantment. I know several former Republicans that went "green".
bearmagnet
10:08:00 AM
2/11/04

I agree with Bearmagnet on that. Gore lost the campaign by not taking it to Bush. Nader got the votes of many independents and people who would not otherwise have voted.
Dunadan
10:09:58 AM
2/11/04

Gore also lost the campaign by turning his back on his home state!
Treebeard
10:10:47 AM
2/11/04

So where will Dean land? Health & Human Services? Surgeon General?

And how about Clark? Secretary of Defense? I don't know if he's up to the challenge of Secretary of State or not.

As for Edwards, he's still fairly young. He could do 8 years as VP and still be young enough for another shot at the presidency.
Tilt
10:19:54 AM
2/11/04

I hope Dean, as Surgeon General, would reiterate Elders advice to young people: Do it by hand. (Then a big scream)

Sorry, I can't control my childish behavior.
Dunadan
10:23:00 AM
2/11/04

Unlikely
It is highly unusual to select a primary opponent as a running mate, or to reward primary opponents with major posts in an admin.

The Primaries usually get pretty nasty and burn bridges. Also the chosen one does not seem to want the ego's of those opposing views around every day.

Do not look for any of them to be on Kerry's ticket.
The North generally picks another region for the VP, either the South or the West, I would guess California to woo back a few from the Gubernator.
manuka
10:29:39 AM
2/11/04

Maybe he'll choose Roy Rogers. Get the sage cowboy vote. Southerners and Fast-Food-America would like that too.
JO
12:48:49 PM
2/11/04

Roast Beef for All!!!!
Maybe Kerry will chose Roy Rogers Manuka. He'd get the sage old cowboy vote. Southerners and Fast-Food America too.
JO
12:51:15 PM
2/11/04

Care to put that another way, JO?
Violin
12:53:42 PM
2/11/04

LMAO Dunadan



Don't try to picture that with Jocelyn Elders, tho'!!!!
Tilt
1:08:08 PM
2/11/04

The Democrats could get taken out by Nader or another 3rd party candidate.

I can see Nader or someone else skewering Kerry (or Edwards for that matter) over:
1) Voting to authorize the war,
2) Non-support for gay marriage
and other things that might estrange him from potential Green party voters.

Of course, someone on the right might decide to go third party over Bush's out of control spending or interventionist foreign policy, but I don't see anyone on the horizon. Is Robertson going to run?
pedxing
1:29:32 PM
2/11/04

Just for JO
Will Rogers died in 1935
Roy Rogers died in 1998

And I thought that it was Chicago where the dead voted, not the West where thay are elected.

Unlike Sen Lautenburg in NJ, these 2 really are dead not just nearly.

So the search for a vaible Veep must go on.
manuka
1:42:08 PM
2/11/04

As for the Veep selection....

Doesn't anyone believe that there had to be a REASON that Gephardt bailed right after the Iowa Primary?

It seems to me that had he stuck around, he would have won Missouri if none of the other primaries.

My guess is that he will be the choice for VP. He has party endorsement, he is a southerner.

As far as California goes, Bush can't be all that confident with Arnold in there. I think that there was a reason that the Kennedy Family backed him other then the fact that he is married to Maria Shriver.
redhawk
1:56:08 PM
2/11/04

Gephardt makes sense, my pont was that it will be a Southerner or a Westerner, Bush is from the South (now) and the Dems may just want to go West to counter the loss of Davis in Ca.

Ca. is also a huge State and has a ton of Electoral votes. I do not think Gephardt would be much of a draw in Calif.
manuka
2:01:22 PM
2/11/04

oops!

No. No.

Dead? Hell.....so was Reagan.
JO
2:52:51 PM
2/11/04

Missouri is not in the South. It's south of Massachusetts, but that's not saying much. It's not North. It's neither East nor West. It's just in limbo, I suppose.

Gephardt makes me veeeerry sleeeeeeeeepy. He's like a big turkey dinner in that respect.
Tilt
3:03:41 PM
2/11/04

Missouri is not in the South. It's south of Massachusetts, but that's not saying much. It's not North. It's neither East nor West. It's just in limbo, I suppose.

Gephardt makes me veeeerry sleeeeeeeeepy. He's like a big turkey dinner in that respect.
Tilt
3:03:42 PM
2/11/04

Tilt, you and JO do realize that just because we are old and senile does not mean you have to repeat everything you say, don't you?
Stickmanwalking
3:13:28 PM
2/11/04

Hey now Stick....I resemble that remark. I thought that it was because I was from someplace north of Kentucky. :)
JO
1:50:01 PM
2/12/04

Pedxing
6:15:16 PM
10/30/06

LOL! I think it's clear we're all the losers in the elections.
Nigal
6:33:48 PM
10/30/06

Follow up to cartoon (above) from 10/30/06




Scroll up for the original cartoon.
last edited: 11/09/06 1:55:45 PM
Pedxing
1:55:16 PM
11/09/06

thats GREAT!
Roam Around
1:56:53 PM
11/09/06

LOL...kinda like the dog that catches the car. I keep watching the libbies cheering and I can only remember the commercial where the guy with the home made glider jumps off the old bridge over the river. The People scream,"HE can fly." LOL the old man walking off says, "yeah but he can't swim."
XL400236
1:58:35 PM
11/09/06

Good cartoon.
techntrek
1:59:08 PM
11/09/06

pedxing
8:41:39 PM
11/30/06

Thus, the test for every leader.
laqtis
6:23:23 AM
12/01/06

Well so far Pelosi is 0 for what 5 ..she lost every one she wanted to appoint because they were corrupt as heck...but still in active liberal politics.
XL400236
7:06:40 AM
12/01/06

It's clear that the problem isn't so much the democrat party but the democrat party leadership.
Nigal
7:47:19 AM
12/01/06

which is elected by whom?
moonglo
7:48:39 AM
12/01/06

Well since there were no lawsuits for corruption...we can pretty much assume the Democrats got the chance to vote as often as they wanted.
XL400236
8:00:29 AM
12/01/06

Not unlike Republicans, Democrats' problem is their party.
LetsGoGetKrunkDawg
8:54:06 AM
12/01/06

Buffet-Gates in 2008.
salebored
12:07:47 PM
12/01/06

The problems a Democrat voter has . . .

If the voter votes against Obama because of his race . . . ...they must be racist. Then if follows, if they vote for Obama because of race they must be racist.

If they vote against Hillary because of her gender . . . ... they must be sexist. Then it follows, if they vote for Hillary because of her gender, they also must be sexist.

If they vote for either Obama or Hillary because they want to withdraw our troops from Iraq (surrender), and if this happens since the surrounding Islam nations have announced their commitment to destroying Israel and we would not be around to defend........they must be anti-semetic.

Decisions, decisions, it must be confusing to be a Democrap.
StoveStomper
2:08:45 PM
2/25/08

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