NASCAR Sucks!

“The next thing ya know they will say golf is not a sport.

Is backpacking a sport?”

“Golf is not a sport!”

“golf is a sport, because there is no mechanical mechanism involved

backpacking is an activity, because it is non-competitive”

“Backpacking is a lifestyle and a sport.

Golf is a sport, it's just not terribly athletic, like say basketball is.”

“I think sport is defined as competive recreation involving physical exertion.”

“Golf is a sport!”

“i would have to concede that by a strict definition of the word "sport", that racing is a sport. however, race-car drivers are not athletes.”

“and theyre defineitely not sexy!”

“Golf is glorified lawn darts. If you want to call it a sport, OK.
Nascar = turn left.”

“Golf is a sport but golfers are not athletes. Just look at our boy John Daly for a reference.”

“im betting the last 18 dun played, he scored a 200. am i right, poo-pooer?”

“what about offensive linemen?”

“I think if you carry your clubs around 18 holes, golf is a sport, LOL. Backpacking lacks the competitive angle, even though there are people out there who would turn everything into some sort of competition (if they could).



'continue left turn'.... LMAO”

“I like to watch paint dry.”

“"there are people out there who would turn everything into some sort of competition"

flyin brian comes to mind”

“speakin of, i know fb is the only one to get the triple crown in one season, does anyone have the number of persons with a lifetime triple crown?”

“A NASCAR fan (not appropriate for the workplace. you need speakers for this. It's an MP3.”

“NASCAR drivers burn more calories per hour than racketball players do and they "play" their game much longer. It's more difficult than you think to drive a car around an oval at speeds of up to 180mph. The fear, adreneline, and skill used during a single race account for the high number of calories burned. However, I agree with Scott that NASCAR drivers are not athletes. They had one of those pro sport challenges a few years ago where pros from basketball, football, baseball, and other popular sports competed in a triatholon type event. The NASCAR guys were slow and out of shape, but they endured as well as any of the others proving that their sport required endurance.

sport (spôrt, sprt) n.

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
A particular form of this activity.
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
An active pastime; recreation

That's the definition of sport. I think NASCAR would qualify. How much exertion is required for golf? To me golf is way more boring that a race.”

“NASCAR drivers burn more calories per hour than racketball players do

Where do you get this information?”

“Phaedrus, I know you just love to discount everyone's arguments but your own and even when people go out of their way to find facts for you, you still deny the facts. So I'm not even going to bother. If you want to know that badly do the research yourself. Not all facts come from the internet on published online journals which are easily accesible to you. I learned that tidbit of information from watching an actual race so I have no source for you. However, if you are capable of doing some math why don't you calculate how many calories are burned per hour when someone sits in 140F for 8 hours-much like a sauna.

According to this website http://www.mphmotorsports.com/factstrivia.htm a driver can lose 5-10lbs a race. A lot of it is probably water weight, but your body will still burn calories when under enormous stress, pressure, and heat.”

“when most ppl think of sports, they think of the human machine doing the work, as opposed to a mechanical machine doing the work. TECHNICALLY, its a sport, but its not a sport in the classical sense, as golf is not either, for the club is a mechanical advantage. but then along those lines of thinking, tennis is not a sport. the difference being, in golf you are striking a static object, whereas in tennis there is a moving ball you have to run to. but does that make a difference? i lean towards no, and just say they are both sports, tennis being the more athletic of the two. so what is the difference between the mechanical advantage of a golf club and the mechanical advantage of an automobile? it is simple. in golf, you are supplying the power that drives the club to hit the ball. in essence, you are part of the machine. in racing, you are not providing the power, only guiding it. and for that reason, racing is not a sport in the classical sense, but technically it is, despite the disproportionate amount of beer bellies in the stands (its a joke, people, lighten up)”

“i think the fact that the competitor sits thru the entire thing should dis-qualify it as a sport

once we have car/man cyborgs, then you can call it a sport, in the classic and technical sense.”

“Phaedrus, you scalliwag, you! That sound-byte was funny as heck.
I'm gonna laugh the rest of the day.
What did they call that race in Nigeria????”

“Standing at the infield fence at Talledega, feeling the concussion hitting you from cars travelling at 200 mph, three wide and 13 deep is what NASCAR is all about. When they pass, the vacume takes your breath away.

Of course, the boat load of beer and the "track chicks" don't hurt either.”

“I watched Nascar back when Fireball Roberts was king of the hill. And the best era was when we had Buddy Baker, The Allisons, Cale Yarborough, David Pearson, The Woods brothers and Richard Petty.

It was a lot moere enjoyable and competative then. With all the hype, marketing, "rules" (which seem to favor some more then others.

Today I watch the starts, and the last 50 miles, the rest is boring as a rule unless it's a short track.

Same old story, another sport being changed and "sophisticated", for "the enjoyment of the fans". In realiity being changed to bring more money into the pockets of NASCAR.

ANd if anyone is getting upset by "sterotyping" and cannot recognize humor (tasteless maybe, but humor nevertheless) then perhaps there is some fire behind the smoke.”

“"nascar, not nascoon"

thats pretty friggin funny”

“I think some of these people would rather argue than #&%!$.”

“I'd rather be rally-racing!”

“and who exactly are "these people" (they know who they are)?”

“"I really haven't been a NASCAR fan since Dale hit the wall 3 yrs ago and prior to that I wouldn't say I was a big NASCAR fan even though I drove a Monte for awhile."

Yea, hasn't been the same without Dale out there. The racing that I REALLY like are those crzay Euros who race the dirt roads. Phucking kooks! The only thing kookier are the fans who stand right on the curves and trust these guys NOT to mow them down. My wife would be good as one of the navigation guys...she's always telling me how to drive!”

“I didn't see it but is it true that Dubya didn't realize the mic was on and called Dale Earnhardt a stupid hillbilly?”

“They only go for the crashes and the beer.”

“"NASCAR drivers burn more calories per hour than racketball players do"

That's true Phaed. I heard the same thing. Also, 9 out of 10 NASCAR fans have three or more teeth.”

“Phaedrus, I know you just love to discount everyone's arguments but your own and even when people go out of their way to find facts for you, you still deny the facts.

Gosh, Dub, I really just wanted to know where you got your information. You're pretty testy for such a young guy. The reason I asked is because it seems to be obviously counter-intuitive that someone driving (whatever the conditions in the car) would burn more calories per hour than someone involved in a rigorous competitive physical activity like raquetball.

I thought maybe someone had lied to you, but since you won't tell me who, I guess you're right.

Don't let me get in the way of your wild unsubstantiated claims.”

“That's true Phaed. I heard the same thing. Also, 9 out of 10 NASCAR fans have three or more teeth."
Violin
03:21:18 PM
02/16/04

Violin, if you can't back up these claims with some evidence, I'm going to have to disbelieve you, too.”

“Yeh but those teeth are green!”

“Technically, I think it's called 'drafting' not 'sucking'.”

“i can see someone working up a sweat in those cars. full body-suit and helmet, and driving at 200mph with no power steering would make anybody sweat buckets”

“Gosh, Dub, I really just wanted to know where you got your information. You're pretty testy for such a young guy. The reason I asked is because it seems to be obviously counter-intuitive that someone driving (whatever the conditions in the car) would burn more calories per hour than someone involved in a rigorous competitive physical activity like raquetball.

I thought maybe someone had lied to you, but since you won't tell me who, I guess you're right.

Don't let me get in the way of your wild unsubstantiated claims."
Phaedrus

If you were just curious then I'm sorry about my response. I thought you were trying to start an argument or debate like you do on some of the political threads and I didn't feel like getting into one. The source of my information came from an announcer during a hot race. He said they burned 400-500 calories an hour which was comparable to racketball.

But think about it...140F temperatures...constant adreneline. Fighting the steering wheel (no power steering). Constant stress from driving at 180mph (trying not to die, fear = fast heartbeat). Intense gravitational forces (2-5g's--which turns holding your head straight into a challenge) all add up to a workout. These guys aren't exactly athletes, but it does take some skill and guts to do what they do.”

“to play devils advocate...........

"The source of my information came from an announcer during a hot race"

your source is biased”

“Yeah, probably was biased. He was announcing the race and I took what he said as facts just as I do when sports announcers for football and baseball state little facts. However, to me it seemed believeable.”

“I wouldnt disagree with the assertion that a racecar driver burns more calories than a racquetball player. i just wouldnt quote a racetrack announcer as my reliable source”

“Hey! It's Fatback! He looks better when he's got a big dip in his lip. He's a good crew chief!

Hey Phaed, is there ANYTHING you can't go off on a nut about?

"Boy the sky sure is blue today."

"Actually it is more azure than blue. I have all the documentation to back up my POV at home. I'll fax you copies and await your accolades of my being right within the hour."

Sheeshuz! You just HAVE to be right about EVERYTHING don’t ya?”

“What the puck is this crap doing under 'General'?

Chatter, buttholes, chatter.

What a bunch of intolerate stereotyping ignorant 'progressives' you show yourselves to be.”

“nigal started this thread. blame him.”

“Stove Stomper has a chattering butthole? I gotta see this! Sorry about that StoveStomper. I'm sure the title "NASCAR Sucks" wasn't enough of an indication as to what the thread was about. Maybe Matt could offer more pictures for thread titles if the specific title is too tough to figure out for you.

Hope yer day gets better buddy. 8)”

“thats right. completely undermine matts trying to help us by starting threads under inappropriate categories all willy-nilly”

“'Chattering Butthole' would be a great name for a band.”